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9th May 2009, 12:10 | #1 | Link |
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BD-RB: Workarounds for 'reached retry limit. Aborting' error
If x264 crashes when you are encoding with BD-RB it's technically not a BD-RB bug.
If you are using Windows 7 RC build 7100+ the microsoft VC-1 decoder can't be used outside of WMP/WMC by default. Also the microsoft AVC/H.264 decoder is preferred over all other directshow filters when using DirectShowSource. There are 2 ways I know of to work around these issues. One way is to set VC-1 to WMV9 in ffdshow and use clsid's tool, this is a 'what is set is used' method but it doesn't let you use unsupported filters or graphs for directshowsource. If you prefer the XP/Vista way of handling directshow priorities with merits and allows all filters you can use the fix Atak_Snajpera found or if you don't feel comfortable editing the registry I wrote a one-click batch file that works for Windows 7 x86/x64. Otherwise the problem is usually the file can't be decoded with the current decoder, this is a common problem with interlaced VC-1. An example of one of these streams can be found here To see if the problematic stream in question is interlaced VC-1 check the stream window and look for one these: VC-1 1080i VC-1 720i VC-1 576i VC-1 480i Workarounds for interlaced VC-1: For best results buy, unless you already own, Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 2 and use Jay Bee's VC1tweak which works for 32 bit OS or this one with 32/64 bit support and set VC-1 Tweaker (haali) merit to preferred with graphstudio or set to use with clsid's tool in Windows 7. It's been tested working on XP x86/64, Vista x86/64, Windows 7 x86/64 with the TotalMedia Theatre 2.1.6.119 patch mirror. I'm not sure if other v2 builds work or if TotalMedia Extreme works, but v3 does not work. TotalMedia Theatre 2 and 3 can be installed at the same time. Note for XP x64 users: TMT2 isn't officially supported, the player doesn't work but VC1tweak does. After installing you will get a BSOD on boot, you have to choose last known good configuration from the XP boot menu (F8 during XP logo) after that's been done it will boot like normal. Another way if you are on Vista you can use the wmv9 decoder from Windows 7 with this tool which may output pixelated video. As a last resort you can use PowerDVD 7 VC1tweak which always resizes interlaced VC-1 to 720x480 and may output pixelated video. It also includes PDVD7 MPEG2 and H.264 filters which don't resize neither does VC-1 with progressive video. Thanks to Joniii's VC1tweak without it this wouldn't be possible. I suggest to use WMV9 by default since it's well tested and faster, and to only use Arcsoft/PowerDVD decoders when needed. The only other alternative is to use MIN_M2TS=<size larger than problematic M2TS in MB> in BD-REBUILDER.INI which will not encode any m2ts under the size you set. It's usually fine for BD25 target but may not be when aiming for DVD5/9. Last edited by Guest; 11th June 2009 at 20:14. |
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The principal of this is really to recode the extras rather than an approach to the main movie. If you are going to bd-25, even if there are two versions of the film (I just did Dark City), by re-encoding the audio you can get both versions and the extras in very good quality in bd-25. The issue is where you want to go to bd-9 and the min_m2ts isn't applicable, or sensible in most cases. If the extras are sizeable, such as in 300 or Mummy 3 and also vc-1, then you are stuck without this workaround. In your case couldn't you use tsmuxer to create a version with the film you don't want removed before using bd-rb.
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I don't have a problem doing movie only, just full backup to BD-25. I just have not been able to find a way to keep the entire movie, reencoding or not, and maintain audio sync for the main movie. I'm not trying to stray from this thread, just wanted to share where an example of MIN_M2TS did not work.
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It won't be resolved until BD-RB correctly handles that type of stream. |
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hmmm...Is everything supposed to get resized to 720p from 1080i...
Confirmed... When you install the script - all video gets encoded at 720p!!! (All VC1 at least 1080i\p) When you uninstall the script - back to normal! What's going on here? Last edited by Furiousflea; 9th May 2009 at 20:47. |
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It's sort of working but I am doing Mummy 3 (I did the main movie and as far as I could get with the normal codec and waited for it to abort before switching to the workaround) and the m2ts file I was having problems with was just over 2Gb and now it's 100 Mb - reduced to 720 and horribly pixelated.
Interestingly I have allowed the encode to continue on the other none effected extras. They are fine quality wise and a better ratio of the original size. UPDATE Okay, the disc completed and was 7.41 Gb. The disc (hard disc folder) plays fine although as expected (as I'd checked the m2ts file) the problem file was way too small and the quality so pixelated it was just about unwatchable. However, it was only a 16 minute documentary so not the end of the world. It would be interesting to see if anything can be done about the issue. Last edited by drmih; 10th May 2009 at 00:51. |
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Most likely won't play either if BDRB doesn't know it's not going to be 1080p on a SAD. |
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Tried other versions of PowerDVD 8 decoders and still the resizing issue.
Small update - switched to using latest powerDVD filters that still work, 8.0.2217 - now all files get deleted from system directory - unregistering corrected I will try to make something with arcsoft decoders which isn't supposed to have the resize issue. Last edited by turbojet; 10th May 2009 at 12:04. |
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Any suggestions about what to do before I put my PC on fire? Maybe someone can put up a screenshot of how he could build a chain with Haali and the Arcsoft codec? Edit: Could it be the diffrent version I have installed? If so where can I get the other from, the officiall site only has v3 now :/ Edit2: Found the old version, installed and now I can play interlaced VC-1. Still can't open it in megui though (that's actually the goal :P ), throws a: "Exception EInOutError in module VC1Tweak_Haali.ax at 0001F91C. I/O error 103." Edit3: Again I have been proven wrong. It doesn't matter what I open the m2ts with, I can only do it ONCE after every reboot. An a fresh boot I can either check the filter chain in graphedit, play the file or open it in megui. After doing one of those every other action will always result in a complete application lockup and the above error. Edit4: Fixed by reinstalling both haali's splitter and the tweak... Video now playing but all stuttery. Could encode in megui but the resulting .mkv is this wonderfull: http://i44.tinypic.com/2ql7eoh.png Guess I should start thinking about just giving up...
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DonDan: Can you try 2.1.6.119 patch and see what happens?
What movie and region of BD is giving problems? What OS and is it x86 or x64? Also could you cut a small video only part with tsmuxer where it crashes x264 with wmv9 and upload to a place like mediafire? Microsoft and ffmpeg devs could use all the problem samples they can get, too bad they aren't easy to reach. Hopefully we'll have a good, free solution soon from ffmpeg's google summer of code VC-1 interlaced support project |
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I am trying the arcsoft tweak but can't get bd-rb to pick it up. It still goes for x264. I have tried graphstudio and that picks up WMVideo Decoder DMO rather than VC-1 Tweaker. I have changed the merit of it, and also disabled vc-1 in ffdshow (although I'm not sure if that is relevant). In graphstudio, although it picks up WMVideo, if I replace it with vc-1 tweaker it plays the clips perfectly.
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