madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 117

yesgrey · 5th April 2010, 00:34

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Originally Posted by Razoola

I'm simply trying MPC-HC with its own internal encoders.

Disable mpc-hc internal decoders, and try with ffdshow checking only YV12 in its output tab.
Also, are you using the latest Haali splitter? If yes, try disabling its workaround for bypassing the microsoft avc decoder.

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 07:59

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Originally Posted by yesgrey

Disable mpc-hc internal decoders, and try with ffdshow checking only YV12 in its output tab.
Also, are you using the latest Haali splitter? If yes, try disabling its workaround for bypassing the microsoft avc decoder.

Tried, I get the same freeze still. What I actually get is reclock, haali and ffdshow video and audio icons in the taskbar and then freeze.

Im using the 27.03.10 build of haali but im not sure what you mean by 'disabling its workaround for bypassing the microsoft avc decoder'. If you mean disabling the gabest's splitter, I did that.

Raz

namaiki · 5th April 2010, 08:10

Razoola: Try install some 18x forceware drivers.

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 10:41

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Originally Posted by namaiki

Razoola: Try install some 18x forceware drivers.

Yes it works fine with 186.18. The problem is that driver does not support my gt240, even modding the driver inf I cannot get the gt240 working.

The brings it full circle back to a nvidia driver situation amd me on 196.21.

namaiki · 5th April 2010, 10:44

Maybe you can try 191.05 or 191.07 old drivers.

yesgrey · 5th April 2010, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Razoola

Im using the 27.03.10 build of haali but im not sure what you mean by 'disabling its workaround for bypassing the microsoft avc decoder'. If you mean disabling the gabest's splitter, I did that.

Haali splitter creates a custom FourCC as a workaround. I don't remember the exact name of it, and I can't tell you because I don't have that version installed. I'm still using the 2009-01-10 build because it's the last that works with WVC1 interlaced files.
You can also try to install that version of Haali...

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 11:38

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Originally Posted by namaiki

Maybe you can try 191.05 or 191.07 old drivers.

195.62 is the first driver to correctly support the gt240. It dosent work with that driver.

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesgrey

Haali splitter creates a custom FourCC as a workaround. I don't remember the exact name of it, and I can't tell you because I don't have that version installed. I'm still using the 2009-01-10 build because it's the last that works with WVC1 interlaced files.
You can also try to install that version of Haali...

I have tried that version now. Still get the problem.

namaiki · 5th April 2010, 11:41

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Originally Posted by Razoola

195.62 is the first driver to correctly support the gt240. It dosent work with that driver.

As far as I can tell, those two drivers support your graphics card.

Quote:

Supported products
GeForce 200 series:
GTX 295, G210, GTX 275, GTX 280, GTX 285, GTS 240, GTX 260, GTS 250, GT 220
and more..

Did you try the driver?

edit: hmm.. unless you meant it installs but doesn't correctly work.

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 11:51

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Originally Posted by namaiki

As far as I can tell, those two drivers support your graphics card.

Did you try the driver?

edit: hmm.. unless you meant it installs but doesn't correctly work.

Neither support the gt 240, only the 240gts which is a different card. I'll edit the ini and give the 191.07 a try now though.

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 13:16

Ok, I can get my GT240 with my GTX295 plus madVR working with the 191.07 drivers. It did take a little inf mod though to add the GT240 to the driver list. The next official driver release of 195.62 (which is the first driver to support the GT240) I cannot get working at all with madVR.

So in my case the driver issue that breaks madVR happens between these two WHQL driver releases.

Whats also nice is the fact that I had a minor glitch issue over nvidia HDMI which caused the bottom 10th of the screen to flash black few seconds after changing resolution etc. That seems to have fixed itsself with these older drivers. I think I'll be keeping these installed for some time.

namaiki · 5th April 2010, 13:45

ooh brilliant

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 14:36

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Originally Posted by namaiki

ooh brilliant

Yup, I'm really happy. I just wish I knew how yesgrey is getting 196.21 to work. Would also be nice if MPC-HC's disable desktop composition (aero) option worked with madVR (or haali for that matter).

namaiki · 5th April 2010, 14:44

Even more for me, since yesgrey has a GeForce 8600GT and I have a 9600M GT, which are very similar in specifications as far as I can tell.

My setup:
9600M GT
Windows 7 64-bit
Media Player Classic Homecinema 32-bit svn1281
Haali Media Splitter
Reclock (latest) - WASAPI
ffdshow audio
ffdshow video or CoreAVC 2.0 (CUDA video acceleration disabled)
VSFilter, sometimes
MadVR v11 (I think v9 will run on the newer forceware versions, but it lacks the queue and I get stuttery/jumpy video playback)

yesgrey, could you post up your setup? :3

yesgrey · 5th April 2010, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Razoola

Yup, I'm really happy. I just wish I knew how yesgrey is getting 196.21 to work.

Sorry, but I don't know what's happening... I'm just glad that it works for me. I think I will not rush up to upgrade my GPU...

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Originally Posted by namaiki

yesgrey, could you post up your setup?

My setup:
8600 GT - drivers 197.13 (I update always, so all previous drivers worked too)
Windows XP x64 SP2
Media Player Classic Homecinema 32-bit 1.3.1771.0
Haali Media Splitter 2009-01-10
Reclock 1.8.6.7 - Kernel Streaming
ffdshow 3336 or madFlac audio
ffdshow 3336 video or CoreAVC 2.0 (CUDA video acceleration disabled)
MadVR v11 using 3DLUT

Now I'm running XP x64 because my W7 x64 RC1 has expired and I preferred not to buy W7 yet. With W7 it worked ok too. I used 195.62 drivers.
I only had a small problem with W7, which was one of the reasons to go back to XP. When using my projector I got some tearing. It was a strange thing, because the exact same timings give me a perfect image with XP...

namaiki · 5th April 2010, 17:55

mm I get tearing on MadVR when I have Aero disabled. I didn't notice until I watched some random scenery pans.

damn, I thought you were going to have some exotic setup. XD

edit: Windows XP 64-bit is a bit wild though. d;

yesgrey · 5th April 2010, 18:19

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Originally Posted by namaiki

mm I get tearing on MadVR when I have Aero disabled. I didn't notice until I watched some random scenery pans.

I got tearing only when using my projector (1360x768@48Hz), with or without aero did not matter. Though, when I used my CRT monitor (1280x960@72) I got no tearing, no matter if aero was enabled or not, hence my conclusion that it would've been due to the timings used...

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Originally Posted by namaiki

damn, I thought you were going to have some exotic setup. XD
edit: Windows XP 64-bit is a bit wild though. d;

It's great! Previously I used XP SP3 32, but after working with W7 x64 I did not want to return to 32bit, I wanted to use all my 4GB of RAM, and I don't regret the decision. As a bonus, I keep my favorite Windows GUI (Windows 2000).

Grmpf · 5th April 2010, 18:32

I still have the 23.976+24.000hz tearing problem with madVR (i am not the only one, there were others here in this thread and on other boards aswell) - so is there a chance for a fixed madVR version anytime soon ? Yes i know madshi has a "real" live outside of ths board, i just want to know wether he already knows what causes the problem and how to fix it inside madVR, so that i know the next version may/will fix it.

Its basicly the only thing that holds me back from fulltime using madVR (and boy i want to use it), i can't easily setup different renderers for different hz (50hz + 59.94hz work perfect with madVR) in zoomplayer, so i am stuck without madVR - i can't use 48/72hz as a workaround either, my projector does only support 24/50/60hz.

If i can be of any help (testing versions, what ever) - please just contact me.

System: CPU:Q9550 + ATi 4770 (Win XP SP3/Zoomplayer/CoreAVC/ffdshow) -> JVC DLA HD100/RS2

Razoola · 5th April 2010, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesgrey

Now I'm running XP x64 because my W7 x64 RC1 has expired and I preferred not to buy W7 yet. With W7 it worked ok too. I used 195.62 drivers.
I only had a small problem with W7, which was one of the reasons to go back to XP. When using my projector I got some tearing. It was a strange thing, because the exact same timings give me a perfect image with XP...

That could be it then as you were not using the final W7 x64 which I take namaiki is and I can confirm I am also (x64 ultimate).

yesgrey · 5th April 2010, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Razoola

That could be it then as you were not using the final W7 x64 which I take namaiki is and I can confirm I am also (x64 ultimate).

When I find some free time I will give it a try to see what happens...

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	Even more for me, since yesgrey has a GeForce 8600GT and I have a 9600M GT, which are very similar in specifications as far as I can tell. My setup: 9600M GT Windows 7 64-bit Media Player Classic Homecinema 32-bit svn1281 Haali Media Splitter Reclock (latest) - WASAPI ffdshow audio ffdshow video or CoreAVC 2.0 (CUDA video acceleration disabled) VSFilter, sometimes MadVR v11 (I think v9 will run on the newer forceware versions, but it lacks the queue and I get stuttery/jumpy video playback) yesgrey, could you post up your setup? :3 Last edited by namaiki; 5th April 2010 at 17:28.

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	mm I get tearing on MadVR when I have Aero disabled. I didn't notice until I watched some random scenery pans. damn, I thought you were going to have some exotic setup. XD edit: Windows XP 64-bit is a bit wild though. d; Last edited by namaiki; 5th April 2010 at 18:01.

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	Razoola: Try install some 18x forceware drivers.

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	Maybe you can try 191.05 or 191.07 old drivers.

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Razoola Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 454	Ok, I can get my GT240 with my GTX295 plus madVR working with the 191.07 drivers. It did take a little inf mod though to add the GT240 to the driver list. The next official driver release of 195.62 (which is the first driver to support the GT240) I cannot get working at all with madVR. So in my case the driver issue that breaks madVR happens between these two WHQL driver releases. Whats also nice is the fact that I had a minor glitch issue over nvidia HDMI which caused the bottom 10th of the screen to flash black few seconds after changing resolution etc. That seems to have fixed itsself with these older drivers. I think I'll be keeping these installed for some time.

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	ooh brilliant

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Grmpf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 37	I still have the 23.976+24.000hz tearing problem with madVR (i am not the only one, there were others here in this thread and on other boards aswell) - so is there a chance for a fixed madVR version anytime soon ? Yes i know madshi has a "real" live outside of ths board, i just want to know wether he already knows what causes the problem and how to fix it inside madVR, so that i know the next version may/will fix it. Its basicly the only thing that holds me back from fulltime using madVR (and boy i want to use it), i can't easily setup different renderers for different hz (50hz + 59.94hz work perfect with madVR) in zoomplayer, so i am stuck without madVR - i can't use 48/72hz as a workaround either, my projector does only support 24/50/60hz. If i can be of any help (testing versions, what ever) - please just contact me. System: CPU:Q9550 + ATi 4770 (Win XP SP3/Zoomplayer/CoreAVC/ffdshow) -> JVC DLA HD100/RS2