Custom Quantization Matrix Editor 1.0 - Page 2

LigH · 4th April 2004, 10:47

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Originally posted by incredible
If exporting to TmpgEnc.ini file the values will be like "reverse" .... don't know how to describe it in german.

Heck... mathematicians call that "transposed" (top right <=> bottom left). Indeed, that's a bug I'll have to fix!

And I saw on one PC that I'm not able to export to text (start CQME, open a matrix file, export, select "Text (CSV)"... no dialog appears, although it should "onClick"). Very strange. But the only W2K Domain Controller with user login I tested so far.

Inc · 4th April 2004, 12:45

Quote:

Originally posted by LigH
And I saw on one PC that I'm not able to export to text (start CQME, open a matrix file, export, select "Text (CSV)"... no dialog appears, although it should "onClick"). Very strange. But the only W2K Domain Controller with user login I tested so far.

If you export to "text" ... its the case that you have to change just a letter or so in the Name and the "ok" button then appears.
(In case if you refer to that issue).

I just PNed you about the Alternate (F2) Diagram and how it interprets the manual settet values ....

LigH · 4th April 2004, 13:49

Oh, I shall know my own program... I thought the export file dialog appears when I click onto the radiobox, but it appears when I click on the OK button. So I will have to check the logic, if I shall enable the OK button when I click on the radiobox and the matrix name is not empty...

And yes, indeed, also the scan order is read transposed, stupid me.

bill_baroud · 4th April 2004, 20:23

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Originally posted by LigH
Oh yeah, a software developer, network and database administrator, and media specialist - and still unemployed; this is only possible in Germany. How many years did they tell us that so many IT specialists are missing - and now so many IT specialists are missing available jobs.

No no, not only in Germany ... same here (France)

btw, really nice tool.

SoonUDie · 5th April 2004, 07:09

Good program, it's very helpful.

I may have a bug though - it seems that the diagrams for the scanning process don't math the scanning order.

The image goes like this
1 2 6
3 5
4

etc.

While the program seems to create the "scan order" bars by reading like this:
1 3 4
2 5
6

LigH · 5th April 2004, 13:15

That is just the effect what "transposed" means: x <=> y, mirrored at the main diagonal...
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http://www.ligh.de/software/CQME_1.0a.zip contains most fixes, and the enhanced documentation.

SoonUDie · 5th April 2004, 13:23

Yes, but you talked about that in relation to exporting / importing something.

When I hit F2 and get the scan graph, it looks like the values have been scanned incorrectly. Am I right, or are they supposed to be scanned transposed?

Inc · 5th April 2004, 13:28

@SoonUdie

Yep, thats exactly the point I mailed to LigH via PN yesterday, .... and what he explained above by "transposed" x <=> y. This should be fixed now if I understand LigH right.

LigH ...., did you also fixed the export to TmpgEnc.ini as there the ordering seemed to be "transposed" but not when doing just exporting to text file.

LigH · 5th April 2004, 13:58

Look into the documentation, "History": I fixed transposed matrixes in the TMPGEnc.ini export, and in the Scan order window.

Inc · 5th April 2004, 14:10

At work Im working on a MAC which can't open the .chm file, ... thats why I should wait until this evening when I get home to my PC.

bond · 5th April 2004, 14:22

ligh, did you try to set nerodigital matrices?

LigH · 5th April 2004, 14:24

Fixed:

TMPGEnc.ini output wrote a transposed matrix (x <=> y)
Scan order used transposed matrix indices, too
Enabled OK button for "Text (CSV)" export immediately, when the matrix name already was not empty

Added:

Provided more file type masks in some dialogs
Enhanced the documentation

Changed:

Increased the saturation of the bar colors in the scan order window

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Nero Digital is too complicated currently: I would have to copy a whole preset branch inside an XML file, just to create new matrices.

Morpheus_xx · 8th April 2004, 20:01

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Originally posted by LigH
Nero Digital is too complicated currently: I would have to copy a whole preset branch inside an XML file, just to create new matrices. [/B]

Maybe you could only overwrite the matrix-value in one profile. You could let the user select it before writing...

Neo Neko · 8th April 2004, 23:07

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Originally posted by Leak
Looking at the binary, I'd say it's Delphi - there goes the portability.

Not really. I have a copy of Kylix sitting on my shelves right here. Which is IIRC the linux component of delphi. Mind you not everything is portable from delphi to kylix. Like 3rd party or software specific modules. But the base interface design and component code is. When you talk cross platform code C/C++ is king. But Pascal and Obective Pascal should not be counted out.

Quote:

Originally posted by Leak
Still can't figure out why creating a resizeable layout shouldn't be possible in Delphi, but then again I've never used it...

I never created anything usefull in delphi. But I did create resizable layouts. So on a basic level I can't understand it either. The only thing I can figure is that the matrix visualisation module may not have good support for it. Or that the entry boxes for the matrix would get hard to read and scrunched if re-aranged and re-sized.

lordadmira · 13th April 2004, 00:36

Real mathematicians use Fortran!

lordadmira · 13th April 2004, 00:38

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TorgoGuy · 13th April 2004, 02:42

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Originally posted by Leak
Still can't figure out why creating a resizeable layout shouldn't be possible in Delphi, but then again I've never used it...

Resizable layouts are easily doable in Delphi. In fact, if you just want everything to scale you can have it happen automatically with some pretty standard free controls (i.e., not a single line of code required). If you only want to certain area to scale then you'll have to write a bit of code which sometime can require a bit of "futzing."

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Also, am I the only one that finds the flickering when you adjust one of the spin controls annoying? Double-buffering the diagrams would be nice...

Also easy to fix (a few lines of code). If LigH doesn't know how to fix it, he can PM me and I'll help him out.

LigH · 13th April 2004, 13:34

"Service Temporarily Unavailable":

I don't have manual access to my lend server. So please wait for my provider to fix it...
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"Double buffering":

I'm working on it. Probably I'll have to render the metafile offscreen, and draw the created bitmap.
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"Resizing the window layout":

I still don't know how it shall be done (not just technically, this would be at least possible - but most important: which controls and which control dimensions shall resize, which shall not; are there minimum sizes for some control dimensions; which shall keep their proportions relatively to which others...). I made all the controls so fixed, it would take much time to rewrite everything, especially if you would insist in resizing the bar graph panels.

lordadmira · 13th April 2004, 18:39

It crashed as soon as I ran it.

Zurgriffsverletzung bei Adresse BFF7B9A6 in Modul 'KERNEL32.DLL'. Schreiben von Adresse 0000000.

Exception EReadError in Modul CQME.EXe bei 00001910B. Fehler beim Lesen von ZigZagImage.Picture.Data: Zurgriffsverletzung bei Adresse 0042264A in Modul CQME.EXE blah blah blah....

I have 98SE.

LigH · 14th April 2004, 00:09

Oops - never ran it under Win98; I hope it is not related to using UPX as EXE packer. I'll try and see...

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SoonUDie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 147	Good program, it's very helpful. I may have a bug though - it seems that the diagrams for the scanning process don't math the scanning order. The image goes like this 1 2 6 3 5 4 etc. While the program seems to create the "scan order" bars by reading like this: 1 3 4 2 5 6 __________________ Stuff was here at some point.

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SoonUDie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 147	Yes, but you talked about that in relation to exporting / importing something. When I hit F2 and get the scan graph, it looks like the values have been scanned incorrectly. Am I right, or are they supposed to be scanned transposed? __________________ Stuff was here at some point.

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,784	Fixed: TMPGEnc.ini output wrote a transposed matrix (x <=> y) Scan order used transposed matrix indices, too Enabled OK button for "Text (CSV)" export immediately, when the matrix name already was not empty Added: Provided more file type masks in some dialogs Enhanced the documentation Changed: Increased the saturation of the bar colors in the scan order window __ Nero Digital is too complicated currently: I would have to copy a whole preset branch inside an XML file, just to create new matrices.

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lordadmira Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Zinzinnati Posts: 294	Real mathematicians use Fortran! __________________ Anata wa baka da! REPENT!

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,784	Oh, I shall know my own program... I thought the export file dialog appears when I click onto the radiobox, but it appears when I click on the OK button. So I will have to check the logic, if I shall enable the OK button when I click on the radiobox and the matrix name is not empty... And yes, indeed, also the scan order is read transposed, stupid me.

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,784	That is just the effect what "transposed" means: x <=> y, mirrored at the main diagonal... __ http://www.ligh.de/software/CQME_1.0a.zip contains most fixes, and the enhanced documentation.

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Inc Squeeze it! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 472	@SoonUdie Yep, thats exactly the point I mailed to LigH via PN yesterday, .... and what he explained above by "transposed" x <=> y. This should be fixed now if I understand LigH right. LigH ...., did you also fixed the export to TmpgEnc.ini as there the ordering seemed to be "transposed" but not when doing just exporting to text file.

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,784	Look into the documentation, "History": I fixed transposed matrixes in the TMPGEnc.ini export, and in the Scan order window.

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Inc Squeeze it! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 472	At work Im working on a MAC which can't open the .chm file, ... thats why I should wait until this evening when I get home to my PC.

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lordadmira Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Zinzinnati Posts: 294	Ligh: Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.ligh.de Port 80 __________________ Anata wa baka da! REPENT!

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,784	"Service Temporarily Unavailable": I don't have manual access to my lend server. So please wait for my provider to fix it... __ "Double buffering": I'm working on it. Probably I'll have to render the metafile offscreen, and draw the created bitmap. __ "Resizing the window layout": I still don't know how it shall be done (not just technically, this would be at least possible - but most important: which controls and which control dimensions shall resize, which shall not; are there minimum sizes for some control dimensions; which shall keep their proportions relatively to which others...). I made all the controls so fixed, it would take much time to rewrite everything, especially if you would insist in resizing the bar graph panels. Last edited by LigH; 13th April 2004 at 13:40.

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lordadmira Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Zinzinnati Posts: 294	It crashed as soon as I ran it. Zurgriffsverletzung bei Adresse BFF7B9A6 in Modul 'KERNEL32.DLL'. Schreiben von Adresse 0000000. Exception EReadError in Modul CQME.EXe bei 00001910B. Fehler beim Lesen von ZigZagImage.Picture.Data: Zurgriffsverletzung bei Adresse 0042264A in Modul CQME.EXE blah blah blah.... I have 98SE. __________________ Anata wa baka da! REPENT! Last edited by lordadmira; 13th April 2004 at 18:41.

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,784	Oops - never ran it under Win98; I hope it is not related to using UPX as EXE packer. I'll try and see...