madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 2322

ryrynz · 10th October 2017, 09:55

Looks like the new AS sharpens more edges, I'd say the new version's sharpness of 0.7-0.8 matches the old 1.0, some areas are much sharper others not so much.

This new AS sharpens the edges of shadowing and lots of inner details which the old one didn't, as it focused more on just the stronger lines which made it very nice for anime.

Comparing new AS 0.7 to old 1.0 I'm finding is that I'm not getting the line sharpness I did (would have to boost to 1.0 to achieve this) but minor shadowing edges are quite visually oversharpened.
I'll look at it on some standard content but you'd probably hate me saying this but..

chros · 10th October 2017, 11:12

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Originally Posted by nevcairiel

Hybrid decoding (like HEVC on Kepler cards) is generally best to stay away from. Its usually slow and often presents problems if the GPU is under high load (ie. with high madVR settings).

Oh, maybe that's why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitterman

Even the video (Annabelle.2014.BluRay.1080p.H265-20-40) is just a lousy 300mb re-encode, it's not even a real 1080p encode.

If you still want, you can cut a couple of minutes sample (with mkvtoolnix) and upload it somewhere. (But make sure first that you still have the problem with that sample.)

cyberscott · 10th October 2017, 13:10

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Originally Posted by mzso

All the links are broken.

I've edited my post with a new link. It should work now.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Q4FzchlC17DeJQ5v2

cyberscott · 10th October 2017, 13:28

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Originally Posted by cyberscott

Here are a couple of screen shots. These are up-scaled from 480p to 4k, with the "reduce random noise /process chroma channels, too" both ticked and set to strength 1. It looks real good from my viewing distance of around six feet (188.66 cm) from a 55 inch (139.7 cm) OLED 4k TV.

Before and after.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Q4FzchlC17DeJQ5v2

Sorry, madshi!
I fixed the link. It should work now.

ashlar42 · 10th October 2017, 13:55

Tried the new filters on old anime, very low res, crappy compression. They're nothing short of miraculous, as far as my taste goes. Thank you madshi, these are very welcome additions.

Razoola · 10th October 2017, 14:21

I'm trying to add a custom resolution in 95.6 using the custon resolution but it is impossible (nvidia). I start my making sure the display is in a different refreshrate than I want to change. I then choose the edit option, then I hit the test option which changes the refreshrate and then brings up window with countdown timer asking if I want to save the setting. At this point I choose yes. I then get an error saying you 'cant modify the active mode' and it then reverts back to the previous mode and the custom resolution is not saved.

Is there a workaround for this?

update, I have gone back to 095.4 to get around this issue. After adding the custom resolution I also noticed there is no way to set the bitdepth. This means the added resolution may be 8bit only, is this a known issue?

x7007 · 10th October 2017, 15:09

Why madvr doesn't switch to the automatic 1080p25p from 4K ?

I set it

1080p23, 1080p24, 1080p25, 2160p23, 2160p24, 2160p25, 2160p30, 2160p60

But it even go to 4K60 Hz instead staying 4K59 Hz which what I use default for everything.

What's making specifically in this movie to cause it to go from 4K 59 Hz to 4K 60 Hz instead 1080p25p ?

Using madvr 0.92.6 + Potplayer x64 + LavFilter 0.70.2.79

EDIT : If I delete all the 2160p it goes to 1080p25p correctly. but why it happens only with this movie that I need to delete all the 2160 ones ?

huhn · 10th October 2017, 15:53

for 25 hz madVR has to assume it is interlanced. so something wrong with 2160p50?

adding 1080p23 and 2160p23 makes 1080p23 obsolete BTW.

j82k · 10th October 2017, 16:45

The new nvidia driver 387.92 totally broke HDR for me as well.

It will automatically turn on the windows 10 "HDR and advanced color" setting when playing a HDR video, causing both of my screens to flicker for like 10 seconds and then show a messed up HDR picture.

Reverted back to 385.69 where it's working nicely.

dvd1 · 10th October 2017, 16:51

It needs to improve?

jmonier · 10th October 2017, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razoola

I'm trying to add a custom resolution in 95.6 using the custon resolution but it is impossible (nvidia). I start my making sure the display is in a different refreshrate than I want to change. I then choose the edit option, then I hit the test option which changes the refreshrate and then brings up window with countdown timer asking if I want to save the setting. At this point I choose yes. I then get an error saying you 'cant modify the active mode' and it then reverts back to the previous mode and the custom resolution is not saved.

I get the same result. I'm following the same procedure (up to this point) which I posted previously that madshi said was "spot on", however it doesn't get as far as it did with 92.4, so there appears to be a different bug in the fix.

EDIT: I believe that the step that is missing is this:

When you hit "Yes" (to save) it should change the active mode back to the original and THEN save the custom mode.

(for everybody reading this, note that all this applies to Nvidia ONLY.)

pirlouy · 10th October 2017, 18:14

@dvd1: please, open your own thread named "Help with madVR".

clsid · 10th October 2017, 18:24

Madshi, maybe you could add a heuristic "quality" value? That could be used as a parameter in the preset selection script. Would be very useful particularly for the various processing algos.

I was thinking a value from 1 (very low) to 5 (very high). This value could be determined based the video format (FourCC) and the bits per pixel. The latter value is not known directly yet. Perhaps LAV Filters could export the bitrate (if known). Otherwise a rough estimate could be made using file size and duration.

x7007 · 10th October 2017, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by j82k

The new nvidia driver 387.92 totally broke HDR for me as well.

It will automatically turn on the windows 10 "HDR and advanced color" setting when playing a HDR video, causing both of my screens to flicker for like 10 seconds and then show a messed up HDR picture.

Reverted back to 385.69 where it's working nicely.

Yes same issue for me with this drivers.. it blinks twice and the colour is messed

and it doesn't revert back to non hdr mode.

maybe it's good for games like BF1 ? and not good for movies, if anyone can check

So now not just HDR in games might messed up if they didn't fix it, also HDR movies, and the 3D wizard still if anyone checked ?? I mean wtf nvidia are doing, just adding more bugs.

But at least to fix the Colour issue with HDR you can enable HDR before and enter the movie, or just Enter Full Screen or Full Windowed mode and it will fix it.

el Filou · 10th October 2017, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by clsid

Madshi, maybe you could add a heuristic "quality" value?
This value could be determined based the video format (FourCC) and the bits per pixel. The latter value is not known directly yet. Perhaps LAV Filters could export the bitrate (if known).

I would love that too, it would be especially useful for MPEG2 where the variations of quality depending on bitrate can be massive.

edcrfv94 · 10th October 2017, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by tingtong5

When trying to skip 30 seconds or 10 minutes while playing 4K H265 files in Kodi Dsplayer 16.1 sometimes the screen turnes completely WHITE. Is this a known issue in Madvr? Or maybe its a Kodi issue? Video is still playing cause I still hear sound.

I has same problem.
Some time when D3D11 windowed change to D3D11 fullscreen windowed or D3D11 fullscreen windowed change to D3D11 windowed, video still playing but no image I still hear sound 3-15 sec then video image back.
Also If playing time change pgs subtitle will get white screen few sec.

CPU: ryzen 1950x
GPU: MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X (Drive: 385.69)
OS: Windows 10 home 1703(15063.632)

MPC-BE v1.5.0 x64 + LAV v0.70.2 x64 + madvr v0.92.6 x64 + XySubFilter 3.1.0.746 BETA3 x64

Razoola · 10th October 2017, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmonier

I get the same result. I'm following the same procedure (up to this point) which I posted previously that madshi said was "spot on", however it doesn't get as far as it did with 92.4, so there appears to be a different bug in the fix.

EDIT: I believe that the step that is missing is this:

When you hit "Yes" (to save) it should change the active mode back to the original and THEN save the custom mode.

(for everybody reading this, note that all this applies to Nvidia ONLY.)

Yea, it really looks like nvidia does not allow a new mode to be saved while it is the active refresh rate.

ashlar42 · 10th October 2017, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razoola

Yea, it really looks like nvidia does not allow a new mode to be saved while it is the active refresh rate.

It's always been like this, IIRC. With their tools, I mean.

cork_OS · 10th October 2017, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by madshi

Interesting, I didn't expect "RRN" to handle blocking better than "RCA"! So is there anything RCA does better than RRN for your use case?

No, I definitely prefer RCA because a) RRN is texture detail killer; b) RCA better removes mosquito noise.

RCA5 - original - RRN5

RCA and especially RRN definitely needs strength levels lower 1.

mbze430 · 10th October 2017, 21:58

Anyone else having issue with playing HDR videos? Right now with Kodi/DSplayer+MadVR it just crashes for me. Potplayer+MadVR shows a static screen of the video but you can hear the audio playing. And the TV pops in to HDR mode

Windows 10 16299.15 build MadVR .v0.92.4 Nvidia drivers 387.92 (Titan Xp SLI)

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Razoola Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 454	I'm trying to add a custom resolution in 95.6 using the custon resolution but it is impossible (nvidia). I start my making sure the display is in a different refreshrate than I want to change. I then choose the edit option, then I hit the test option which changes the refreshrate and then brings up window with countdown timer asking if I want to save the setting. At this point I choose yes. I then get an error saying you 'cant modify the active mode' and it then reverts back to the previous mode and the custom resolution is not saved. Is there a workaround for this? update, I have gone back to 095.4 to get around this issue. After adding the custom resolution I also noticed there is no way to set the bitdepth. This means the added resolution may be 8bit only, is this a known issue? Last edited by Razoola; 10th October 2017 at 19:08.

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x7007 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 315	Why madvr doesn't switch to the automatic 1080p25p from 4K ? I set it 1080p23, 1080p24, 1080p25, 2160p23, 2160p24, 2160p25, 2160p30, 2160p60 But it even go to 4K60 Hz instead staying 4K59 Hz which what I use default for everything. What's making specifically in this movie to cause it to go from 4K 59 Hz to 4K 60 Hz instead 1080p25p ? Using madvr 0.92.6 + Potplayer x64 + LavFilter 0.70.2.79 EDIT : If I delete all the 2160p it goes to 1080p25p correctly. but why it happens only with this movie that I need to delete all the 2160 ones ? Last edited by x7007; 10th October 2017 at 15:19.

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ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	Looks like the new AS sharpens more edges, I'd say the new version's sharpness of 0.7-0.8 matches the old 1.0, some areas are much sharper others not so much. This new AS sharpens the edges of shadowing and lots of inner details which the old one didn't, as it focused more on just the stronger lines which made it very nice for anime. Comparing new AS 0.7 to old 1.0 I'm finding is that I'm not getting the line sharpness I did (would have to boost to 1.0 to achieve this) but minor shadowing edges are quite visually oversharpened. I'll look at it on some standard content but you'd probably hate me saying this but..

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ashlar42 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 656	Tried the new filters on old anime, very low res, crappy compression. They're nothing short of miraculous, as far as my taste goes. Thank you madshi, these are very welcome additions.

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,926	for 25 hz madVR has to assume it is interlanced. so something wrong with 2160p50? adding 1080p23 and 2160p23 makes 1080p23 obsolete BTW.

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j82k Registered User Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 155	The new nvidia driver 387.92 totally broke HDR for me as well. It will automatically turn on the windows 10 "HDR and advanced color" setting when playing a HDR video, causing both of my screens to flicker for like 10 seconds and then show a messed up HDR picture. Reverted back to 385.69 where it's working nicely.

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dvd1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 89	It needs to improve?

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pirlouy _ Join Date: May 2008 Location: France Posts: 692	@dvd1: please, open your own thread named "Help with madVR".

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clsid ***** Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,647	Madshi, maybe you could add a heuristic "quality" value? That could be used as a parameter in the preset selection script. Would be very useful particularly for the various processing algos. I was thinking a value from 1 (very low) to 5 (very high). This value could be determined based the video format (FourCC) and the bits per pixel. The latter value is not known directly yet. Perhaps LAV Filters could export the bitrate (if known). Otherwise a rough estimate could be made using file size and duration.

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mbze430 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 2	Anyone else having issue with playing HDR videos? Right now with Kodi/DSplayer+MadVR it just crashes for me. Potplayer+MadVR shows a static screen of the video but you can hear the audio playing. And the TV pops in to HDR mode Windows 10 16299.15 build MadVR .v0.92.4 Nvidia drivers 387.92 (Titan Xp SLI)