Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > Capturing and Editing Video > Avisynth Development
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12th July 2010, 16:19   #841  |  Link
G_M_C
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,076
From this thread: SEt's Avisynth 2.5.8 MT compiled for *X86_64*, Latest Build 4/16/2010

I found that there is a 64 bit verion available of fft3dgpu. But it is also mentioned that (quote)
Quote:
note:The hlsl (shader program) file is edited from the original to adhere to pixel shader 3.0 syntax rules.
I've take this PS3.0 HSL file, and i have been using it with fft3Dgpu version 0.82 (i installed 0.82, and copied the "new" hsl file over the original one). It seems to work, and i have the idea that it is much faster than the original HSL. At least on my HD5770.

Can someone confirm you can simply "update" the HSL on the original 32-bit fft3dgpu, without errors or problems ?
G_M_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th July 2010, 18:03   #842  |  Link
Hiritsuki
Novice of AVS
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 156
Wow!! thanks G_M_C, I will test it on 32-bit fft3dgpu tomorow
if it's usable, it's help me alot of encode time.
__________________
My PC
Hiritsuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th July 2010, 18:01   #843  |  Link
Hiritsuki
Novice of AVS
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 156
To G_M_C
it's can be used on 32-bit fft3dgpu
but I don't know it's faster or slower than original hlsl.
__________________
My PC
Hiritsuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2010, 10:00   #844  |  Link
G_M_C
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,076
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiritsuki View Post
To G_M_C
it's can be used on 32-bit fft3dgpu
but I don't know it's faster or slower than original hlsl.
I've tested and you are right;

AviSynth test file
Code:
DirectShowSource("ïnput_1080p.grf",fps=23.976,audio=false) \ (grf opens blu-ray m2ts with CoreAVC2.0, output YV12)

fft3dgpu(precision=2,plane=???,bw=32,bh=32,ow=16,oh=16)

AssumeFPS (24000,1001)
Plane=4
HSL2.0 12.8~12.9 fps
HSL3.0 13.0~13.1 fps

Plane 1 & 3
HSL2.0 and HSL3.0 scored almost equal; 23.8 fps

This on my machine;
QX9650 @ non-OC 9x333 for fair comparison with other users
Ati HD5770 @ non-OC
XP 32-SP3

Last edited by G_M_C; 14th July 2010 at 10:02.
G_M_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2010, 10:48   #845  |  Link
Boulder
Pig on the wing
 
Boulder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Finland
Posts: 5,733
Could you please run a comparison against FFT3DFilter with same settings?
__________________
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon...
Boulder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2010, 11:48   #846  |  Link
Hiritsuki
Novice of AVS
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by G_M_C View Post
I've tested and you are right;

AviSynth test file
Code:
DirectShowSource("ïnput_1080p.grf",fps=23.976,audio=false) \ (grf opens blu-ray m2ts with CoreAVC2.0, output YV12)

fft3dgpu(precision=2,plane=???,bw=32,bh=32,ow=16,oh=16)

AssumeFPS (24000,1001)
Plane=4
HSL2.0 12.8~12.9 fps
HSL3.0 13.0~13.1 fps

Plane 1 & 3
HSL2.0 and HSL3.0 scored almost equal; 23.8 fps

This on my machine;
QX9650 @ non-OC 9x333 for fair comparison with other users
Ati HD5770 @ non-OC
XP 32-SP3
Wow! I also test it, but I use no Plane to run it.
My video frame size is 1920*1080.

fft3dgpu() # used original to run

HSL2.0 15.7~16.4fps
HSL3.0 16.1~16.6fps

This on my PC
i7-980X @ oc 200*21
nVidia GTX275 @ oc 800-1680-1200
Win7 64bit (use with 32-bit avisynth)
__________________
My PC

Last edited by Hiritsuki; 14th July 2010 at 11:53.
Hiritsuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2010, 12:05   #847  |  Link
G_M_C
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,076
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiritsuki View Post
Wow! I also test it, but I use no Plane to run it.
My video frame size is 1920*1080.

fft3dgpu() # used original to run

HSL2.0 15.7~16.4fps
HSL3.0 16.1~16.6fps

This on my PC
i7-980X @ oc 200*21
nVidia GTX275 @ oc 800-1680-1200
Win7 64bit (use with 32-bit avisynth)
fft3dgpu(), default uses plane=1 afaik

@Boulder, i'll set it up.
G_M_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2010, 16:27   #848  |  Link
Hiritsuki
Novice of AVS
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 156
Tomorow I will use new graphic card to run this test.
Is the MSI N465GTX TwinFrozer Gold Edtion (can update bios to GTX470).
Think that will more difference with HSL2.0 to HSL3.0.
__________________
My PC
Hiritsuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th July 2010, 17:52   #849  |  Link
Hiritsuki
Novice of AVS
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 156
I had try GTX465 to run this and find a result is HSL2.0 or 3.0 is can't run more than more faster in new Graphic Card than this FFT3DGPU devlop time.
Old Graphic Card that like 6600GT or 7600GT is the FFT3DGPU devlop time.
If HSL 4.0 or 5.0 or framework for renovation maybe run more than more faster.

New test below

My video frame size is 1920*1080.

fft3dgpu() # used original to run

HSL2.0 16.1~16.4fps
HSL3.0 16.5~16.7fps

This on my PC
i7-980X @ oc 200*21
nVidia GTX465 @ oc 800-1680-1000
Win7 64bit (use with 32-bit avisynth)
__________________
My PC
Hiritsuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th August 2010, 02:54   #850  |  Link
Hiritsuki
Novice of AVS
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 156
Anyone used NVperf?
Who can tell me what this effect is?
__________________
My PC
Hiritsuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2010, 15:12   #851  |  Link
Chabb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ukraine
Posts: 32
Could somebody help with such bug in fft3dgpu?

It started since I've changed 8800GT to GTX460
All other things remains the same:
OS (WinXP SP3), video driver (258.96), fft3dgpu and avisynth (2.5.8) versions
It occurs not every time, mainly with HD sources.
Sometimes reboot helps.
Is it driver issue or something else?
Chabb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th August 2010, 14:40   #852  |  Link
Sharktooth
Mr. Sandman
 
Sharktooth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Haddonfield, IL
Posts: 11,768
probably a driver issue
Sharktooth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2010, 17:43   #853  |  Link
Beak
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 127
This is probably a dumb question but I am curious.

I have a Radeon 5770, Core clock is 860Mhz and the memory 1200Mhz.
I have a i720 quad core O/c to 3.6.

I can run fft3dfilter in any MT mode I can think of and still get no more than 9 frames per second on HD encodes ie 1280P.

With fft3dgpu I get up to 18fps with the same settings.

FFT3dGPU(sigma=2.0, bt=4, bw=32, bh=32, ow=16, oh=16)
MT("""LSFmod(smode=5)""", threads=4, overlap=8)

How is this possible? Not complaining, just curious.
Beak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2010, 02:54   #854  |  Link
Assassinator
Registered User
 
Assassinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beak View Post
I can run fft3dfilter in any MT mode I can think of and still get no more than 9 frames per second on HD encodes ie 1280P.

With fft3dgpu I get up to 18fps with the same settings.
The key word is "encode".

Ok, are you actually testing the speed of an encode, or are you simply testing the speed of the avs script.

If you are encoding it, it should be pretty obvious. Because fft3dfilter needs to share the CPU with x264 (slowing both down), while fft3dGPU does not (so x264 gets pretty much all the CPU). This is the main reason why people use fft3dgpu at all.
Assassinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2010, 03:43   #855  |  Link
Beak
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Assassinator View Post
The key word is "encode".

Ok, are you actually testing the speed of an encode, or are you simply testing the speed of the avs script.

If you are encoding it, it should be pretty obvious. Because fft3dfilter needs to share the CPU with x264 (slowing both down), while fft3dGPU does not (so x264 gets pretty much all the CPU). This is the main reason why people use fft3dgpu at all.
Of course. But it is still only 1 thread on an 860 Mhz processor. Is there a different math language used by a GPU?

If just playing the script without GPU I cannot reach same speeds with 8 virtual cores at 3.6 gig.
Beak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2010, 10:58   #856  |  Link
Assassinator
Registered User
 
Assassinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beak View Post
Of course. But it is still only 1 thread on an 860 Mhz processor. Is there a different math language used by a GPU?
1 thread? Try 500 threads. You shouldn't even be comparing thead counts when talking about CPU vs GPU. They are so different it's meaningless.

And ofcourse CPU (x264) +GPU (fft3dGPU) will be faster than CPU alone (x264 + fft3dfilter). That makes sense, no? (Only way that wouldn't work is if you have a GPU bottleneck, which isn't the case here).

Try testing fft3dfilter vs fft3dGPU WITHOUT any encoding. That is, just the script, no x264/xvid/whatever.

Last edited by Assassinator; 20th October 2010 at 14:47.
Assassinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd October 2010, 07:00   #857  |  Link
woah!
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 435
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chabb View Post
Could somebody help with such bug in fft3dgpu?

It started since I've changed 8800GT to GTX460
All other things remains the same:
OS (WinXP SP3), video driver (258.96), fft3dgpu and avisynth (2.5.8) versions
It occurs not every time, mainly with HD sources.
Sometimes reboot helps.
Is it driver issue or something else?
i get this now, upgraded from a 260gtx to a 460gtx.

seems the betas nvidia drivers dont fix this either... works after a reboot can open script many times in a row with no issue. then i open videoredo and edit a mpeg2 hd source and save. now without doing anythind more, open avs script and get the same as the pics show above?

weird stuff...

Last edited by woah!; 23rd October 2010 at 07:25.
woah! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd November 2010, 03:37   #858  |  Link
Beak
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 127
Can anyone comment on whether there would be any visible difference between precision=0 vs precision 2 with this filter?

I can see nothing but my TV is not really the best.
Beak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th November 2010, 00:39   #859  |  Link
ianken
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by G_M_C View Post
From this thread: SEt's Avisynth 2.5.8 MT compiled for *X86_64*, Latest Build 4/16/2010

I found that there is a 64 bit verion available of fft3dgpu. But it is also mentioned that (quote)


I've take this PS3.0 HSL file, and i have been using it with fft3Dgpu version 0.82 (i installed 0.82, and copied the "new" hsl file over the original one). It seems to work, and i have the idea that it is much faster than the original HSL. At least on my HD5770.

Can someone confirm you can simply "update" the HSL on the original 32-bit fft3dgpu, without errors or problems ?
Is this available somewhere other than mediafire? I am unable to download from them and it'll be a cold day in hell before I disable the popup blocker on that place. I made that mistake ONCE. You have to task kill your browser to get it back from those assklowns.
  Reply With Quote
Old 27th November 2010, 01:18   #860  |  Link
Didée
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Germany
Posts: 5,391
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianken View Post
somewhere other than mediafire? I am unable to download from them and it'll be a cold day in hell before I disable the popup blocker on that place.
You should configure the blocker to block only popups. Not the whole Internet! (I've no proplems to DL from MediaFire, and there's not one single popup ...)

Here it is on MultiUpload. Hope you can DL from one of 'em without having to reinstall the OS.
__________________
- We´re at the beginning of the end of mankind´s childhood -

My little flickr gallery. (Yes indeed, I do have hobbies other than digital video!)
Didée is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 20:27.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.