Guide to convert BD 3D to 3D Left+Right Stereoscopic and Anaglyph

[r0lZ]

vanden, thanks for the precision, but it's useless for my GUI. I need a combined.h264 file that can be processed by the current version of DirectShowMVCSource, not by stereoscopic player. As far as I know, I need to use CombineMVC. In other words, your finding is interesting, but I would like to do exactly the opposite: convert a h264 combined stream made with MakeMKV to something equivalent to what CombineMVC produces. That seems impossible currently. Or have I missed something?

Of course, it would be better if DirectShowMVCSource could open the combined h264 produced by MakeMKV (or preferably the MKV file containing it). It it is sufficient to use the Matroska Splitter, that should be possible. But the new DirectShowMVCSource should support well the two methods, as MakeMKV is not free.

[samfednik]

Originally Posted by r0lZ

as MakeMKV is not free.

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053

[r0lZ]

Thanks. I did know that "beta free" thing, but anyway, it will be payware one day.

[vanden]

I understood why StereoscopicPlayer (with filters by default) does not work with files CombineMVC : this is a problem with stf.dll.

With DirectShowSource we have the same problem when using stf.dll :
LoadPlugin("DirectShowMVCSource.dll")
video = DirectShowMVCSource("CombinedMVC.m2ts", stf=16)
AssumeFPS(video, 24000, 1001)
return video
Does not work ! While this script works :
LoadPlugin ("DirectShowMVCSource.dll")
left = DirectShowMVCSource("CombinedMVC.m2ts", decodeleft=true)
right = DirectShowMVCSource("CombinedMVC.m2ts")
video = StackHorizontal(left, right)
return video
With a file .SSIF, both scripts work properly !

Another discovery muxer combined raw stream created by combineMVC in a mkv containair with mkvmerge : This damages Combined raw stream !

1. create raw combined stream (with combinemvc)
you can test this combined raw stream with Mainconcept/Sonic filters :

2. Mux it with mkvtoolnix.
3. Demux with tsMuxer or mkvextract or eac3to.
4. verify that combined raw stream is no longer readable with MainConcept filters :






Mux in .m2ts (Combined raw stream created by combinemvc) demux with tsMuxeR or eac3, the Combined raw stream does not damaged .

[r0lZ]

Originally Posted by vanden

I understood why StereoscopicPlayer (with filters by default) does not work with files CombineMVC : this is a problem with stf.dll.

That was already known, as you can see here:

Originally Posted by Neisklar

The Plugin is now capable of opening .m2ts (or other MPEG Transportstreams) files, with an single combined MVC stream.
BUT: when using such a file, the STF will NOT work (even the StereoPlayer won't play it), so you need to do it this way for example:

LoadPlugin ("DirectShowMVCSource.dll")
left = DirectShowMVCSource("combined.m2ts", decodeleft=true)
right = DirectShowMVCSource("combined.m2ts")

video = StackHorizontal(left, right).BilinearResize(1920, 1080)

return video

[vanden]

Originally Posted by r0lZ

That was already known, as you can see here:

Sorry I had not seen ! So I confirm !

[frencher]

Originally Posted by vanden

It is necessary to force "DirectShowMVCSource", to use "MatroskaSplitter.dll" (of sereoscopicplaver> = 1.9.6) instead of "MPEGSplitter.dll" ...

"MatroskaSplitter.dll" for *.mkv
"MPEGSplitter.dll" for *.ts, *.mts, *.m2ts

[Sharc]

@r0lz
It would be handy to get the option of muxing the files into blu-ray structure after encoding, rather than mkv only, because some (2D-)blu-ray standalones reject to play mkv.
(It can be done with little manual work now, so no high priority, just for convenience)

[r0lZ]

Not sure why you want to convert a BD to a BD! IMO, if you want a backup, you should just copy the original BD. You want a backup for a 2D BD player?

Also, honestly, I don't know how to create the BD structure. Creating a MKV is easy, and I can probably create a M2TS instead, but that's not a BD structure. My program is a GUI only, and if that can be done easily with an existing CLI tool, I may have a look, but I don't want to write that from scratch.

[moamoa]

Originally Posted by r0lZ

I see. Anyway, if eac3to fails when it tries to retrieve the stream information for the selected MPLS, that means that something is wrong with your BD or ISO.
(The error of your 3th screenshot is caused by the missing stream information, but is not relevant. It should not happen with a valid BD.)

I haven't tried to process a MakeMKV backup yet. Still busy, but I should have some time tomorrow...

Any joy? Does this look possible?

[r0lZ]

@moamoa: Read the thread, and your PMs.

[Sharc]

Originally Posted by r0lZ

Not sure why you want to convert a BD to a BD! IMO, if you want a backup, you should just copy the original BD. You want a backup for a 2D BD player?

Also, honestly, I don't know how to create the BD structure. Creating a MKV is easy, and I can probably create a M2TS instead, but that's not a BD structure. My program is a GUI only, and if that can be done easily with an existing CLI tool, I may have a look, but I don't want to write that from scratch.

Well, I want for example to convert & compress the main movie of an original 3D BD to an SBS, TB or anaglyph BD5 which - when in BD format - can be played on any 2D standalone BD player and watched on my legacy 2D (anaglyph) or any 3D (SBS, TB) TV or projector. It works perfectly.

The creation of a BD structure is easy: TSMuxer (CLI) has Blu-ray as an option. Just check its GUI

[frencher]

How create mkv (AVC/MVC),

From MakeMKV program folder

My BD is John Carter 3D

Scan BD infos

makemkvcon.exe -r --cache=1 info disc:9999 32 bit
makemkvcon64.exe -r --cache=1 info disc:9999 64 bit

My disc is disc:2

Remux directly to MKV 3D by title 3 (00800.mpls = title 3)

makemkvcon.exe mkv --progress=-same disc:2 3 "F:\Temp\John Carter" 32 bit
makemkvcon64.exe mkv --progress=-same disc:2 3 "F:\Temp\John Carter" 64 bit

Download => makemkvcon.rar (If don't works, please install MakeMKV)

I dream of:
- Update of "DirectShowMVCSource.dll" with audio support and "CombineMVC.exe"
- MKV 3D Seekable
- Subtitles and forced subtitles
- Chapters
- Update of eac3to

Enjoy

[r0lZ]

What is that makemkvcon command supposed to do, and how can it be useful to us?

[frencher]

Originally Posted by r0lZ

What is that makemkvcon command supposed to do, and how can it be useful to us?

ISO is a large MKV 3D structure is kept AVC/MVC and everything needed. (Chapters Languages)
Fewer problems with several cutoff .SSIF
100% Compatible with "Stereoscopic Player" and seekable
Faster than "CombineMVC" and does not require remux.
And more .....
Easy Export to pipe with recode on a fly
Developers Tutorial here

[r0lZ]

OK, I suppose you were replying to this post:

Originally Posted by Sharc

@r0lz
It would be handy to get the option of muxing the files into blu-ray structure after encoding, rather than mkv only, because some (2D-)blu-ray standalones reject to play mkv.
(It can be done with little manual work now, so no high priority, just for convenience)

But if I understand correctly, Sharc wants a way to create a BD with an Anaglyph, SBS or TB conversion, not with AVC/MVC streams, compatible only with 3D BD players.

[frencher]

Originally Posted by vanden

It is necessary to force "DirectShowMVCSource", to use "MatroskaSplitter.dll" (of sereoscopicplaver> = 1.9.6) instead of "MPEGSplitter.dll" ...

If "DirectShowMVCSource.dll" is updated everything is possible

[frencher]

"MVC Player Free v0.0.1.1" In my signature...

Extract and run directly MVC Player Free.exe or play associated file with MVC Player Free.exe

# Added: Full Recode with x264 1 & 2 pass and custom preset (output > .mkv)
# Added: Auto-switch of some compatible 3D TV (SBS an UO)
# Added: eac3to infos
# Added: eac3to demux (selected .m2ts & .ssif ready)
# Added: Rapid link to CombineMVC and tsMuxeR
# Added: Editable playlist (x264 & eac3to demuxing)
# Added: Multi angle compatible
# Added: Support of index.bdmv (BD Root)
# Added: Support of playlist (.mpls)
# Added: Support of all media
# Fixed:  Help topic (in progress...)
# Fixed:  Link for update (in my signatre)
# Some fixes

[frencher]

"MVC Player Free v0.0.1.2" In my signature...

Extract and run directly MVC Player Free.exe or play associated file with MVC Player Free.exe

# Added: MediaInfo
# Added: Export to i420 YUV (output > .yuv)
# Fixed: Stop probleme with DirectShow filters
# Some fixes

[vanden]

As I tried to answer my question :

Originally Posted by vanden

I guess CombineMVC.exe uses filters Sonic/MainConcept (Sonic MVC Muxer AND Sonic File Writer) ?

Having filters Sonic Scenarist 5.5 (Sonic MVC Muxer 1.0.0.29341), I tested the graph.
Surprise the file is not exactly the same size as the CombineMVC file and it is not readable with Mainconcept/Sonic MPEG demultiplexer or (once remux in m2ts) with DirectShowSource ...!
Remux in mkv (mkvmerg) MakeMKV can not see the MVC stream ...

By chance I test Sonic HD Demuxer filter 4.3.00.0134 (on my raw stream combined "Sonic MVC Muxer") and it works.
I say I will test with a MakeMKV file demuxed (with eac3to), it works too !
I accidentally found a way to read in GraphEdit the raw combined stream of MakeMKV.
1. Demux MKV (with eac3to).
2. Open GraphEdit :
-a- File Source (Async) (open a raw file CombineMVC) / Mainconcept MPEG demultiplexer / Mainconcept MVC Decoder : Just activate the 2 video outputs of the decoder.
-b- File Source (Async) (open a raw file MakeMKV) / Sonic HD Demuxer / Mainconcept MVC Decoder / 2 Video render.