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25th March 2012, 19:15 | #12881 | Link |
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Feature request: an option to disable the global hotkeys.
I know you have them enabled because there are situations in which the player is not the active window for some kind of reason. I've also read that you have vague plans to make the hotkeys configurable sometime. I'd ask you to add an option to at least disable them completely. I don't use them -- at all! Don't have to, maybe never will.However, I'm programming in Emacs at the same time, and Ctrl-R and Ctrl-J are both often used keys that I simply cannot use while madVR is running. Thanks.
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25th March 2012, 19:39 | #12883 | Link |
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For me (GTX 275, latest WHQL drivers) it's old FSE >> Windowed (I always have Aero disabled if that matters) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new FSE (even when messing around with all combinations of settings it's never glitch free for me).
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25th March 2012, 19:47 | #12884 | Link |
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I think this has less to do with the videocard brand than it has to do with the OS.
On XP, old FSE = FSE > Windowed, but mostly all provide rock solid smoothness Although of course FSE is rock solid with the certitude it won't mess-up during the entire length of the movie. Windowed on the other hand.. i've seen tearing once or twice.
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25th March 2012, 21:00 | #12885 | Link |
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For myself on WinXP and Win7 (Aero disabled), my NVIDIA GPUs behaved identically. Using my custom flush settings with Windowed Mode + ReClock was > ALL, offering perfect smoothness, and never tearing. FSE (old) would occasionally stutter on pans. FSE (new) was nearly completely unusable.
At this point I'd more suspect that there are just some odd-ball NVIDIA architectures, namely G8x & G9x which behave quite differently compared to G7x, GT2xx, GF1xx with madVR. That's just speculation though, but it's as good a guess as any. After-all, you have a G8x, and madshi was using a G9x (9600 GT) as his NVIDIA test GPU when he was coding the FSE modes (old and new). It still continues to amaze me how often people come up with completely different madVR settings they find work the best. Too many unknown variables, not enough data. |
26th March 2012, 04:48 | #12886 | Link |
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I think in a way it is (at least the nvidia part), it all depends on your flush settings. Dont flush, Dont flush, Dont flush,Flush and wait (sleep) is probably the best settings with the new render path, on my system set like that the new and old paths preform the same for my nvidia cards.
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As for settings for exact timings, it depends on so many factors it's not worth suggesting anything. You just have to play around with it.
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Because if it's true there's no way to confirm that the playback is rock solid or not ...
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26th March 2012, 21:10 | #12889 | Link |
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I get perfect playback on my NVIDIA with the new FSE, it just needs some patience to find the proper settings. This is only on Win7, and only with Fermi series cards. The only real problem with the new FSE is now with the new 300 series driver where it just doesn't work at all, but before that it worked just perfectly fine.
Windowed Mode without Aero would show Tearing during the first few minutes of a movie until it properly locked onto the VSync, with Aero it worked mostly fine. Never really compared old FSE because new worked just fine for me. Of course there is always the possibility of some hidden issues (possibly also repeated frames, which madVR doesn't track), but i also had my fair share of problems with madVR on an ATI/AMD system, so its not really the universal solution to just switch.
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(player, splitter, decoder, aero on/off, driver settings (default/custom), madvr settings) Thank you!
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Who really knows, it could just be variations among different CPU architectures and motherboard chipsets, stranger things have happened. DPC and other types of latency can certainly vary widely from computer to computer. I'd also expect QueryPerformanceCounter readings could show slight accuracy differences among different architectures, especially in cases of bad BIOS/Chipset implementations. Quote:
Note: In case it's noteworthy, I have never used HDMI or 23.976Hz refresh rate on any of my setups. Always DVI and higher multiple refresh rates like 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz. Last edited by cyberbeing; 27th March 2012 at 09:30. |
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Regarding refresh rates, i did observe that running on high refresh rates increases the chance of playback problems with some configurations. 24p playback at 23.976Hz seems mostly fine, at the same time playing 25p at 50Hz had some minor glitches in the same config. Doubt HDMI vs DVI would make such a big difference, but then my TV doesn't have DVI.
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My GTX 680 findings with NVIDIA WHQL driver 301.10. Windows 7 X64 SP1. Connected to 63" Samsung Plasma using hdmi.
Had to do the inf fix for 0-255 rgb before install. Madvr gave a blank picture (all black) if "use a separate device for presentation (Vista / Windows 7 only)" was checked. When that was unchecked everything worked as normal |
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So exclusively for Image Quality, if I am running 1080p bluray files, there is no IQ difference using an ATI, NVIDIA card or CPU even for as long as all settings are the same? I am trying to understand if the benefits of using a Nvidia card with hardware decoding is mostly for applying filters and the likes when upconverting files.
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Using hardware decoding has no impact on image quality. |
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I was about to get a gtx460 for cuvid but if I am not going to improve my IQ at all then no point since performance wise, it runs perfectly smooth at ~47.956 for my projector. Thanks |
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27th March 2012, 20:47 | #12897 | Link |
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If you use DXVA native, then you don't use madVR.
In that case, using madVR could potentially improve quality (on 1080p the difference is much smaller then when upscaling, though)
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Ok well, I do have a gts 250 on my main computer. I can put it on my HTPC to see if it makes a difference as a test. Thanks for the information! |
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27th March 2012, 21:01 | #12899 | Link |
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Note that when you choose "DXVA2 (native)" in LAV Video, you will still use madVR. It's just that LAV will automatically fall back to pure software decoding. Players like MPC-HC allow you to see which filters are actually being used (if you can't identify the distinctive madVR OSD). Also madVR will display a tray icon when in use by default.
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