BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[sonate]

JDobbs, about the aften error:

I've remember first trying this on an earlier build using "the prestige" and ended up with the same error message. Since then I kept HD audio.

FWIW, here's the ini in case I have something set wrong. In the audio encoding options in setup I believe I had the "do not re-encode AC3 (bluray only)" and "use 448 kb for AC3 encoding" checked.

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.9
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=50500
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=R:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\

[Wolfe999]

Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n

Thats normal, a BD-9 IS a blu-ray structure on a DVD. If you want a movie only DVD you need to use the alternate move output mode

Thanx, Ch3vron. I know that even though they are burnt on a DVD, they have a BluRay structure. What I meant is that my LG always showed them as AVCHD, not BluRay... But I think I know where was the problem.

As I always demux the movie through HD-DVD Blu-Ray Stream Extract to check which language is Spanish (Castillian) and Spanish (Latino), (as lately almost every BluRay comes with both) and the same for the subs, I think I forgot to check movie only and that gave me the BluRay result. In any case, I will check it later.

Thanx again

[glood1]

HI

i have a new PC : I7 intel 2600 K @overclocking a 4.43 ghz
16 mo ram and sdd hyper 240 go
i'm watercooling

I m' tow 2 pass in slow mode with CRF ABR diseabled
(it' s the best mode ?)
i dont understand why my eight core Cpu are only 30% load ?
cpu is 44 %
fps 72.4 in process



in video configuration in FFDSHOW.. :
what's the best codec libavocdec for avc
or ffmpeg ?


in audio configuration in FFDSHOW
what's the difference between liba 52 en libavcodec
it important ?

thanks for you tips

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by glood1

HI

i have a new PC : I7 intel 2600 K @overclocking a 4.43 ghz
16 mo ram and sdd hyper 240 go
i'm watercooling

I m' tow 2 pass in slow mode with CRF ABR diseabled
(it' s the best mode ?)
i dont understand why my eight core Cpu are only 30% load ?
cpu is 44 %
fps 72.4 in process



in video configuration in FFDSHOW.. :
what's the best codec libavocdec for avc
or ffmpeg ?


in audio configuration in FFDSHOW
what's the difference between liba 52 en libavcodec
it important ?

thanks for you tips

I think what is happening is that your processor is encoding so fast that the frame serving (AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW) can't keep up with it -- that's why your usage peaks at 30%. Just as a test, try setting "Use X264's Internal LAVF decoding" in the SETUP menu and see if that gives you more speed.

The two MPG decoder options just use different libraries within FFDSHOW. From my experience I don't see any difference between "libavcodec" and "libmpeg2" in terms of speed or quality. But that could change depending upon the processor -- so I'd suggest you try both. Of course the only time it will be used is when your sources is MPEG-2.

As for "liba52" and "libavcodec" for AC3 -- I've always left it at the default (liba52) so I can't really comment. I'd guess it'll be more-or-less the same answer.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by sonate

JDobbs, about the aften error:

I've remember first trying this on an earlier build using "the prestige" and ended up with the same error message. Since then I kept HD audio.

FWIW, here's the ini in case I have something set wrong. In the audio encoding options in setup I believe I had the "do not re-encode AC3 (bluray only)" and "use 448 kb for AC3 encoding" checked.

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.9
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
...
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
...
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=50500
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=R:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\

In this INF you definitely had AC3 encoding turned on.

[sonate]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

In this INF you definitely had AC3 encoding turned on.

It should be turned on, right?

I'm running a few other movies to see if this happens all the time. I set the output size to something above 50 gb so I wouldn't have to wait for a video re-encode. I'm assuming this won't have any bearing on the command to convert HD audio to AC3, and you will tell me otherwise if my assumption is wrong.

[sonate]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

In this INF you definitely had AC3 encoding turned on.

Well interesting........ tried Deja-vu no error message but the application didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started. Question, do I need to install another encoder for the directshow workaround?

the applicable avs:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\Temp\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectShowSource("D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00014_4352.mkv").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

Also tried "midnight express" which recoded the Dolby trueHD
into AC3 480kbs perfectly. So at least now I know it works on my system.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by sonate

Well interesting........ tried Deja-vu no error message but the application didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started. Question, do I need to install another encoder for the directshow workaround?

the applicable avs:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\Temp\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectShowSource("D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00014_4352.mkv").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

Also tried "midnight express" which recoded the Dolby trueHD
into AC3 480kbs perfectly. So at least now I know it works on my system.

I don't know what you mean "didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started" ? Are you sure you gave it enough time to complete? Did you get an abort or error messages?

No you shouldn't need anything extra for the workaround.

Will the MKV file (AUD_00014_4352.mkv) play if you double-click it?

[sonate]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

I don't know what you mean "didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started" ? Are you sure you gave it enough time to complete? Did you get an abort or error messages?

No you shouldn't need anything extra for the workaround.

Will the MKV file (AUD_00014_4352.mkv) play if you double-click it?

It's been here for over 40 min " - [18:03:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)" No file in the workfolder has been updated since then.

No error message, and I aborted and restarted a few times to see what would happen. The .mkv file does play.

I'd post an image of the folder, but Doom9 is rejecting every image file I try to upload.

[stereo55]

No problems here with the new 38.0.9 build . Three Blu's copied thus far with it (movie only) with DTS-DTS/HD everything went perfect and Blu's looks great . Seems the new build de-codes faster too (maybe my imagination ?) , but my files sizes are all about the same and the decoding just seemed to blaze through these last few movies (with no firmware update on my burner) .

Anyway ....Cudo's to the new build !

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by stereo55

No problems here with the new 38.0.9 build . Three Blu's copied thus far with it (movie only) with DTS-DTS/HD everything went perfect and Blu's looks great . Seems the new build de-codes faster too (maybe my imagination ?) , but my files sizes are all about the same and the decoding just seemed to blaze through these last few movies (with no firmware update on my burner) .

Anyway ....Cudo's to the new build !

Thanks. It's nice to get some good feedback. The next release should include "Menus and Movie Only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.

[omegaman7]

Incredible Jdobbs! Expect another donation soon then. I've been wondering all day what I'm gonna do with "Drag me to Hell". They didn't employ seamless branching, so there are 2 very large titles on the disc. I'd prefer blank the theatrical title

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by omegaman7

Incredible Jdobbs! Expect another donation soon then. I've been wondering all day what I'm gonna do with "Drag me to Hell". They didn't employ seamless branching, so there are 2 very large titles on the disc. I'd prefer blank the theatrical title

So they have two complete independent titles? That's a pretty poor way to author it... but I guess they figure they have way more space on a BD-50 than is ever needed.

[omegaman7]

THat's exactly what I thought. Pretty poor. Perhaps lazy. Don't know about the coding involved. It is currently an obstacle for people who like to backup too. Perhaps that's why. Yes, they are independent. That's confirmed. I looked right at the files. They should have used seamless branching, and added some more extra features. I love gag reels!

[setarip_old]

A review from "Blu-ray.com" seems to indicate that MOST scenes are different in the two versions (as opposed to many other two-version videos with some additions only to a few scenes), making it necessaryto have two completely separate versions on the disc:

Please note the Blu-ray edition includes both the theatrical and unrated versions of the film. While both cuts are essentially the same length, the unrated version injects more blood into the proceedings and enhances some of the film's grosser gags. Alas, the results are a mixed bag. Some scenes have been improved (Christine's nosebleed and her fight with the old woman among them) but others are worse for the wear (a falling anvil produces a more cartoonish death, an animal sacrifice nets some over-the-top spatter, and a few CG effects are less effective).

[omegaman7]

Cheers! That explains it well

[Sharc]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

...the next release should include "menus and movie only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.

[dfsooner]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

The next release should include "Menus and Movie Only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.

Wow. I'm anxious to see that.

I've been using Clown_BD BD Copier to do that but it has some bugs which jump up and bite me occasionally.

[dfsooner]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

So they have two complete independent titles? That's a pretty poor way to author it... but I guess they figure they have way more space on a BD-50 than is ever needed.

Both unrated and theatrical versions appear on many titles. That's why they segment the movies - so they can use segments in both, insert additional segments or leave out segments in the various versions without duplicating the footage.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by dfsooner

Both unrated and theatrical versions appear on many titles. That's why they segment the movies - so they can use segments in both, insert additional segments or leave out segments in the various versions without duplicating the footage.

You missed the point.

What is unusual is that in the example he gave they aren't segmented -- there are two complete movies with no shared segments.