LAV Filters - DirectShow Media Splitter and Decoders

[noee]

Just built up to 6ecb12aadbfe (cloned ffmpeg) and all build just fine, but I get application crashes (StackHash) when starting playback, both MPC-HC (4360) and jrMC17. You guys working okay, just want to make sure it's at my end or not....

[nevcairiel]

Works fine here.
Anything particular about the files that crash? Do all crash?

[noee]

Just figured it out. It's all my 10-bit h.264 encodes. 8bits are fine.

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by noee

Just figured it out. It's all my 10-bit h.264 encodes. 8bits are fine.

I see. Can reproduce.
Looks like a ffmpeg problem.

[izida]

Originally Posted by Pat357

You can unreg like this :
1. Go to the folder where LAV-filters are installed.
2. Do you see these .bat files for reg/unreg each component ?
3. If not, download the .7z from LAV filters, this contains the .bat files to register/unregister each component.
4. You can also use "regsvr32 /u Lavvideo.ax", but it's safer to use the pre-made .bat files.
5 To register again : "regsvr32 Lavvideo.ax" (without quotes), or use the .bat file.

You didn't remove the LAV-splitter, right ? Leave the splitter as is.
Is the LAV-splitter used by BSPlayer ?
Does it still work if you don't unreg LAV-audio ?
What are your decoder settings for LAV-Video (softw decoding, CUVID, DXVA-CB, or DXVA native ?)
First try with lav-audio regged again.
Then set LAV-video on software decoding and see if this works.

Do you know whether the renderer in BSPlayer supports dxva ?
At the time I used BSplayer, they had a "self made" renderer, not something standard. Is this still the case ?

Edit : I installed Bsplayer262.1066 myself to check if it works with LAV :

Got it working, but there are still some issues :
LAV-video : it seems that the renderer somehow doesn't accept NV12 or YV12, so I set LAV-video to output RGB32.
This kind of works but the image is always upside-down !!
There is no option in BSP to rotate/flip images, so if nothing else is working, you could use FFDhow raw to flip the image.

see http://www.mediafire.com/conv/1dea45...2b0c3f556g.jpg

Second issue is the usual when Haali Splitter is installed : this makes that BSP uses Haali instead of Lav-splitter.
I guess blacklisting Haali will solve this.
I've tried different formats (containers) and different codecs : LAV-video/audio were always used.
If you're interested, I could give you my .ini file with my settings.

Hi,i stuck on second, Do you see these .bat files

i have 7zip but dont see .bat files,just this:

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

I see. Can reproduce.
Looks like a ffmpeg problem.

10-bit H264 crash should be fixed again in Git.

[Mercury_22]

Originally Posted by izida

Hi,i stuck on second, Do you see these .bat files

i have 7zip but dont see .bat files,just this:

Use this

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.AX]
@="axfile"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\axfile\shell\Register]
@="Register"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\axfile\shell\Register\command]
@="regsvr32.exe \"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\axfile\shell\UnRegister]
@="UnRegister"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\axfile\shell\UnRegister\command]
@="regsvr32.exe /u \"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\Register]
@="Register"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\Register\command]
@="regsvr32.exe \"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\UnRegister]
@="UnRegister"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\UnRegister\command]
@="regsvr32.exe /u \"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.OCX]
@="ocxfile"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ocxfile\shell\Register]
@="Register"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ocxfile\shell\Register\command]
@="regsvr32.exe \"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ocxfile\shell\UnRegister]
@="UnRegister"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ocxfile\shell\UNRegister\command]
@="regsvr32.exe /u \"%1\""

and you'll get a "Register" and an "UnRegister" in your right click menu for every ax, dll and ocx file

[Pat357]

Originally Posted by izida

Hi,i stuck on second, Do you see these .bat files
i have 7zip but dont see .bat files,just this:

Sorry, my mistake ; I meant the .ZIP files from the official distribution ... .

[THX-UltraII]

what is the recommended budget videocard to use with LAV filters? NVIDIA (CUVID) or AMD (DXVA)? And which model?

[SamuriHL]

I would wait for a lower end Kepler based nVidia card. I'm likely to get a new card for my main HTPC this summer. Currently rebuilding the C2Q 8200 HTPC into an i7 3770K with an Asus Z77 board. Yes, I realize I'm another week away from being able to order the CPU but I've got the mobo and ram all ready to go. I currently have an AMD 5870 but I've decided that nVidia wins this round and will be going with whatever the top of the line nVidia solution is when I am ready to upgrade the video card. I would completely agree with anyone who said my proposed system is beyond overkill for an HTPC, but, I do a LOT of video editing and some gaming on it, as well. And I wanted something that'll last me another 3-4 years.

[nevcairiel]

You're not the only one just waiting for the CPU. I have a completely new HTPC, right now still in pieces, all components in their nice little boxes. I've been pondering between the 3570k or the 3770(k) though, guess final decision will be made on the price.
No GPU for the time being, see how the IVB GPU does. If its not enough, i'll probably go for a NVIDIA 640 or 650 once they hit.

Additionally, i'm on the lookout for a new receiver, but for some reason the 2012 Pioneers are not available in Europe yet..

[noee]

Originally Posted by THX-UltraII

what is the recommended budget videocard to use with LAV filters? NVIDIA (CUVID) or AMD (DXVA)? And which model?

I recommend fanless HD6570 or some sort. For quite a bit more you could go with the fanless HD7750, quite an amazing card.

So far, all of the HD6xxx series HTPC builds I've done have been flawless installs, working as expected right out of the box, in dual-mon scenarios.

I've not done any 7xxx series HTPC builds.

Do you value silence, what are you predominantly watching?

[SamuriHL]

Nice, Nev. I wasn't going to upgrade the main HTPC but after rebuilding my bedroom machine with an i5 Sandy Bridge and watching it kicking the living crap out of my 8200 for video encoding by orders of magnitude I decided to say screw it. I also got some sick ram for this thing. 16 gigs corsair 2100 XMP. The ASUS board is going to be nuts once I get it put together. My parts are all sitting in boxes, too. I thought about using just the HD4000 but I do game and need to start Mass Effect 3 once I'm done with ME2, so, the 5870 stays until I can afford a nice Kepler based GPU...probably the 680. My son is psyched as he'll inherit a machine with the parts from the 8200. The 3770k should be about 332 USD which isn't horrible given how easily overclockable the thing will be. I for one can't wait.

[THX-UltraII]

hmmm, some advise for NVIDIA and some advise for AMD. So what s the best choise.......
Is a NVIDIA GT520 good enough?
Or if AMD is the best way to go, a 5450?

[SamuriHL]

It's a tough choice. nVidia has CUDA decoding so you can offload a lot of the decoding to the GPU. This will help on a lower power machine when using madVR. AMD with the 6xxx series or better yet the 7xxx series can work with DXVA2 decoding, which does the same thing, but, isn't quite as fast as what we've seen with nVidia. I have a 5870 now and it works fine with my c2q 8200 but I'm going nVidia as soon as I can afford it.

[nevcairiel]

The 520 is way too slow, and the 5450 isn't much faster either. I wouldn't use either of those cards.

[THX-UltraII]

thxz, what about a AMD 6570?
And what s the minimum for NVIDIA?

[SamuriHL]

I think the 6570 should be ok. Again to get decoding you'll have to use DXVA copy-back and with 60fps content you may run into some issues. I'm running an nVidia GTS 450 in my bedroom machine and it works fine. Nev ran one for a while, as well. I wouldn't go too much lower these days.

[nevcairiel]

The 440 is fine as well, some people are also happy with a 430 (just make sure to get one with fast GPU RAM), but thats the lowest limit.

[DragonQ]

By "fast GPU RAM" do you mean the one with GDDR5 rather than DDR3?

I'm pretty sure mine is DDR3 cos I couldn't find a passive version with GDDR5, but it's handled everything I've asked of it so far. Probably wouldn't work too well with 4k or anything though.