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Old 21st December 2012, 11:56   #81  |  Link
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Thing is that each and every public build that has been posted, if asked for need to have source. Just read a bit on GPL. And no, i'm not trying to sound like an ass. It's not question of their public release it's this particular build that source needs to be shown to public.
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Old 21st December 2012, 14:06   #82  |  Link
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If you're going to post MPC-BE builds in our thread please provide the source code for them, you are obliged to do so under the GPL.
Do you want to say, that the MPC-HC never violated the GPL?
Then, I beg of you to give your comments about this list with links:
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https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2589
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2584
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2555
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2540
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2465
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2462
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2382
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2344
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2342
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2287
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2218
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2070
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1938
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1694
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1690
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1680
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1668
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1621
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1612

Where can I find the source code to published there builds mpc-hc. I have a collection of such references, more than 200 pieces.
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Old 21st December 2012, 14:30   #83  |  Link
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Do you want to say, that the MPC-HC never violated the GPL?
Then, I beg of you to give your comments about this list with links:



Where can I find the source code to published there builds mpc-hc. I have a collection of such references, more than 200 pieces.
But if someone requested source-code of those builds, MPC-HC's developers would happily provide them, methinks.
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Old 21st December 2012, 15:01   #84  |  Link
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But if someone requested source-code of those builds, MPC-HC's developers would happily provide them, methinks.
Well, who said that we do not provide your source code? In our every release, there's a complete copy of the source code at the time of issue.
All charges on the part of team members mpc-hc, it is no more than speculation, in order to reduce the attention to our software product. When they can't bypass the competitor technically, you can use other tools, for example, accused of any violations.
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Old 21st December 2012, 20:36   #85  |  Link
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Do you want to say, that the MPC-HC never violated the GPL?
Then, I beg of you to give your comments about this list with links:



Where can I find the source code to published there builds mpc-hc. I have a collection of such references, more than 200 pieces.
Most of those tickets has had their source code committed to our publicly accessible repo, so the source code is available there. And since the move to github we often distribute the source code of test builds through our own developer repositories. We're not perfect, but we try.

But the thing that bothers me in this case is that this thread is not a bug tracker. You are posting builds of your fork in our thread and you don't show the common courtesy of sharing the source code. If you don't want to share the source code of your test builds then don't post them in our thread, simple as that.

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Well, who said that we do not provide your source code? In our every release, there's a complete copy of the source code at the time of issue.
All charges on the part of team members mpc-hc, it is no more than speculation, in order to reduce the attention to our software product. When they can't bypass the competitor technically, you can use other tools, for example, accused of any violations.
The problem is that if you make a change in one of the test builds that our users want to see integrated into MPC-HC we wouldn't be able to until you release a stable. That is exactly the kind of situation that GPL was made to prevent. We share our source code as much as possible and you often make use of that by integrating our changes before we release a stable, it'd only be fair we were allowed to do the same.

But I see you've opened access to the repository and I'm sure you'll commit any useful changes from the test builds there. I hope we can now start collaborating like forks are supposed to, share the knowledge so that both players can further improve upon each other.

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Old 21st December 2012, 22:10   #86  |  Link
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I just installed VS2012. Is it possible to compile either of HC or BE with it?
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Old 21st December 2012, 22:30   #87  |  Link
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I just installed VS2012. Is it possible to compile either of HC or BE with it?
We're going to switch to VS2012 before the next stable, there has already been quite some work on that part. So if all goes well we'll be switching as soon as possible.

If you'd like to try it now, there's a patch in docs/patches. Though I don't know if it's up to date.

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The problem is that if you make a change in one of the test builds that our users want to see integrated into MPC-HC we wouldn't be able to until you release a stable. That is exactly the kind of situation that GPL was made to prevent. We share our source code as much as possible and you often make use of that by integrating our changes before we release a stable, it'd only be fair we were allowed to do the same.
Android does the same thing, they don't publish source code (including GPLv2'd kernel parts) until well after they release a stable.
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Old 22nd December 2012, 01:55   #89  |  Link
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Android does the same thing, they don't publish source code (including GPLv2'd kernel parts) until well after they release a stable.
They (Google) don't have to. They hold the rights to the code. They can even re-license it as they wish.

MPC-BE and MPC-HC both base their work on Gabest's GPL'd code, and thus cannot simply release a binary w/o source code (especially when asked for one).
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Hi guys. MPC-HC have trouble with seeking in some MPEG-TS. Sample - http://aleksoid.voserver.net/Sample/...S.split.1.m2ts
After seek - playing start from the incorrect position.
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I've looked at the minidump, it crashes while trying to create the renderer. But it happens deep in the system, so I have no clear indication why it fails. So since 1.6.4 also fails after 1.6.5 changed the settings I'd like to see if something unexpected has changed. Could you upload those registery files?
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Old 22nd December 2012, 07:39   #92  |  Link
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It seems that only mpc-hc could not decode the file correctly.
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Old 22nd December 2012, 13:05   #94  |  Link
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MPC-HC 1.6.6.6373 x86



internal splitter, the "Subtitles" option is grey, and I can't select either of the pgs subtitles even by "Navigate -> Subtitle Language"..



lav splitter works fine.


Well, my os is win7 x64 china, mpc-be had this issue before and fixed, mpc-hc reproduced?
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It seems that only mpc-hc could not decode the file correctly.
Do not use "Skip all checks" in video decoder.
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Old 22nd December 2012, 20:34   #97  |  Link
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Feature Request 1:
Turn Non-Forced Subtitles off if same language as audio stream
I don't want to see subtitles except forced, e.g. when the aliens speak in Avatar.

Feature Request 2:
[S] subtitle enable/disable button on status / play bar
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Old 22nd December 2012, 20:35   #98  |  Link
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Who's hosting nightly builds now?
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Old 22nd December 2012, 21:21   #99  |  Link
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Who's hosting nightly builds now?
Same person for quite some time now. Kindly hosted by nevcairiel.
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If running MPC-BE and you proceed to uninstall MPC-HC the uninstaller says MPC-HC is running, HC & BE should be able to be distinguished from each other.
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