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Old 10th April 2011, 00:34   #6601  |  Link
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About the (red) OSD, could you make it another color? I too am slightly color blind, and it's sometimes very difficult to see the text. It's not about size, just the color.
Maybe white text with a thin black border?
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Madshi, what improvements/differences are we likely to see with the final FSE rendering path?
From all the hints he's been giving lately I bet we'll see DXVA support or some other kind of hardware acceleration. But since he didn't talk about the upcoming features specifically, I guess he wants to surprise us (or he doesn't want to disappoint users by promising features he might no be able to implement in the end) so we'll have to wait for the release.
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Old 10th April 2011, 01:00   #6603  |  Link
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It's not DXVA support. Cause I had asked about that in another thread cause I thought he was working on that and he said no.
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Old 10th April 2011, 01:06   #6604  |  Link
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I don't think there will be actual "features", it'll most likely just be smoother and overall better.
But lets wait a few hours!
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Old 10th April 2011, 01:10   #6605  |  Link
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You've said you're working on a version of madVR that can work with DXVA, right?
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No, I didn't.
That means he didn't say that he was working on DXVA support, not that he didn't (plan to) work on DXVA.

But please don't hang me in case I'm wrong.

I feel like one of those Harry Potter fans standing in line for the midnight sale right now. Random fact: madVR turned 2 years yesterday.
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Old 10th April 2011, 01:11   #6606  |  Link
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Well, I'm watching a blu-ray with 0.49 right now and man, literally THE best PQ I have on my PC. So, if there's an improvement to make things smoother, I'm all for it.
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Old 10th April 2011, 01:12   #6607  |  Link
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That means he didn't say that he was working on DXVA support, not that he didn't (plan to) work on DXVA.

But please don't hang me in case I'm wrong.
ROFLMAO! That's, um, one way to look at it I suppose. LOL!
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Of course, he has to tease us with posts like this, from the CoreAVC thread:

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madVR simply doesn't support DXVA (yet?).
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And he wonders why I asked about it in the other thread? sigh.
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Old 10th April 2011, 02:21   #6610  |  Link
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I think he simply states that he does not entirely refuse to support DXVA ("may be in the future" - but it is funny because DXVA will be less and less important with time, as we will have faster and faster CPUs...) but I think he doesn't really care. (For example, I wouldn't use it anyway because I simply don't trust in the DXVA decoder as much as I trust in the software libavcodec.)

What about the 10 bit/color output and "VGA LUT reset/reload", by the way?

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I'd be more interested in STREAM/CUDA decoding which is what I'm using now. Because then he has full control over the decoded frame for post processing. And none of the drawbacks of DXVA. That's what gives madVR its power.
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Is there any way to prevent MadVR from making my screen flash and other junk every time I go from full screen to restore? It's very annoying.
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I only want DXVA support for hardware deinterlacing. I use my HTPC as my DVR, and HW deinterlacing is the only method that works well no matter what I throw at it - which I think is due more to poor quality ATSC broadcasts than anything else.

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Is there any way to prevent MadVR from making my screen flash and other junk every time I go from full screen to restore? It's very annoying.
You could try disabling the automatic fullscreen exclusive mode.
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Is there any way to prevent MadVR from making my screen flash and other junk every time I go from full screen to restore? It's very annoying.
Have you tried disabling the option to turn off Aero Glass in fullscreen mode?
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Old 10th April 2011, 07:40   #6615  |  Link
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I'm afraid I have no idea what you are talking about. I mean this OSD in the top left...

It is always the same size regardless of the window/video size (as it should be).

I want it to be exactly the same as the OSD that you would get with MPC-HC + EVR.
Oh well, personally, I prefer the madVR OSD over the MPC-HC OSD. I think mine looks better. But that's probably a matter of taste. Anyway, this is not the right time to talk about cosmetics. Let's delay this until madVR is feature complete, ok?

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Well, there are two parts of firewall: HIPS and network filter. Netfilter is ok now (no packets sent by madVR). But it still triggers HIPS by trying to use some kind of network related functions. You can get trial version here. But it should be same with any other HIPS.
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About the (red) OSD, could you make it another color? I too am slightly color blind, and it's sometimes very difficult to see the text. It's not about size, just the color.
Maybe white text with a thin black border?
The problem with white text (without a black border) is that the sky is often very bright in movies, so a white OSD would be practically invisible. A black OSD would also be practically invisible in dark scenes. There are rarely scenes which are all red, so the current OSD color is a good choice, IMHO. Of course adding a thin black border would solve things, but doing that properly is harder than it seems and I've simply more important things to do first.

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From all the hints he's been giving lately I bet we'll see DXVA support or some other kind of hardware acceleration.
No, sorry. v0.50 is only about performance/smoothness in fullscreen exclusive mode.

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It's not DXVA support. Cause I had asked about that in another thread cause I thought he was working on that and he said no.
That's not what I said...

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That means he didn't say that he was working on DXVA support, not that he didn't (plan to) work on DXVA.
Correct! I'm simply refusing to comment on DXVA at the moment. DXVA support may come, or maybe not. If it comes, maybe next week, maybe in 3 years. I'm generally not commenting on future versions.

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I don't think there will be actual "features", it'll most likely just be smoother and overall better.
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Of course, he has to tease us with posts like this, from the CoreAVC thread: [...]


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I think he simply states that he does not entirely refuse to support DXVA ("may be in the future" - but it is funny because DXVA will be less and less important with time, as we will have faster and faster CPUs...) but I think he doesn't really care. (For example, I wouldn't use it anyway because I simply don't trust in the DXVA decoder as much as I trust in the software libavcodec.)
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I'd be more interested in STREAM/CUDA decoding which is what I'm using now. Because then he has full control over the decoded frame for post processing. And none of the drawbacks of DXVA. That's what gives madVR its power.
FWIW, *if* I ever implement DXVA support then it won't have any image quality drawbacks (unless the DXVA decoder hardware is broken/buggy).

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Is there any way to prevent MadVR from making my screen flash and other junk every time I go from full screen to restore? It's very annoying.
The latest madVR version disables Aero by default when you switch to fullscreen, and reenables it by default when you "restore". You can modify this behaviour in the madVR settings.

FWIW, I'm considering leaving Aero on *by default* (but I'll keep the options as they currently are).

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Some bad news, unfortunately: On my HTPC (NVidia 9400 mainboard), either Direct3D or the NVidia drivers are not behaving as the Direct3D documentation says, resulting in problems with my final exclusive mode rendering path. Not sure how to handle this yet... I still hope to have a new version out later today. But I'm not sure how much of an improvement it will be over the madVR v0.49 (if any at all). Need to cross check how it behaves with ATI.
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Old 10th April 2011, 08:34   #6616  |  Link
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Thank you madschi,

Just take your time, there is no need to rush. It's done when you think everything behaves like you want it to behave.

Have a nice sunday.
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That was not my last answer. Anyway, I do plan to add a "repeated frame" counter, but I cannot technically do that with the current presentation logic. It will come in a future madVR version. Might take a couple of weeks.
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Excuse me to disturb you but I would like to know if do you expect to add this counter soon because in 0.49 there is not still this counter?


Can I expect in one week, one month or more?

Thanks.
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So much for that :/
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Lol! Thanks for the clarification. That's no fun about the nvidia side of the house. I hope you're able to find a clever solution.
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Old 10th April 2011, 19:28   #6620  |  Link
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Sorry guys, no new version today. Still fighting with exclusive mode on my stupid NVidia 9400. Hopefully tomorrow.
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