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Old 20th July 2004, 16:42   #101  |  Link
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Switched back to Divx 5.11 or better to XVID
or RV10!


I fully agree


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Old 20th July 2004, 16:57   #102  |  Link
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Problem fixed; just needed to update FFDSHOW to 20040718 version.

Apparently DX 5.2 has very high 'Merit" and takes over, so FFDSHOW updated to fix that.
Thanks for the info, that helped me as well. I love FFDShow!
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Old 20th July 2004, 17:12   #103  |  Link
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I find it always very surprising that almost every topic about DivX results in trolling towards DivXNetworks and the unavoidable "BTW - I'm a XviD worshipper"-comments.

All of this seems to be based on a notion that opensource is "good" and making money is "evil" and on malperformed, private tests; some post only a 1 image comparison, some use quality metrics which are not ready for such tests yet. In the end most people are just confirming their personal preference but try to extra-polate that to a rocksolid fact.

It even more surprises me that people start complaining that the DivX-decoder is starting to decode DivX content. No, that's really shocking! Whatelse would you expect if you install the thing???

Maybe it would be nice if people start giving constructive critisism instead of trying to diss DivX on every chance they get. Judge DivX first of all on its own merit instead of making all kinds of lame comparisons, which is in reality a way of saying you prefer another codec.

My 2 cents and thank you DivX for this new release!

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Old 20th July 2004, 17:43   #104  |  Link
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Well at the end of the day it all comes down to the quality of the finished encode and the speed it can generate it!

And as I've already reported another threads, I'm not very happy with either.....

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... Although the explanation (in the new DivX guide) of how 'adaptive 1B-VOP and mB-VOP should help with the encoding process, I really don't see any visual improvement at all

When you weigh up encoding speed together with the finished encode I'm with some of you guys when you say DivX5.0.5 is a better product - and maybe even DivX5.0.2!

Personally speaking, I'm sad to say I think there's very little point conducting further tests using DivX5.2.0...
My personal opinion (if it counts for anything) is, it's not very good and is certainly not worth the hype!


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Old 20th July 2004, 18:40   #105  |  Link
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"Solved" the slow codec opening (Alt-P) problem by fully uninstalling the DrDivX and installing again .
Now works as fast as 5.1.1 or any other codec .
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@ stephanV and to who it may concern

There was no critisism in the words I used about moneymaking on Divx.
Just some observations on a new? codec.

I started Divx encoding almost 10 years ago. Win 95, do you remember?
Times have changed, but the hazzles remain.
Nowadays you dont have to be a computer expert, but an security manager, with all this stuff thats surrounding what should be a normal
en/decoder.
About the ffdshow issue:
Sure there has to be a equivalent decoder in the Divx package.
But if the DivxNetwork refuses that another decoder to decode files made by there encoder, there's something wrong.
Sure it's a simple registry hack, but what for?
The guys over at fddshow reacted fast. So there is no problem anymore.
But what about all the guys and girls which are not updating twice a week? They run into the trouble that I mentioned in my former post.
It is solved as you can see from posts of other fellows in this thread.
But wouldn't it be nicer if the Devs over at Divx would take this into account?

I love Divx and what they have done to spread the word.
But a little less ignorance and arrogance will be welcomed.
(Now they even promote their baby with the message: No more annoying
Adware.)!
They are right, no more Adware from different companies, but what is the Nag Screen on encoder tab for? To me its just another bulls...
Discussing on technical data later on.

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Old 20th July 2004, 19:07   #107  |  Link
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I was chuffed when it came out, ran 3 or 4 tests myself, never mind the screenshots of others, nope, sorry. The quality isn't anywhere near good enough for the hassle.
I don't think anybody has been able to point out an improvement on 5.1.1.
What I meant is I wish good luck to 5.2, but don't count on me to use it as it is now, nor recommend it.

The very fact that most people here (me included) can't even get over the scrolling banners and the general bully attitude of the codec, and are so overwhelmingly negative does prove a point:Something is very wrong, and for a commercial product, it doesn't look good on the long run.

If, at least, it was a beta! We might be more understanding.But this is a final, and eventually we'd be asked to pay for it.It just doesn't cut it, that doesn't change the fact that we're all grateful to Divx for what it is and what it has done and still doing, but it will not change the fact either that I refuse to reinstall it, in its present state (and I'm not the only one)
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Old 20th July 2004, 23:37   #108  |  Link
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I started Divx encoding almost 10 years ago. Win 95, do you remember?
Times have changed, but the hazzles remain.


Oh, I remember Win95... but DivX was i believe founded somewhere around 2000 so 10 years huh? In 1994 MPEG2 specs were just completed or something, but thats just nagging of course. Whatever you were encoding with, it wasn't DivX.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DivX

Taurus, you're a time traveller or you're telling us a lot of lies...
Choose one.


P.S.: Look at my signature... Intel Indeo codec...

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Remember Rule 4, people. Flame wars will not be tolerated. Not under any circumstances.

I will close the thread if I have to.
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I'm so sorry

Mixed up my experiences with old MS MPEG-4 and Divx.
And it seemed to me as if it was out for 10 years.
Now its only 6 years (Thanks Sharktooth for the wikipedia link)
(Is this realy true that MPEG-4 was released 1998? I must have been in a time tunnel).
I didn't wanted to upset anybody.
My only concern was about the new install routine of Divx 5.2.

So please excuse me if I got it wrong, or someone got me wrong.
Still into MPEG-4 encoding......
No need jggimi to close this thread.
I will shut my mouth and will look what the Pro's are observing.

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Im sorry for being harsh, i didnt meant to be so.
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I started Divx encoding almost 10 years ago. Win 95, do you remember?

Divx codec born on late 1998, and Win95 on 1995. Check your windows time.
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Old 21st July 2004, 18:48   #114  |  Link
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Hey guys,

I've built a fairly comprehensive list of issues, and we're looking at them all
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Where's that list?
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Old 21st July 2004, 20:12   #117  |  Link
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I sure hope that Zoomplayer issue is on the list.
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Sitting on my desk right now
Can you post that list please?
so we can review it and tell you if there are other issues to add...

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Yeah, I'd like to know what problems have been found to fix also. Especially since it was made public that there is a list of problems & corrections to be made.
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