madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[el Filou]

Originally Posted by seiyafan

In the hardware device option for copyback, is there any difference between the GPU card and the iGPU in the Intel processor?

It depends on the video decode capabilities of your iGPU and dGPU. Use the one with the broadest format support. For example you could have a modern Intel CPU that could decode HEVC and VP9 but an older - even if powerful for madVR - dGPU that cannot, or the opposite.
You can check the capabilities of each with this tool: http://bluesky23.yukishigure.com/en/DXVAChecker.html

If both GPUs have the same format support, it's best to do some playback tests comparing the CPU/GPU load with each.

[cca310]

Originally Posted by madshi

Anybody interested in an XySubFilter bugfix for external SRT subtitles with italic text in them?

http://madshi.net/XySubFilter746SrtFix.zip

This is not tested well, and it's a totally unofficial build, so please use on your own risk. If you do decide to give it a try, let me know if the "move subtitles" option now works properly in all situations.

I've asked cyberbeing to create a new official XySubFilter build with my fix, but it'd be great if some users would test it first.

I am not too familiar with github, but would this mean that your fix was added to the official xysubfilter? https://github.com/Cyberbeing/xy-VSF...c58c698c7df4af
It says that is fixed external subtitles, but not embedded?

I still have embedded subtitles covering my video with XySubFilter 3.1.0.752. If I install your "XySubFilter746SrtFix", embedded subtitles with italics are below the video correctly.

I believe the issue is not fixed for embedded subtitles.

[TechnoPeasant]

Originally Posted by TechnoPeasant

Has the latest Windows 10 update screwed the levels for anyone? I haven't touched my madVR setup in ages, the only thing that's changed is Windows 10, and now my levels are screwed and everything looks washed out.

So I had originally thought this was from a Windows 10 update, but the more research I do, I think I've found an update to my TV somehow broke compatibility with MadVR HDR10 passthrough. I own a Vizio PQ65 and noticed many other people having similar issues with playback from external devices, such as apps on their Xbox One.

In any case, if anyone happens to have run into the same issue, I was able to work around this by using Windows 10 HDR instead of nVidia. I did this by changing my nVidia driver settings to 23Hz, YcBr 4:4:4, 12bit and turned on Windows 10 HDR. From everything I've read, this is far from ideal, but it works for now. Hopefully Vizio will fix things.

If anyone has suggestions as to what driver settings to use in conjunction with Windows 10 HDR, please let me know. It's possible I should be using RGB Full, like I was previously, but I wasn't sure. Thanks!

[mclingo]

are you sure your setup it right, i'd double check, sounds like you've got the wrong colour space set somewhere, i'd check your setup again. Go for Full RGB 4:4:4 on your graphics card, set MADVR to 10bit and 0-255 - your TV black level should be on HIGH or whatever the equivalent is for this setting.

Now play the black clipping pattern with something like MPC-BE with MADVR set as renderer but also remember to set full screen, does that look normal, crushed or washed out?

[TechnoPeasant]

Originally Posted by mclingo

are you sure your setup it right, i'd double check, sounds like you've got the wrong colour space set somewhere, i'd check your setup again. Go for Full RGB 4:4:4 on your graphics card, set MADVR to 10bit and 0-255 - your TV black level should be on HIGH or whatever the equivalent is for this setting.

Now play the black clipping pattern with something like MPC-BE with MADVR set as renderer but also remember to set full screen, does that look normal, crushed or washed out?

What I think is happening, is that the TV isn't choosing the correct color space when in HDR10 mode + RGB in the nvidia driver, and I can't select the color space in the TV manually. I also have no known way to set the black level either, Vizio PQ sets look good, but their user controls are kind of crap.

[mclingo]

2018 tvs seem to have this, https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vi...-2018/settings

[TechnoPeasant]

I think their screenshots and what not are out of date. Also, I'm fairly confident it never allowed us to change the color space when in HDR10 mode.

[mclingo]

Originally Posted by TechnoPeasant

I think their screenshots and what not are out of date. Also, I'm fairly confident it never allowed us to change the color space when in HDR10 mode.

hdr10 is a mode not a picture prest though, you set the colour space oon the picture preset and when HDR is enabled it probably locks it in, I cant change some of my picture settings when HDR is enabled on my lg oled

[TechnoPeasant]

Originally Posted by mclingo

hdr10 is a mode not a picture prest though, you set the colour space oon the picture preset and when HDR is enabled it probably locks it in, I cant change some of my picture settings when HDR is enabled on my lg oled

I gave this a shot, under the preset I use for everything, I changed to RGB, played a HDR file, the TV switches to HDR mode and gets all washed out.

This was all working for a long time, aside from the TV or receiver updating, I’m not sure what else changed. Frustrating.

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by TechnoPeasant

I gave this a shot, under the preset I use for everything, I changed to RGB, played a HDR file, the TV switches to HDR mode and gets all washed out.

It sounds like it stays in limited range but the TV uses full range, did you make sure you changed to full range RGB?

[TechnoPeasant]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

It sounds like it stays in limited range but the TV uses full range, did you make sure you changed to full range RGB?

Unfortunately, the Vizio PQ doesn't seem to offer a setting for video levels, just color space. Kinda sucks.

[wushantao]

i want to upgrade my graphics card

now i use sony 900f，maybe I will buy another 950g

rx590，rx5700，rtx2060，which one is better for madvr only？

[mclingo]

Originally Posted by TechnoPeasant

I gave this a shot, under the preset I use for everything, I changed to RGB, played a HDR file, the TV switches to HDR mode and gets all washed out.

This was all working for a long time, aside from the TV or receiver updating, I’m not sure what else changed. Frustrating.

set this up, and report back.

Set your PC to FUll RGB 4:4:4
set MADVR to 0-255
ensure MADVR is set to 10 bit
ensure windows HDR is turned off
set your TV to computer mode
set your TV to colour space YCBCR

play the normal black clipping pattern in SDR, does it look normal, lightened or crushed?

Black clipping pattern just incase you havent got it:

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AgvFafeelEBiic4_mgS5fNxtjfHEHg

[mclingo]

Originally Posted by wushantao

i want to upgrade my graphics card

now i use sony 900f，maybe I will buy another 950g

rx590，rx5700，rtx2060，which one is better for madvr only？

any graphics card will run MADVR, generally the more you spend the more power it will have in MADVR, peoples setups are too different to really recommend anything to people now, even though some try.

If you want 3D however you'll need to stay with AMD or use an NVIDA card with much older drivers.

The correlation between MADVR and gaming is close enough for most so that should be a good enough tell, the better a cards gaming chops the better it will likely be in MADVR, as a very general rule.

However the older RX polaris cards were not as good as the equivalent NVIDA cards, AMD now seems to have made up that ground though.

Best advice, spend as much as your budget will allow.

[Klaus1189]

Do Multi-GPU setups help madVR or isn‘t it optimized for that. For a game which isn‘t optimized for Multi-GPU might be slower than using a single GPU. Driver might also be relevant.

[huhn]

sli CF are not properly supported and usually slow the rendering down.

[COOLak]

Hi guys. When I was using MPC-HC native functionality to set TV resolutions based on the video, it would output all video at 1080p, because madVR was upscaling it. Then I switched to madVR's "Display Modes" function, and now it outputs DVDs in 720p instead of 1080p. But why? I have upscaling options at the maximum in madVR, so why it doesn't output in 1080p? My display modes are: 640x480p50, 640x480p60, 720p23, 720p24, 720p30, 720p50, 720p60, 1080p23, 1080p24, 1080p30, 1080p50, 1080p60

Right now I'm playing a DVD at 720x576p50, and it outputs it at 720p. But when I disable "Display Modes" functionality in madVR and switch to MPC-HC functionality, it outputs it at 1080p.
Any suggestions?

UPD: fixed with chros's advice. Thanks.

[chros]

You should only use the native resolution of your display in madvr:
1080p23, 1080p24, 1080p30, 1080p50, 1080p60

[Klaus1189]

I just did use EVR standard and EVR custom presenter for playing a videofile and these wash out the video like 0-255 vs. 16-235.
However since I normally use madVR where it is fine and also in VMR9 (windowed) it is fine.
Playing the exact same video on youtube in Firefox is exactly like VMR9 and madvr.
Need help to find the culprit: driver or Windows or anything other perhaps?
Happens on both MPC-BE and MPC-HC.

[huhn]

the issue can range from GPU driver settings (AMD removed the setting to output full range AFAIK it is still in the registry) up to renderer settings -> output range.


BTW. wrong thread.