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Old 26th February 2013, 22:12   #17801  |  Link
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Just do a clean install (you can select that option after you started the driver setup) of the NV driver anyway. If you have problems when you just switched the card, there´s not much else that can go wrong, especially not if you´re still on NV.
did clean install with new drivers,going to check it out now. (madvr osd still reports refresh rates that are a bit unstable,its scary)


edit:it seems it works like a charm,reclock reports 72hz(DDR),but madvr goes from 68 to 76hz on 72hz display(lol) (highest noted was about 96hz just at start of playback)

edit2:it works like a charm for some time,around a minute or so,then drops 60 to 70 frames,and the cycle repeats. decoder queue can go as high as 26-26/12 (how is that even possible)

starting the playback after reinstalling LAV filters makes the screen black,and only the audio plays,it shows itself after about 10 seconds. (or in most cases,doesnt show at all)
gpu-z shows no gpu load,or video engine load,but it gets to its highest memory and gpu clock for first ~10 seconds of playback,then goes to normal 2d mode values.

trying to seek while video is blacked out makes mpc-hc freeze.

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Old 26th February 2013, 22:37   #17802  |  Link
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Old 26th February 2013, 22:47   #17803  |  Link
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All don't flush for windowed flush settings reduced the framedrops with frc for me but still 0.5-1 drop per minute.

andybkma: I edited it yet again, this time I tested it with zoomplayer, forgot sometimes buttons need original mappings. Also changed so that it looks for TMainForm class instead of windows titled 'Zoom Player'. Seems like a generic class but could't find any other programs using it by googling.
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Old 26th February 2013, 23:03   #17804  |  Link
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With the latest changes in MPC-BE a commit between 2028 and 2050 I've had MadVR displaying a green screen when progressing to the next file.
It has something to do with specifying ffdshow raw and xyvsfilter together in a specific order in the the external filters section in BE.

(From top to bottom) vsfilter->ffdsshow->MadvR gives a green screen if no flushing is done, I must set the default options flush and flush & sleep to have the video show when starting playback of the next file.
Switching to ffdshow->vsfilter->MadVR allows me to specify no flushing, I'm not sure if this is something that needs to be improved upon or it's just the way it is now.

It's worked previously in this order without flushing, so I'll leave it in your hands Madshi to decide if it's an issue.

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Old 27th February 2013, 01:47   #17805  |  Link
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Is there a simple source for push notification of new madVR releases?

I looked quickly on twitter, and zoomplayer seems to post when a new version is out. But they also post lots of other stuf...
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Old 27th February 2013, 03:08   #17806  |  Link
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andybkma: I edited it yet again,
Excellent, thank you kindly :-)
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Old 27th February 2013, 04:31   #17807  |  Link
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Is there a simple source for push notification of new madVR releases?
Nope, gotta keep an eye on the forum or your choice of website, an alert me if first post to subscribed topic is updated feature would be nice but oh well.
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Old 27th February 2013, 05:59   #17808  |  Link
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Now if there was a way to interpolate without glossing up the video that might be more impressive.
That's my point(and my ulterior motive) because I know that most FI really look fugly with nasty aliasing around fast movements, but I really wish madshi could spend 10 mins of his precious time checking out the FI of Sammy ES6x00 TV's in "crisp" mode because it looks dead smooth(no hiccup), doesn't artifact whatsoever and doesn't look like a soap opera either...this would be a strong asset to mVR, and madshi's unstoppable anyway.....a bit of mathematics magic and this ghost story would turn into some most impressive buttersmoothness

lesnumeriques.com recently tried a TOTL Philips TV and claimed that its FI was a complete joke compared to Sammy's, which is hard to deny IME as well. They also confirmed that Sony's Motionflow wasn't nearly as good as Sammy's either(they're not Sammy shills BTW ^^).

Surely it took decades to their R&D team to come up with this, but they didn't have madshi in their team

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Be thankful that you can't hear over 15kHz then!
True dat! I completely forgot that this flat screen CRT liked to randomly make that utterly annoying high pitched whine.......oh well, I'm gonna follow madshi's advice and go demo some plasma's tomorrow

Panasonic's new ST60's should be released within a few months and would supposedly fix the posterizing issue, allowing 24576 steps of gradation instead of the current 12288 on the ST50's.

I read that Sammy's plasma's suffer from a loud buzzing noise on bright pictures, but I can get a 60" LG for 750€....this requires a demo, as I'm willing to make compromises until OLED makes it mainstream =)

And the bigger the screen, the more impressive Jinc3AR looks IME.

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Old 27th February 2013, 06:45   #17809  |  Link
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Hm, looks promising.
What do you think a smaller vga: nvidia 640m or 645m ? (and a smaller CPU) So in this case the heating won't be such a problem ...

Thanks!
To be honest, I have no idea. Sorry.

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Well I wasn't overclocking but my HD4000 definitely can't handle Jinc3. Maybe it was just for interlaced content, I can't remember.
To be clear, I need no overclock for resizing 720p to 1080p. I just tried that again last night. I believe I had AR turned on too. So in my case, HD4000 can handle Jinc3 quite well. The overclocking I talked about is when I tried to go 2560x1600.
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Old 27th February 2013, 09:09   #17810  |  Link
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Hi madshi,

I have a problem that Blight suggested I run by you. I have a test clip (link below) that when played with Overlay enabled on my system (NVIDIA GTX 660Ti, 314.07 drivers, Win 7 64bit), shows no video. The video plays in Zoom Player, but there is no actual picture - that is, the video window is black. If I disable Overlay mode, the video shows fine.

On Blight's system (NVIDIA GT 520, not sure what drivers he has), Overlay shows the picture fine. We both have the exact same filter chain, so literally the only difference is the video hardware and probably the driver version. Blight said to tell you that the driver may be lying about supporting that colorspace and that you might be able to convert it.

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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/105555957/Bug%20%23446.avi (2.20MB)

This is with madVR v0.86.1 - Zoom Player 8.6 Beta 28.

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Old 27th February 2013, 09:43   #17811  |  Link
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To be clear, I need no overclock for resizing 720p to 1080p. I just tried that again last night. I believe I had AR turned on too. So in my case, HD4000 can handle Jinc3 quite well. The overclocking I talked about is when I tried to go 2560x1600.
What about 576i to 1080p? That's probably the most challenging. Also, there are different "levels" of HD4000 aren't there?
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Old 27th February 2013, 09:50   #17812  |  Link
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What about 576i to 1080p? That's probably the most challenging. Also, there are different "levels" of HD4000 aren't there?
HD4000 is already the level, the slower variant is HD2500.

For the record, the most challenging is 1440x1080i60, which needs deinterlacing and then resizing to 1920x1080.
Some countries seem to use this (or the 50fps variant in PAL areas) for DVB transmission.
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Old 27th February 2013, 10:49   #17813  |  Link
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For the record, the most challenging is 1440x1080i60, which needs deinterlacing and then resizing to 1920x1080.
Yep, the only way that works on my end (using a GTS 250) is with CUVID and chroma and image upscaling set to bilinear inside madVR. Even then I get a few frame drops every 20 seconds or so.
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Old 27th February 2013, 10:52   #17814  |  Link
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HD4000 is already the level, the slower variant is HD2500.

For the record, the most challenging is 1440x1080i60, which needs deinterlacing and then resizing to 1920x1080.
Some countries seem to use this (or the 50fps variant in PAL areas) for DVB transmission.
I know in the UK the BBC use to use this, but it has since changed to be full 1920, 1080.
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Old 27th February 2013, 12:17   #17815  |  Link
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HD4000 is already the level, the slower variant is HD2500.
There are different maximum clock speeds though. My i5-3320M can do 1.2 GHz, the i5-3340M can do 1.25 GHz, for example. Not much in it though.

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For the record, the most challenging is 1440x1080i60, which needs deinterlacing and then resizing to 1920x1080.
I see. I have some 1440x1080i/25 recordings from before the last lot of channels switched to 1920x1080i/25 for their transmissions in the UK, so I'll test those.

It has only been a month or two since I tested it though and I doubt much has changed in terms of MadVR & LAV Filters performance since then.
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Old 27th February 2013, 12:34   #17816  |  Link
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Is there a simple source for push notification of new madVR releases?
Yes. Yes, there is.

Go to the first post. Click on ‘old madVR versions here’. Scroll down to the change log. Just above it, there’s a link ‘Email me when it has been updated’. It requires you to be registered at VideoHelp, but registration is easy.

Direct link: http://www.videohelp.com/toolsedit?notify=1196
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I read that Sammy's plasma's suffer from a loud buzzing noise on bright pictures
I think that's fairly common with the majority of plasmas. My ST30 buzzes on bright screens but not as much as the V20 I had before it. Maybe future generations likely improve it still more.. It's not really an issue, it's only noticeable to me when I'm in my browser on a primarily white screen.. I don't hear any buzz over the volume of the video. As I'm typing this the buzz is quite acceptable thanks to the majority of grey on this page.

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Real men check the OP every 10 mins \o/
I check my subscriptions a little too frequently I think..
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Guys, I changed my monitor, I'm now using a Benq XL2420T. Do not know yet how to configure it properly. At the moment, I'm using it with a nvidia GF8600 GT, but even towards the end of the year, I change video card. What better setting for the madvr for the whole xl2420t/gf8600 gt? I appreciate if you can help me.
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There are different maximum clock speeds though. My i5-3320M can do 1.2 GHz, the i5-3340M can do 1.25 GHz, for example. Not much in it though.


I see. I have some 1440x1080i/25 recordings from before the last lot of channels switched to 1920x1080i/25 for their transmissions in the UK, so I'll test those.

It has only been a month or two since I tested it though and I doubt much has changed in terms of MadVR & LAV Filters performance since then.
Thanks guys, these're really useful information!
Is there any table of small reference where I can see the differences between CPUs ? (cores, clocks, GPU, clocks)
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Thanks guys, these're really useful information!
Is there any table of small reference where I can see the differences between CPUs ? (cores, clocks, GPU, clocks)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors
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