eac3to - audio conversion tool - Page 613

madshi · 9th April 2013, 08:36

There's also the question about timestamps. mkvtoolnix used to be worse at writing the correct timestamps into the MKV for some video files, compared to eac3to. I suppose mkvtoolnix got better with that in the past months/years, but I'm not sure how good it really is now. Creating the proper timestamps is not always easy, and at least in the past eac3to was better at that. Just yesterday I received an MKV sample from a madVR user, muxed with mkvtoolnix. I noticed some playback problems. After remuxing it with eac3to it played better for me. And just for the record, the specialist for muxing MPEG2, VC-1 and h264 video tracks into MKV is eac3to, not mkvmerge. eac3to had proper VC-1 muxing support long before mkvmerge. I was the one pioneering VC-1 into MKV muxing (Haali tried it first, but didn't get it to work properly). And when I implemented h264 muxing support, mkvmerge was buggy as hell with h264 muxing. JFWIW...

gp2221 · 9th April 2013, 15:42

Doesn't 'anothereac3to gui' use mkvmerge to reassemble the mkv? Why doesn't it just use eac3to?

I've been using 'anothereac3to GUI' to rip my blu-rays because sometimes I want a separate copy of the audio track (in flac). I use makemkv for other discs. Are there better options available now?

madshi · 9th April 2013, 15:46

eac3to can only mux the video track to MKV. In order to add the audio tracks, too, you have to use mkvmerge. However, if you feed mkvmerge with the video MKV created by eac3to, mkvmerge will reuse the timestamps etc muxed by eac3to, AFAIK.

cyberbeing · 9th April 2013, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeXXuz

Anyone know about a more recent version?

The latest beta release of CCCP codec pack contain a pre-release Haali Splitter 1.13.97.23 from March 4th, 2013, which also includes a new build of gdsmux.exe

innounp -x can be used to extract out the Haali folder if you don't want to use the CCCP installer.

Edit: JEEB posted the Haali 1.13.97.23 installer http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=114

lazyn00b · 10th April 2013, 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeXXuz

Okay it it's not eac3to it seems to be the Matroska muxer causing this problem. eac3to uses Haali's media splitter AFAIR. Latest version I can find is dated 03/03/2011. And this one is not working with partitions that big, at least not for me.

Anyone know about a more recent version or can anyone at least confirm this issue?

I'm having the same issue when trying to use eac3to (via Staxrip) on source files located on a 4 TB Windows 8 Storage Space. I found another guy on the Videohelp forums who has the same issue, although he's using MKV2AC3 as the front end to eac3to. I tried replacing eac3to 3.24 with 3.27, but it didn't make a difference. Moving the source files from the Storage Space to a single (smaller) drive solved the issue.

BTW, the failure happens pretty much immediately, and eac3to does not seem to produce a log file.

superhil · 10th April 2013, 10:55

i don't understand how "-edit=0:00:00,0ms" works
could you help me how is the command if i want to take first ten seconds as a sample of the audio?

tebasuna51 · 10th April 2013, 11:49

-edit=0:00:00,0ms loops or removes audio data at the specified runtime
-silence/-loop forces usage of silence (or looping) for audio edits

Then:
-edit=H:MM:SS,Xms -silence
Add X ms of silence at H:MM:SS

-edit=H:MM:SS,Xms -loop
Repeat last X ms at H:MM:SS

-edit=H:MM:SS,-Xms
Delete X ms at H:MM:SS

You can't extract the first ten seconds.
There are a parameter:

-Xmb

Than stop extract audio after reach X MB of the source, but you can't know easily how many seconds you extract.
You can use DelayCut to do the job for AC3/DTS/MP3/WAV audio.

superhil · 10th April 2013, 15:21

Dear tebasuna51
Thanks for the explanation.
I think i missunderstood about the function of "-edit" option

LeXXuz · 16th April 2013, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberbeing

The latest beta release of CCCP codec pack contain a pre-release Haali Splitter 1.13.97.23 from March 4th, 2013, which also includes a new build of gdsmux.exe

innounp -x can be used to extract out the Haali folder if you don't want to use the CCCP installer.

Edit: JEEB posted the Haali 1.13.97.23 installer http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=114

Thank you for the link. Unfortunately the newer version does not change anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazyn00b

I'm having the same issue when trying to use eac3to (via Staxrip) on source files located on a 4 TB Windows 8 Storage Space. I found another guy on the Videohelp forums who has the same issue, although he's using MKV2AC3 as the front end to eac3to. I tried replacing eac3to 3.24 with 3.27, but it didn't make a difference. Moving the source files from the Storage Space to a single (smaller) drive solved the issue.

BTW, the failure happens pretty much immediately, and eac3to does not seem to produce a log file.

It seems it is NOT the partition size in general. I removed lots of stuff from my 3TB drive, reduced partition size to 1.5TB and created a 2nd partition of approx. 650GB (so both partitions stay below 2.1TB in total).

However, eac3to still refuses to write to this partition when the video output container is set to mkv. I tried this manually and with MeGUI as front-end.

Just to get this straight: eac3to does not write/create mkv files on it's own. It has to rely on a DS filter, is that correct?

Is it possible to make eac3to work with a different filter to get rid of the outdated Haali filter once and for all?

Snowknight26 · 16th April 2013, 20:15

Not until madshi makes quite a few changes to eac3to. It's been suggested by me and a few others to ditch gdsmux in favor of ffmpeg but nothing is set in stone. If he does decide to do it (being as busy as he is) it'll be quite a while before we see the results.

madshi · 16th April 2013, 20:23

eac3to writes MKV files through the Haali MKV Muxer DirectShow filter. However, all other files are created and written to directly by eac3to. Replacing the Haali MKV Muxer would be quite a lot of work, so don't expect that anytime soon.

Sparktank · 17th April 2013, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberbeing

The latest beta release of CCCP codec pack contain a pre-release Haali Splitter 1.13.97.23 from March 4th, 2013, which also includes a new build of gdsmux.exe

innounp -x can be used to extract out the Haali folder if you don't want to use the CCCP installer.

Edit: JEEB posted the Haali 1.13.97.23 installer http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=114

K-Lite Mega Codec Pack seems to install the newest test/pre builds now by default.
Stable K-Lite, no beta or anything.

mindbomb · 23rd April 2013, 16:31

For demuxing subtitles with zlib compression in an mkv, eac3to demuxes the file sucessfully, but it doesnt remove the compression.

cafevn · 24th April 2013, 03:13

hi, if i only need extract DTS-HDMA5.1 audio i don't need arc soft decoder?

mindbomb · 24th April 2013, 04:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cafevn

hi, if i only need extract DTS-HDMA5.1 audio i don't need arc soft decoder?

correct.

cafevn · 24th April 2013, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindbomb

correct.

thank you, i only need remux blu-ray, not encode anythings

kypec · 25th April 2013, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by cafevn

thank you, i only need remux blu-ray, not encode anythings

MakeMKV is probably more suitable for your purpose than eac3to if all you need is demux/remux Bluray streams.

cafevn · 25th April 2013, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by kypec

MakeMKV is probably more suitable for your purpose than eac3to if all you need is demux/remux Bluray streams.

i have 2-disc blu-ray want to remux to 1 mkv file (titanic 3d)

i thing i need demux 2 disc and use mkvmerge to append to 1 mkv file

that right

dansrfe · 25th April 2013, 20:26

Is there support planned for MP4 files?

DigitalfreakNYC · 28th April 2013, 18:44

Every time I try to convert an uncompressed wav to thd, I get "audio not supported." Any suggestions?

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tebasuna51 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 5,661	-edit=0:00:00,0ms loops or removes audio data at the specified runtime -silence/-loop forces usage of silence (or looping) for audio edits Then: -edit=H:MM:SS,Xms -silence Add X ms of silence at H:MM:SS -edit=H:MM:SS,Xms -loop Repeat last X ms at H:MM:SS -edit=H:MM:SS,-Xms Delete X ms at H:MM:SS You can't extract the first ten seconds. There are a parameter: -Xmb Than stop extract audio after reach X MB of the source, but you can't know easily how many seconds you extract. You can use DelayCut to do the job for AC3/DTS/MP3/WAV audio. __________________ BeHappy, AviSynth audio transcoder, in Doom9 forums. NicAudio, BassAudio, audio decoders.

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9th April 2013, 08:36	#12241 \| Link
madshi Registered Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,137	There's also the question about timestamps. mkvtoolnix used to be worse at writing the correct timestamps into the MKV for some video files, compared to eac3to. I suppose mkvtoolnix got better with that in the past months/years, but I'm not sure how good it really is now. Creating the proper timestamps is not always easy, and at least in the past eac3to was better at that. Just yesterday I received an MKV sample from a madVR user, muxed with mkvtoolnix. I noticed some playback problems. After remuxing it with eac3to it played better for me. And just for the record, the specialist for muxing MPEG2, VC-1 and h264 video tracks into MKV is eac3to, not mkvmerge. eac3to had proper VC-1 muxing support long before mkvmerge. I was the one pioneering VC-1 into MKV muxing (Haali tried it first, but didn't get it to work properly). And when I implemented h264 muxing support, mkvmerge was buggy as hell with h264 muxing. JFWIW...

9th April 2013, 15:42	#12242 \| Link
gp2221 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 10	Doesn't 'anothereac3to gui' use mkvmerge to reassemble the mkv? Why doesn't it just use eac3to? I've been using 'anothereac3to GUI' to rip my blu-rays because sometimes I want a separate copy of the audio track (in flac). I use makemkv for other discs. Are there better options available now?

9th April 2013, 15:46	#12243 \| Link
madshi Registered Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,137	eac3to can only mux the video track to MKV. In order to add the audio tracks, too, you have to use mkvmerge. However, if you feed mkvmerge with the video MKV created by eac3to, mkvmerge will reuse the timestamps etc muxed by eac3to, AFAIK.

10th April 2013, 10:55	#12246 \| Link
superhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 24	i don't understand how "-edit=0:00:00,0ms" works could you help me how is the command if i want to take first ten seconds as a sample of the audio?

10th April 2013, 15:21	#12248 \| Link
superhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 24	Dear tebasuna51 Thanks for the explanation. I think i missunderstood about the function of "-edit" option

16th April 2013, 20:15	#12250 \| Link
Snowknight26 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,394	Not until madshi makes quite a few changes to eac3to. It's been suggested by me and a few others to ditch gdsmux in favor of ffmpeg but nothing is set in stone. If he does decide to do it (being as busy as he is) it'll be quite a while before we see the results.

16th April 2013, 20:23	#12251 \| Link
madshi Registered Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,137	eac3to writes MKV files through the Haali MKV Muxer DirectShow filter. However, all other files are created and written to directly by eac3to. Replacing the Haali MKV Muxer would be quite a lot of work, so don't expect that anytime soon.

23rd April 2013, 16:31	#12253 \| Link
mindbomb Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 578	For demuxing subtitles with zlib compression in an mkv, eac3to demuxes the file sucessfully, but it doesnt remove the compression.

24th April 2013, 03:13	#12254 \| Link
cafevn Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5	hi, if i only need extract DTS-HDMA5.1 audio i don't need arc soft decoder?

25th April 2013, 20:26	#12259 \| Link
dansrfe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,212	Is there support planned for MP4 files?

28th April 2013, 18:44	#12260 \| Link
DigitalfreakNYC Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 87	Every time I try to convert an uncompressed wav to thd, I get "audio not supported." Any suggestions?