madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[mrmarioman]

Originally Posted by oddball

Try with fullscreen exclusive unticked it's the only way I could get it to display HDR. On the RX 480 I had to click on the MadVR icon though to get it working otherwise the colors were washed out. On my new RX Vega I don't need to do that and in fact if I click the MadVR icon the colors instead go psykadelic!

Click the icon? I'll give it a shot later.

But the colors don't look -completely- washed out. I have that problem with Windows' HDR when going full-screen, it will wash out the image entirely. But what I'm seeing with my 980Ti is different; it's not completely washed out. It looks like a normal blu-ray film with the added brightness (nits).

Here's a good example of what I get:

WCG disabled.
http://www.rtings.com/images/reviews...dard-large.jpg


And here what it should look like, WCG enabled.
http://www.rtings.com/images/reviews...-hdr-large.jpg

[aufkrawall]

Originally Posted by huhn

a small guess you using 6 or less GPU queue?

8 and it's not exclusive to madVR.
I can instantly tell if it's yadif or GPU by looking at structures like the microphone stand, cables or lighted shoulders during playback.

[Kotik]

Originally Posted by huhn

madVR. mpc-HC goto 480, x2 control left arrow key, 4x control right arrow key should do the job.

So lets see

AMD:
https://abload.de/img/amd480madvr7xyv0.png



NVidia:
https://abload.de/img/480mesbt.png



Is it me or there is Chroma offset? I did make sure to use Jinc for Chroma and Luma scaling.

[kuchikirukia]

Oooh, screenshots in DAR with xysubfilter subs. TY madshi.

[huhn]

in this image AMD. and before i forget check the image processing page in the CCC or what it's name is now.

@aufkrawall the microphone stand is the only part where YADIF clearly wins vs NVIDIA.
the wrong chroma position could create a bunch of problems too.

[Kotik]

Originally Posted by huhn

in this image AMD. and before i forget check the image processing page in the CCC or what it's name is now.

@aufkrawall the microphone stand is the only part where YADIF clearly wins vs NVIDIA.
the wrong chroma position could create a bunch of problems too.

Got all image processing off in CCC.

@Huhn what do u think regarding YADIF vs AMD? I wanted to upgrade from my AMD to an NVidia card, if YADIF will give me similar results with AMD i will be happy to proceed otherwise i will have to sit and wait until AMD releases a single slot, low profile RX card.......

NVidia has already GT 1030 out and it perfectly fits my HTPC case.

[huhn]

if you want to update to a 1030 i recommend you to not update if you really don't need to.
none RX cards run amazing fast with madVR often outperforming nvidia cards in the same price range by quite a lot.

if the chroma position get's fixed i don't think YADIF stand a chance against nvidia. but i'm not going to find out deinterlacing isn't that important to me. on the still image nvidia wins in my book.

[CruNcher]

Spatially that AMD result looks nice especially very solid reconstructed the String the Microphone Pole the middle and top part no aliasing left overall much better then the current Nvidia result and look it even keeped the specular better preserved on the Microphone top as well on it's bottom before the cable goes into it the whole angle of it was better processed, it was clear they improved they continuously do since some time now it would be nice to see HD Graphics results as well now from Kaby Lake

But we really need to find the same setups without any interfering factors

and i think we should try to get Samples in Motion done for each spatially is nice but without seeing results in Motion it's semi efficient to judge it

@Kotik

The new Vega Nano will be a beast not cheap but a beast.

And your result looks really good it wouldn't even matter whats the cause anymore it just beats any of the others currently spatially and yes there is a visible offset it shifts the whole red lamp

The cullprit are the strings

best reconstruction result is definetly your AMD result here it does everything better then Yadif and Nvidia as a whole

Yadif has master problems with keeping the strings

Nvidia does better but your result tops both on the strings reconstruction amazing result at the same time your result keeps overall everything that yadif does + more

We need a Football field compare

[steakhutzeee]

Hi! In your opinion, what are best settings for madvr on my configuration?

I've an Intel i5-4590; an MSI R9 270X 2GB; 8GB RAM.

Thanks!

[huhn]

you didn't even tell us what your target resolution is.

[steakhutzeee]

Originally Posted by huhn

you didn't even tell us what your target resolution is.

Sorry I'm on an Asus VC239H, so i'm in FullHD 1920*1080. Hope this helps.

[huhn]

try image scaling NGU sharp as high as possible before you drop frames and disable the post processing of the screen.

[Kotik]

Originally Posted by CruNcher

@Kotik

The new Vega Nano will be a beast not cheap but a beast.

And your result looks really good it wouldn't even matter whats the cause anymore it just beats any of the others currently spatially and yes there is a visible offset it shifts the whole red lamp

I also think that out of the three, YADIF / NVidia / AMD, the AMD does a slightly better job overall.

Deinterlacing for me is half the content during my daily usage of HTPC so it is important. But my HTPC case has enough space for Low Profile and 1slot size GPU, as you can understand my options are limited.

Currently got R7 240 and been waiting for a year for AMD to release something and they came up with RX 550 LP but this one is a two slot card.......

So i got two alternatives, either wait until AMD comes up with something new and hope it is single slot and low profile or get GT 1030 which doesnt impress me with the deinterlacing.

Is the chroma shifting a madvr issue or is it a driver issue?

[aufkrawall]

Originally Posted by huhn

@aufkrawall the microphone stand is the only part where YADIF clearly wins vs NVIDIA.
the wrong chroma position could create a bunch of problems too.

The mic is bad enough, and in motion I can spot it also elsewhere. I haven't heard of a general problem with YADIF shifting chroma, is that really so?

[steakhutzeee]

Originally Posted by huhn

try image scaling NGU sharp as high as possible before you drop frames and disable the post processing of the screen.

Sorry, can you be more specific? image upscaling? I'm trying to set all options to the lowest value but i've always dropped frames.
(if i press ctrl-r the dropped frames goes to 0, if i reopen the file i've dropped frames again).

I tried to restore madvr settings, not touching anithing but always some frames dropped.

[huhn]

looks like no not a madVR issue. i get the same in MPC-HC.
so we are pretty much out of luck here a bug in madVR get's fixed a driver bug can take "forever"...

nvidia has the chroma shift not AMD just to make that clear.
i would never get an polaris card for madVR they are terrible at NGU.

[huhn]

Originally Posted by steakhutzeee

Sorry, can you be more specific? image upscaling? I'm trying to set all options to the lowest value but i've always dropped frames.
(if i press ctrl-r the dropped frames goes to 0, if i reopen the file i've dropped frames again).

I tried to restore madvr settings, not touching anithing but always some frames dropped.

just dropped frames from starting the video that normal and can be ignored. just make sure the number stays where it is.

or just post a screen with the OSD.

[steakhutzeee]

Originally Posted by huhn

looks like no not a madVR issue. i get the same in MPC-HC.
so we are pretty much out of luck here a bug in madVR get's fixed a driver bug can take "forever"...

nvidia has the chroma shift not AMD just to make that clear.
i would never get an polaris card for madVR they are terrible at NGU.

So how i've to set it all? Maybe there is some up to date guide?

[CruNcher]

Originally Posted by Kotik

I also think that out of the three, YADIF / NVidia / AMD, the AMD does a slightly better job overall, the downside is the chroma shift.

Deinterlacing for me is half the content during my daily usage of HTPC so it is important. But my HTPC case has enough space for Low Profile and 1slot size GPU, as you can understand my options are limited.

Currently got R7 240 and been waiting for a year for AMD to release something and they came up with RX 550 LP but this one is a two slot card.......

So i got two alternatives, either wait until AMD comes up with something new and hope it is single slot and low profile or get GT 1030 which doesnt impress me with the deinterlacing.

Is the chroma shifting a madvr issue or is it a driver issue?

Im not sure if that is even a chroma shift do these lights move in that scene in their interlaced state change their light direction rapidly ?

i gonna download it myself looks like a nice test case

[walstib]

Originally Posted by madshi

Please create a debug log, zip it, upload it somewhere (don't attach here) and then link to it here. Please make sure you have the Ctrl+J OSD active while creating the debug log. Thanks.

@madshi - as requested.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B32...ew?usp=sharing

this was created using JRiver MC23 64bit, but the 32bit version has the same issue: MVC3D playback does not switch to FSE. It does in MC22 without issue.

thanks