mkvtoolnix 4.1.1 released - Page 54

Mosu · 6th July 2009, 21:35

I cannot reproduce this. I've created a chapter file with dvdxchap from ogmtools 1.5 which contains 36 entries. Then I've merged this file normally into a Matroska file (mkvmerge -o v.mkv v.avi --chapters chapters.txt). The resulting file also contains exactly 36 chapters:

Code:

[0 mosu@tionne /tmp] mkvinfo -v -v v.mkv | grep -i 'atom' | wc -l
36

Then I created a Matroska file without chapters (mkvmerge -o v.mkv v.avi) and used mmg's chapter editor's "save to Matroska file" function with the same chapters.txt file as before. The same result.

I don't know what MediaInfo thinks happens in that file or what exactly happens on your computer. How did you create that Matroska file?

Please re-check with mkvinfo. I don't trust other programs all that much in this regard.

What kind of a container format was your source file? If it was a MP4 file which in turn contained chapters (a single entry) then this might explain this behaviour. You can check this with "mkvmerge -i input.mp4".

microchip8 · 6th July 2009, 21:50

Hi Moritz,

I checked with mkvinfo and it's reported there as well. This is usually my mkvmerge command line

/usr/bin/mkvmerge --attachment-mime-type image/jpeg --attachment-name Cover --attach-file "/home/neutrino/cover.jpg" -A --title "The Bank Job" --track-name 0:"The Bank Job" "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.avi" --track-name 1:"HE-AACv1 Stereo" --language 1:en --aac-is-sbr 1:1 /home/neutrino/audio.aac --chapters "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.chaps" -o "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.mkv"

I only take the video from the AVI and an external audio encoded by neroAacEnc which both get muxed into mkv.

Code:

neutrino@neutrino:~> mkvinfo -v -v "The Bank Job.mkv" | grep -i 'atom' | wc -l
26

Mosu · 6th July 2009, 22:00

Upload the chapter file somewhere, please, or send me an email to moritz@bunkus.org

microchip8 · 6th July 2009, 22:04

Here it is http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wemmjcmomdo

btw, could it have something to do that I use -o as last instead of as first parameter? eg, mkvmerge blablabla -o output.mkv VS mkvmerge -o output.mkv blablabla

Mosu · 6th July 2009, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by froggy1

/usr/bin/mkvmerge --attachment-mime-type image/jpeg --attachment-name Cover --attach-file "/home/neutrino/cover.jpg" -A --title "The Bank Job" --track-name 0:"The Bank Job" "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.avi" --track-name 1:"HE-AACv1 Stereo" --language 1:en --aac-is-sbr 1:1 /home/neutrino/audio.aac --chapters "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.chaps" -o "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.mkv"

1. The audio track in an AAC file has the ID 0, not 1. All the parameters e.g. "--track-name 1:..." will do nothing at all. mkvmerge outputs a warning for that.

2. I still cannot reproduce the problem here with the chapter file you've uploaded. AVI files do not contain chapters (or mkvmerge doesn't support reading chapters from them). So I really don't know what's wrong here. You may upload the AVI file in question to my FTP server if you want, but if not then I cannot really help you. BTW, please post the output of 'mkvmerge --identify-verbose "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.avi"'.

Quote:

btw, could it have something to do that I use -o as last instead of as first parameter? eg, mkvmerge blablabla -o output.mkv VS mkvmerge -o output.mkv blablabla

3. No.

The following command line uses dummy files in place of your original ones, obviously:

Code:

[0 mosu@tionne ~/dl] mkvmerge --attachment-mime-type image/jpeg --attachment-name Cover --attach-file ~/files/Pictures/Desktop/gilmorewall.jpg -A --title "The Bank Job" --track-name 0:"The Bank Job" ~/prog/video/mkvtoolnix/data/v.avi --track-name 0:"HE-AACv1 Stereo" --language 0:en --aac-is-sbr 0:1 /ftp/.rip/mkv/qtmp4/aac/sbr/sample_44-2-16_HE_AAC.aac  --chapters "The Bank Job.txt" -o "The Bank Job.mkv"
...
[0 mosu@tionne ~/dl] mkvinfo -v -v The\ Bank\ Job.mkv| grep -i atom | wc -l
25

microchip8 · 6th July 2009, 22:35

Hi, Moritz

@1 - well, I tried both --track-name 0 and --track-name 1 on the audio.aac file and mkvmerge does not display a warning. All I see in both cases is this

Quote:

'The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi' track 0: Using the MPEG-4 part 10 ES video output module.
'audio.aac' track 1: Using the AAC output module.

@2 I can't upload the whole AVI file since I don't have it anymore (deleted after remuxing). However, I did encode just now the first chapter of the DVD using very fast settings and very low resolution, just for testing purposes and exported the chapters with dvdxchap (I can upload that and the chapters file in a minute). Then manually muxed everything and still I get 26 chaps instead of 25

as for the identify thing...

Code:

mkvmerge --identify-verbose "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi"
File '/home/neutrino/The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi': container: AVI
Track ID 0: video (h264) [packetizer:mpeg4_p10_es_video]
Track ID 1: audio (PCM)

Mosu · 6th July 2009, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by froggy1

Hi, Moritz

@1 - well, I tried both --track-name 0 and --track-name 1 on the audio.aac file and mkvmerge does not display a warning. All I see in both cases is this

Then you only have a single AVI file as an input file and not a separate AAC audio file. In any case your command line does not match what you're seeing at the moment as mkvmerge's output.

Quote:

@2 I can't upload the whole AVI file since I don't have it anymore (deleted after remuxing). However, I did encode just now the first chapter of the DVD using very fast settings and very low resolution, just for testing purposes and exported the chapters with dvdxchap (I can upload that and the chapters file in a minute). Then manually muxed everything and still I get 26 chaps instead of 25

A short AVI will be enough if it shows the same problem, but please upload all the files that are part of the remuxing process.

microchip8 · 6th July 2009, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosu

Then you only have a single AVI file as an input file and not a separate AAC audio file. In any case your command line does not match what you're seeing at the moment as mkvmerge's output.

Now I did get a warning though, but only when using --track-name 0 and --language 0. Everything set to 1 for audio.aac does not produce a warning and shows the track name and language specified while when using 0 (and getting a warning) no track name and language are shown by mediainfo

With --track-name 0 --language 0

Code:

mkvmerge -A The\ Bank\ Job\ -\ chapter\ 1-1.avi --track-name 0:"foobar" --language 0:en audio.aac -o output.mkv                                                              
mkvmerge v2.9.7 ('Tenderness') built on Jul  2 2009 03:11:06                                       
'The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi': Using the AVI demultiplexer. Opening file. This may take some time depending on the file's size.                                                                    
'audio.aac': Using the Quicktime/MP4 demultiplexer.                                                
'The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi' track 0: Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 313/176.                                 
'The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi' track 0: Using the MPEG-4 part 10 ES video output module.         
'audio.aac' track 1: Using the AAC output module.                                                  
Warning: 'audio.aac': A track with the ID 0 was requested but not found in the file. The corresponding option will be ignored.
The file 'output.mkv' has been opened for writing.
Progress: 100%
The cue entries (the index) are being written...
Muxing took 3 seconds.

With --track-name 1 --language 1

Code:

mkvmerge -A The\ Bank\ Job\ -\ chapter\ 1-1.avi --track-name 1:"foobar" --language 1:en audio.aac -o output.mkv
mkvmerge v2.9.7 ('Tenderness') built on Jul  2 2009 03:11:06
'The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi': Using the AVI demultiplexer. Opening file. This may take some time depending on the file's size.
'audio.aac': Using the Quicktime/MP4 demultiplexer.
'The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi' track 0: Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 313/176.
'The Bank Job - chapter 1-1.avi' track 0: Using the MPEG-4 part 10 ES video output module.
'audio.aac' track 1: Using the AAC output module.
The file 'output.mkv' has been opened for writing.
Progress: 100%
The cue entries (the index) are being written...
Muxing took 6 seconds.

Also, even if no chapters file is added, mkvmerge still creates that very same chapters entry and each time it has a value of 00:00:00.097

Quote:

A short AVI will be enough if it shows the same problem, but please upload all the files that are part of the remuxing process.

Yes, doing it now. I'll upload the AVI, chapters file, audio.aac file and the muxed mkv file so you can see the chapters entries. Since you can't reproduce it on your side, I begin in thinking that it's on my machine somehow and not mkvmerge's fault

Mosu · 6th July 2009, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by froggy1

Code:

'audio.aac': Using the Quicktime/MP4 demultiplexer.

You can stop the upload(s). The audio.aac file is actually a MP4 file and not a raw AAC file. That's why the track ID starts at 1 for you and not at 0, and that's probably where the lone chapter entry comes from. Reading chapters from MP4 files is a rather new feature, that's why you don't see the problem with older versions.

You can verify this with "mkvmerge -i audio.aac"; it should show chapters. You can turn off copying chapters from that file with the "--no-chapters" option, e.g. "mkvmerge -o ... --no-chapters audio.aac".

You'd better rename the file to audio.mp4, too

microchip8 · 6th July 2009, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosu

You can stop the upload(s). The audio.aac file is actually a MP4 file and not a raw AAC file. That's why the track ID starts at 1 for you and not at 0, and that's probably where the lone chapter entry comes from. Reading chapters from MP4 files is a rather new feature, that's why you don't see the problem with older versions.

You can verify this with "mkvmerge -i audio.aac"; it should show chapters. You can turn off copying chapters from that file with the "--no-chapters" option, e.g. "mkvmerge -o ... --no-chapters audio.aac".

You'd better rename the file to audio.mp4, too

Ahhh, now it's so clear. Yes indeed, neroAacEnc wraps the audio in mp4 and I didn't think of that so it was user "error" on my part

I'll be using --no-chapters in the future then. Thanks for the great support

Mosu · 6th July 2009, 23:17

You're welcome.

sneaker_ger · 7th July 2009, 23:30

I've probably found another small bug in the native mpeg4 part 2 muxing. I'd advise everyone to wait until Mosu has taken a look at it before remuxing your files.

Chumbo · 8th July 2009, 00:51

I tried adding a PCM file but it keeps thinking it's an h.264/avc MPEG4 part 10 elementary stream. Here's the eac3to info for the file.

Code:

eac3to v3.16
command line: eac3to  audio.pcm -log=pcm.info.txt
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This might be a RAW/PCM file. Trying to figure out the details.
This will probably take a while. Please be patient...
The RAW/PCM file seems to be big endian.
The RAW/PCM file seems to have a bitdepth of 16 bits.
The RAW/PCM file seems to have 6 channels.
RAW/PCM, 5.1 channels, 0:00:47, 16 bits, 4608kbps, 48khz

I'm still using 2.9.5 right now.

Mosu · 8th July 2009, 08:27

Raw PCM files are not supported and never will be.

Tima · 8th July 2009, 10:59

I have two files:

1. a.mkv with one ASS track and 3 attaches fonts.
2. b.ass

Look at the following sequence:

1. add a and b into mmg
2. uncheck ASS track (from a.mkv)
3. remux the result into c.mks

After this sequence I get c.mks without attached fonts.
Don't think it's intended behaviour.

This workaround works ok:

1. add a and b into mmg
2. remux the result into t.mks
3. reset mmg; add t.mks
4. uncheck old ASS track
5. remux the result into c.mks

If this description isn't enough, I can provide all necessary test files

sneaker_ger · 8th July 2009, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tima

I have two files:

1. a.mkv with one ASS track and 3 attaches fonts.
2. b.ass

Look at the following sequence:

1. add a and b into mmg
2. uncheck ASS track (from a.mkv)
3. remux the result into c.mks

After this sequence I get c.mks without attached fonts.
Don't think it's intended behavior.

This workaround works ok:

1. add a and b into mmg
2. remux the result into t.mks
3. reset mmg; add t.mks
4. uncheck old ASS track
5. remux the result into c.mks

If this description isn't enough, I can provide all necessary test files

I can't reproduce it here so you may want to upload your samples.

Mosu · 8th July 2009, 13:44

You might also make sure that you're testing this with mkvtoolnix 2.9.7 as I have changed the way that "track-less" files are handled in one of the latest releases due to the change how mmg presents attachments, chapters and tags present in source files.

Tima · 8th July 2009, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosu

You might also make sure that you're testing this with mkvtoolnix 2.9.7 as I have changed the way that "track-less" files are handled in one of the latest releases due to the change how mmg presents attachments, chapters and tags present in source files.

Yes, its, 2.9.7.

Samples:
http://nwfiles.gorodok.net/a.mkv
http://nwfiles.gorodok.net/b.ass

sneaker_ger · 8th July 2009, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tima

Yes, its, 2.9.7.

Samples:
http://nwfiles.gorodok.net/a.mkv
http://nwfiles.gorodok.net/b.ass

OK, now I get the same behavior. It always happens when trying to only copy the attachments, but no track.

Chumbo · 8th July 2009, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosu

Raw PCM files are not supported and never will be.

Thanks for the info. May I ask why if you don't mind? I'm curious.

6th July 2009, 21:35	#1061 \| Link
Mosu MKVToolNix author Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 4,281	I cannot reproduce this. I've created a chapter file with dvdxchap from ogmtools 1.5 which contains 36 entries. Then I've merged this file normally into a Matroska file (mkvmerge -o v.mkv v.avi --chapters chapters.txt). The resulting file also contains exactly 36 chapters: Code: [0 mosu@tionne /tmp] mkvinfo -v -v v.mkv \| grep -i 'atom' \| wc -l 36 Then I created a Matroska file without chapters (mkvmerge -o v.mkv v.avi) and used mmg's chapter editor's "save to Matroska file" function with the same chapters.txt file as before. The same result. I don't know what MediaInfo thinks happens in that file or what exactly happens on your computer. How did you create that Matroska file? Please re-check with mkvinfo. I don't trust other programs all that much in this regard. What kind of a container format was your source file? If it was a MP4 file which in turn contained chapters (a single entry) then this might explain this behaviour. You can check this with "mkvmerge -i input.mp4". __________________ Latest MKVToolNix is v83.0 If I ever ask you to upload something, please use my file server.

6th July 2009, 21:50	#1062 \| Link
microchip8 ffx264/ffhevc author Join Date: May 2007 Location: /dev/video0 Posts: 1,844	Hi Moritz, I checked with mkvinfo and it's reported there as well. This is usually my mkvmerge command line /usr/bin/mkvmerge --attachment-mime-type image/jpeg --attachment-name Cover --attach-file "/home/neutrino/cover.jpg" -A --title "The Bank Job" --track-name 0:"The Bank Job" "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.avi" --track-name 1:"HE-AACv1 Stereo" --language 1:en --aac-is-sbr 1:1 /home/neutrino/audio.aac --chapters "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.chaps" -o "/home/neutrino/The Bank Job.mkv" I only take the video from the AVI and an external audio encoded by neroAacEnc which both get muxed into mkv. Code: neutrino@neutrino:~> mkvinfo -v -v "The Bank Job.mkv" \| grep -i 'atom' \| wc -l 26 __________________ ffx264 \|\| ffhevc \|\| ffxvid \|\| microenc

6th July 2009, 22:00	#1063 \| Link
Mosu MKVToolNix author Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 4,281	Upload the chapter file somewhere, please, or send me an email to moritz@bunkus.org __________________ Latest MKVToolNix is v83.0 If I ever ask you to upload something, please use my file server.

6th July 2009, 22:04	#1064 \| Link
microchip8 ffx264/ffhevc author Join Date: May 2007 Location: /dev/video0 Posts: 1,844	Here it is http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wemmjcmomdo btw, could it have something to do that I use -o as last instead of as first parameter? eg, mkvmerge blablabla -o output.mkv VS mkvmerge -o output.mkv blablabla __________________ ffx264 \|\| ffhevc \|\| ffxvid \|\| microenc

6th July 2009, 23:17	#1071 \| Link
Mosu MKVToolNix author Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 4,281	You're welcome. __________________ Latest MKVToolNix is v83.0 If I ever ask you to upload something, please use my file server.

7th July 2009, 23:30	#1072 \| Link
sneaker_ger Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,565	I've probably found another small bug in the native mpeg4 part 2 muxing. I'd advise everyone to wait until Mosu has taken a look at it before remuxing your files.

8th July 2009, 08:27	#1074 \| Link
Mosu MKVToolNix author Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 4,281	Raw PCM files are not supported and never will be. __________________ Latest MKVToolNix is v83.0 If I ever ask you to upload something, please use my file server.

8th July 2009, 10:59	#1075 \| Link
Tima Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Russia, Novosibirsk Posts: 176	attachment loss after remuxing I have two files: 1. a.mkv with one ASS track and 3 attaches fonts. 2. b.ass Look at the following sequence: 1. add a and b into mmg 2. uncheck ASS track (from a.mkv) 3. remux the result into c.mks After this sequence I get c.mks without attached fonts. Don't think it's intended behaviour. This workaround works ok: 1. add a and b into mmg 2. remux the result into t.mks 3. reset mmg; add t.mks 4. uncheck old ASS track 5. remux the result into c.mks If this description isn't enough, I can provide all necessary test files

8th July 2009, 13:44	#1077 \| Link
Mosu MKVToolNix author Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Posts: 4,281	You might also make sure that you're testing this with mkvtoolnix 2.9.7 as I have changed the way that "track-less" files are handled in one of the latest releases due to the change how mmg presents attachments, chapters and tags present in source files. __________________ Latest MKVToolNix is v83.0 If I ever ask you to upload something, please use my file server.

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