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Old 13th October 2015, 23:28   #19761  |  Link
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nevcairiel,

Have you been able to look into the issue I reported earlier (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=19772)? Is there a bug tracker where I should report these issues?

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Old 14th October 2015, 09:36   #19762  |  Link
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nevcairiel,

Have you been able to look into the issue I reported earlier (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=19772)? Is there a bug tracker where I should report these issues?

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Something weird is going on with that sample. I'll check.

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Should hopefully be fixed in the next version.
Note that ASS in AVI is a giant hack and you should really consider using MKV instead.
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Old 14th October 2015, 09:46   #19763  |  Link
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Have you been able to look into the issue I reported earlier (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=19772)? Is there a bug tracker where I should report these issues?
Works fine here, after dropping the avi file into mkvtoolnix and simply remuxing it to mkv. Playing the avi: No subs. Playing the mkv: Subs work fine with both ISR and XySubFilter. Which means it's probably the avi splitter dropping the ball here.
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Old 14th October 2015, 13:05   #19764  |  Link
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Its not intended as such, but just how it is for now. Its a known limitation and will be addressed in the future. A sample file might help.
Here you go: Sample

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Old 14th October 2015, 19:47   #19765  |  Link
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hi nevcairiel

sorry for delay, but i have no time for uploading the whole dvd.

I get a new DVD - Homeland season 3 disk 1. Riped to disk with anydvd(no special settings) and the same behavior like Aliens DVD.

No buttons on the screen visible.

With Arcsoft TMT5 play fine.
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Old 14th October 2015, 20:16   #19766  |  Link
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You can upload the DVD without the big VOB files. It does not matter that you can't play it anymore. Nevcairiel can use dummy files if needed.
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The menu should still be functional without the big VOBs, if its not its a weird DVD, and not sure I can do anything about it.
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Old 14th October 2015, 20:53   #19768  |  Link
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Homeland and Aliens DVD's without big vobs

Homleland
Homeland S3D1

Aliens

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Is there a ffmpeg build existing with nvdec (cuvid) support ?

your cuda decoder in lav decoder is already 0 copy right ?

http://www.qtav.org/blog/cuda_0_copy.html
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Any chance of getting a 3.1 down mix in the mixer? The 4.0 down mix seems to be for a quad system, not a 3.1 system or am I missing something?
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Somewhere before (possibly in madVR?) I read that CUVID is obsolete because it won't support 10 bit depth etc.
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NVCUVID was more the name for the Shader decoder part that surely is obsolete with the SIP Block NVCUVENC became NVENC but not sure.
I never understood that they renamed the Encoder part but left the Decoder part named NVCUVID and not NVDEC only guess is because of the so close to the CUDA part of the Decoder.

Under Windows 10 i would guess Microsoft want's the monopoly with DXVA2 also because of secure path considerations in the trusted zone of it and easier managing you dont make Secure Boot mandatory for nothing

So i guess IHVs own HW APIs under Windows 10 will come to an end.
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Is there a ffmpeg build existing with nvdec (cuvid) support ?
I don't distribute ffmpeg builds outside of the libraries I use for LAV, so clearly this is the wrong place to ask anything like that.

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your cuda decoder in lav decoder is already 0 copy right ?
If you want zero copy, use DXVA2-Native, its the only way to do that with DirectShow.

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Under Windows 10 i would guess Microsoft want's the monopoly with DXVA2, something platform independent is surely nothing they want
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Having a standardized interface for accelerated decoding that works with all vendors is just pure awesome. Make it work on DXVA2, and it works for NVIDIA, AMD and Intel. Talk to any Linux developer where they have to implement one API for every GPU vendor, its absolute pain.
On top of that, DXVA2 is actually documented quite well - not something you can say for about all the Linux things.

A "cross platform" interface would only ever go so far anyway, on Windows you want D3D, on Linux you obviously can't use D3D, so you end up with something different anyway.
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Of course nevcariel that's convenient Sauron thought the same way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp7xHW-JcKk

With Low Level APIs this could change and Vulkan runs on Windows as well it doesn't need D3D except for the presentation
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Somewhere before (possibly in madVR?) I read that CUVID is obsolete because it won't support 10 bit depth etc.
there are more reasons. CUVID forces the GPU in the highest powerstate. that's pretty bad when one point of hardware decoding is lower power consumption...

it's the same decoder as DXVA and DXVA native is just faster.
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Then try to lower the power output yourself on Video Playback and be surprised
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or i just use DXVA and have nothing to do...
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if you think its always efficient

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...84#post1741284
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what should i see there? the GM204 doesn't even have a fixed function HEVC decoder.
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Small spikes like that have no impact on the video playback. The renderer will buffer a couple video frames and present them using VSYNC, that way small "glitches" just vanish.
If a renderer would need a 100% smooth video stream, 90% of all video would look terribly stuttery.

If you think boosting your GPU to P0 for video playback helps smoothness, then by all means, there are easier ways to do that than force usage of CUVID.

In any case, CUVID is dead, and I might even remove it from LAV at some point. At the very least I'll likely disable it on Windows 10, because NVIDIA broke half of its functionality anyway and the remaining parts can easily bug out - not to mention lack of 10-bit support.

Thats not Microsoft promoting DXVA2, thats NVIDIA not fixing their API. NVIDIA has superb DXVA2 support though, full 10-bit and everything.

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CUVID just used DXVA2 on the driver side anyway, it was just another API to plug CUDA interoperability on top of the DXVA video decoder.
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