x264 aspect ratio question

BabaG · 29th September 2013, 04:56

been trying to use x264 encoder to generate .264 files readable by adobe encore for some simple bluray authoring and am making enough progress to be thinking about the next problem: aspect ratio.

i have material that is 4x3 1440x1080p with square pixels. i read someplace that the bluray spec only accepts 1920x1080. if that is true, what is the best way for me to conform this 4x3 material? can it be done directly in the x264 encoding process? what i want for projection is a pillarboxed image.

thanks,
BabaG

Sharc · 29th September 2013, 08:28

I think you have to add left and right borders of 240 pixels width each, and encode at 1920x1080. Then you are safe.

Blu-ray accepts 1440x1080p but only for 16:9 DAR (Display Aspect Ratio). You may want to try 1440x1080 and encoded explicitely with --sar 1:1. It may work on some players, but I am afraid it's not blu-ray standard compliant.

BabaG · 29th September 2013, 17:22

thanks, Sharc.

can i add those borders directly in the x264 transcode? if so, what's the command for that?

thanks again,
BabaG

Sharc · 29th September 2013, 17:51

I doubt that one can add borders with x264 built-in filter options. I always use avisynth for this purpose, like:
AddBorders(240,0,240,0).

Btw., out of curiosity I tried 1440x1080p 4:3 source with --sar 1:1 on various playback devices:
- MPC-HC => ok
- VLC => ok
- WDT TV => ok
- SONY standalone Blu-Ray Player + TV: => NOT ok. It always stretched the picture to DAR 16:9. I could not even manually force it to 4:3.

BabaG · 29th September 2013, 20:22

thanks again, Sharc. much appreciated.

i think i need to start another thread on this. i have more info that gets farther afield than the aspect ratio subject.

BabaG

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BabaG Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 253	x264 aspect ratio question been trying to use x264 encoder to generate .264 files readable by adobe encore for some simple bluray authoring and am making enough progress to be thinking about the next problem: aspect ratio. i have material that is 4x3 1440x1080p with square pixels. i read someplace that the bluray spec only accepts 1920x1080. if that is true, what is the best way for me to conform this 4x3 material? can it be done directly in the x264 encoding process? what i want for projection is a pillarboxed image. thanks, BabaG

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Sharc Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,997	I think you have to add left and right borders of 240 pixels width each, and encode at 1920x1080. Then you are safe. Blu-ray accepts 1440x1080p but only for 16:9 DAR (Display Aspect Ratio). You may want to try 1440x1080 and encoded explicitely with --sar 1:1. It may work on some players, but I am afraid it's not blu-ray standard compliant. Last edited by Sharc; 29th September 2013 at 08:31.

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BabaG Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 253	thanks, Sharc. can i add those borders directly in the x264 transcode? if so, what's the command for that? thanks again, BabaG

29th September 2013, 17:51	#4 \| Link
Sharc Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,997	I doubt that one can add borders with x264 built-in filter options. I always use avisynth for this purpose, like: AddBorders(240,0,240,0). Btw., out of curiosity I tried 1440x1080p 4:3 source with --sar 1:1 on various playback devices: - MPC-HC => ok - VLC => ok - WDT TV => ok - SONY standalone Blu-Ray Player + TV: => NOT ok. It always stretched the picture to DAR 16:9. I could not even manually force it to 4:3.

29th September 2013, 20:22	#5 \| Link
BabaG Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 253	thanks again, Sharc. much appreciated. i think i need to start another thread on this. i have more info that gets farther afield than the aspect ratio subject. BabaG