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Old 25th November 2010, 18:25   #10281  |  Link
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Are you going to BD-25 or BD-9? When going to BD-9 it will do the encode anyway (it has to).
No mate sorry forgot to say, im going to BD-25. The size of the original menu video is about 480meg, so I set the MIN thingy to 600meg and set it off.. it still re did it tho and made it down to 48meg.. grr! haha
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Old 25th November 2010, 18:37   #10282  |  Link
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No mate sorry forgot to say, im going to BD-25. The size of the original menu video is about 480meg, so I set the MIN thingy to 600meg and set it off.. it still re did it tho and made it down to 48meg.. grr! haha
You need to make sure you put the wording in correctly and in the right place. Example:
Below [Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=600
If you check BD-RB files to reencode from the list, the files less than this size will not be present.
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Old 25th November 2010, 19:09   #10283  |  Link
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I have noticed a problem with Santa Clause 3 and with the new collectors edition of Avatar. They both have some playlist that reference parts of a larger clip. When its rebuilt the new playlist will start at the right spot, but the end time will be changed to the end of the clip instead of whatever the original length it should have been. So what should be say one minute can have a length of an hour instead.
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Old 25th November 2010, 20:44   #10284  |  Link
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You need to make sure you put the wording in correctly and in the right place. Example:
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MIN_M2TS_SIZE=600
If you check BD-RB files to reencode from the list, the files less than this size will not be present.
Yeah triple checked that mate to no avail, everything is in correct and no matter what I put as the setting being 600 or 1 theres always 2 files there at 112mb and 487mb waiting to encoded grr..

Hmm, just noticed though that the 2 files are MPEG-2 and not MPEG-4.. all the others are MPEG-4 at 9gig a file.. hmmm
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Old 25th November 2010, 23:46   #10285  |  Link
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Yeah triple checked that mate to no avail, everything is in correct and no matter what I put as the setting being 600 or 1 theres always 2 files there at 112mb and 487mb waiting to encoded grr..

Hmm, just noticed though that the 2 files are MPEG-2 and not MPEG-4.. all the others are MPEG-4 at 9gig a file.. hmmm
Post your logs, perhaps there will be something apparent.
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Old 26th November 2010, 03:31   #10286  |  Link
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Hey jdobbs i have a new problem

My standard settings:

BD25
Quicker Encode for Extras
High Quality (default) 2pass

It's the new Inception BluRay, but i've the same problems with Harry Potter 1+2 Extended.

So the main movie is splitted in some m2ts Files.
BD_Rebuilder encodes some main movie m2ts files as extras, so they will be just 1pass encoded.
So the quality is bad, some parts of the movie are pixelated because of 1pass encoding.

Can i just fix this problem if i remove the Quicker Encode for Extras option?

Or is this a bug of BD_Rebuilder and u can fix it?

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Old 26th November 2010, 05:36   #10287  |  Link
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Hey jdobbs i have a new problem

My standard settings:

BD25
Quicker Encode for Extras
High Quality (default) 2pass

It's the new Inception BluRay, but i've the same problems with Harry Potter 1+2 Extended.

So the main movie is splitted in some m2ts Files.
BD_Rebuilder encodes some main movie m2ts files as extras, so they will be just 1pass encoded.
So the quality is bad, some parts of the movie are pixelated because of 1pass encoding.

Can i just fix this problem if i remove the Quicker Encode for Extras option?

Or is this a bug of BD_Rebuilder and u can fix it?
That should be impossible. If the files are a part of the main feature playlist they should be encoded with the same quality. Inception hasn't been released here yet, so I can't check that one -- but I've done both of the other two (unless there is a new release of them) and they had no issue for me.

Are these associated with original discs -- and there is no preprocessing of any type? It sure sounds like there has been some manipulation that has corrupted the source.
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Old 26th November 2010, 07:24   #10288  |  Link
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Post your logs, perhaps there will be something apparent.
Hope there is.. here you go!

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[21:29:07] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: AN_IDIOT_ABROAD_D1
- Input BD size: 40.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:18:17.399]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:29:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:29:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [21:29:22] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 7)
- [21:29:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 752 frames
- [21:29:22] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:29:50] Video Encode complete
- [21:29:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:29:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:29:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [21:30:47] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 7)
- [21:30:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 3,109 frames
- [21:30:47] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:32:29] Video Encode complete
- [21:32:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:32:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:32:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [21:39:04] Reencoding: VID_00018 (3 of 7)
- [21:39:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 34,196 frames
- [21:39:04] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:11:30] Video Encode complete
- [22:11:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:11:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:12:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [22:21:18] Reencoding: VID_00002 (4 of 7)
- [22:21:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 64,463 frames
- Bitrate: 16,064 Kbs
- [22:21:18] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:43:12] Video Encode complete
- [23:43:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:43:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:46:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [23:58:32] Reencoding: VID_00003 (5 of 7)
- [23:58:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 64,705 frames
- Bitrate: 16,229 Kbs
- [23:58:33] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:12:43] Video Encode complete
- [01:12:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:12:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:15:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [01:23:41] Reencoding: VID_00001 (6 of 7)
- [01:23:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 64,960 frames
- Bitrate: 16,512 Kbs
- [01:23:41] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:46:59] Video Encode complete
- [02:46:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:46:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:49:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:59:59] Reencoding: VID_00000 (7 of 7)
- [02:59:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 65,250 frames
- Bitrate: 17,139 Kbs
- [02:59:59] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:22:41] Video Encode complete
- [04:22:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:22:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[04:25:37]PHASE ONE complete
[04:25:37]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [04:25:37] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[04:25:58] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[04:25:59]JOB: AN_IDIOT_ABROAD_D1 finished.
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Old 26th November 2010, 10:37   #10289  |  Link
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jdobbs you've been doing a great job here ! Cheers mate !

Straight to the point: I've been doing great BD-9 "movie only" copies with BD-Rebuilder.

But now I want to make a BD-25 full backup of region A "Toy Story 3", keeping just one DTS-MA english and AC3 5.1 portuguese audio tracks and english and portuguese subs.

Can anybody tell me the best settings to do so ?
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Old 26th November 2010, 14:10   #10290  |  Link
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That should be impossible. If the files are a part of the main feature playlist they should be encoded with the same quality. Inception hasn't been released here yet, so I can't check that one -- but I've done both of the other two (unless there is a new release of them) and they had no issue for me.

Are these associated with original discs -- and there is no preprocessing of any type? It sure sounds like there has been some manipulation that has corrupted the source.
Sry, but the Source isn't corrupted!
I have ripped the movie 2 times again with Fab and Any.
All play fine on my PC and my Dune HD.

So here are some pictures:

00004.m2ts is a part of the Main Movie and you can see that this1 is just 1pass encoded.



And here you can see the comparsion between the original, 1pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras enabled) and the 2pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras disabled)
Left is the original, middle1 is the 1pass encode and the right1 is the 2pass encode with Quicker encode for Extras Option disabled


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Old 26th November 2010, 14:34   #10291  |  Link
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Like I said... nothing I can do until it is released in the U.S. But, honestly, I have my doubts...

Try opening the rip in movie-only mode. If 00004.m2ts isn't in the list, then it isn't a part of the feature playlist. By the way, there are lots of situations in which 1 pass encoding is used even for the main feature. It all depends on your "Quality" settings. But since you didn't post any of your logs or config files (as I always ask), I can't determine anything useful related to your bug report.
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Old 26th November 2010, 14:35   #10292  |  Link
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jdobbs you've been doing a great job here ! Cheers mate !

Straight to the point: I've been doing great BD-9 "movie only" copies with BD-Rebuilder.

But now I want to make a BD-25 full backup of region A "Toy Story 3", keeping just one DTS-MA english and AC3 5.1 portuguese audio tracks and english and portuguese subs.

Can anybody tell me the best settings to do so ?
Use the defaults, they are set as "default" precisely because they are the best settings to use.
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Old 26th November 2010, 16:12   #10293  |  Link
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I think I had similar problem yesterday.
When I input blu-ray into bd-rb, the main movie was not expanded, it was an extra video file.

my setting ARE BD-25,, HIGH QUALITY, 2 -PASS.

I'm just used to seeing the main movie always expanded from the Stream list. This was the first time the main movie was not, just one of the extras.
Do you think the main movie was still encoded as the main movie?
The movie was Expendables.
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Old 26th November 2010, 17:05   #10294  |  Link
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Hope there is.. here you go!
Also post your .INF, shows your configuration setup.
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Old 26th November 2010, 18:36   #10295  |  Link
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Also post your .INF, shows your configuration setup.
okay mate.. erm.. wheres that?
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Old 26th November 2010, 19:43   #10296  |  Link
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in your temp folder & bd-rebuilder install folder
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Old 26th November 2010, 20:48   #10297  |  Link
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@MrT.

Hi!

You've nothing to worry about, if you've selected full disc copy and did NOT select "Quick extras" (or whatever that wording is).

BD-RB, as well as virtually any other conversion and/or ripping program will typically presume that the LARGEST individual file is the "main movie". In the case of "The Expendables", the largest individual file (6+Gb) is, in fact, an "Extras" files - while the main movie is comprised of multiple, smaller files...
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Old 26th November 2010, 21:02   #10298  |  Link
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Hi! seta rip
I did have "Quicker" Encode for extras selected.. I will re-do it with it NOT selected.
Thanks a lot for that info, I overlooked it. It will probably take twice as long, luckily this is not the norm
Good day...
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Old 26th November 2010, 21:07   #10299  |  Link
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in your temp folder & bd-rebuilder install folder
I cant find anything in my temp or bd-rebuilder install folder called .inf or with the extension of .inf.. am I having a blonde moment here guys..
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Old 26th November 2010, 21:10   #10300  |  Link
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I think I had similar problem yesterday.
When I input blu-ray into bd-rb, the main movie was not expanded, it was an extra video file.

my setting ARE BD-25,, HIGH QUALITY, 2 -PASS.

I'm just used to seeing the main movie always expanded from the Stream list. This was the first time the main movie was not, just one of the extras.
Do you think the main movie was still encoded as the main movie?
The movie was Expendables.
That can happen, not very often, but it can happen. There actually is no way of positively telling which playlist is the feature since there is no flag on the disc saying "I'm the main movie", so BD-RB makes a best guess. In most cases it chooses the largest playlist. But, when you have two that are within about 10 minutes of each other (in length) it will choose the second largest (so it will default to the "standard" version rather than "extended" when both are present.

If you have an extra that is larger than the feature -- it is possible it could be picked for movie-only. When that happens, you just select a different playlist.
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