Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA! - Page 975

FDisk80 · 4th May 2012, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by roytam1

i just hope that they should remove the "c" in their name as it is not "classic" anymore.

mphc

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Anarchitektur · 4th May 2012, 16:55

c for classy

pirlouy · 4th May 2012, 20:12

I think a lot of people are afraid by losing 1MB for RAM and 0.01% for CPU, but if it's well-conceived, you will just lose some RAM, and a bit of CPU at start. Nothing to worry about except when you are obsessed by your task manager.

I'm ok with MPC-HC but if it had a new skin (with useful information like codecs) for window version, it could be nice... For Full Screen, there's no need for a new interface, I think it has to be the one from renderer (the seekbar from MadVR is great and enough).

Jong · 4th May 2012, 20:25

So I read today that Windows 8 will no longer support DVD playback. Does this mean mpc-hc loses its DVD Navigator ( outdated and buggy as it is )?

nevcairiel · 4th May 2012, 20:29

Its not "its" DVD Navigator, its the one that comes with Windows. I'll agree on buggy, but Outdated - well i suppose, but so is the medium.
Anyway, we won't know if the DVD Navigator will be included unless someone goes and checks!

Jong · 5th May 2012, 00:48

That was my point. Although mpc-hc can use all kinds of other filters for decoding it has always used the Windows DVD Navigator and now it "seems" it will not be in Windows 8, if this is to be believed.

ageback · 5th May 2012, 01:46

S.Chinese update to rev.4587
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132862/mplayerc.sc.rc.txt

Hypernova · 5th May 2012, 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by pirlouy

I think a lot of people are afraid by losing 1MB for RAM and 0.01% for CPU, but if it's well-conceived, you will just lose some RAM, and a bit of CPU at start. Nothing to worry about except when you are obsessed by your task manager.

I'm ok with MPC-HC but if it had a new skin (with useful information like codecs) for window version, it could be nice... For Full Screen, there's no need for a new interface, I think it has to be the one from renderer (the seekbar from MadVR is great and enough).

About the seekbar, I still wish that one of the free players will add the preview-on-hover. I found it ironic that YouTube has it before any native players. Well, at least Splash player has it before but it's not free. Of course, I understand it's not easy to add, so I'm not put too much hope on it.

And despite the fact that madVR is my choice of renderer, the style of its seekbar is not my favorite. But that's for another topic.

pulbitz · 5th May 2012, 05:14

Does MPC-HC H.264 DXVA decoder on Intel HD 2000 process deblocking?
I'm seeing artifacts when using it.
Other DXVA decoders is OK. (MS DTV-DVD, LAV, PotPlayer)

Octo-puss · 5th May 2012, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jong

So I read today that Windows 8 will no longer support DVD playback. Does this mean mpc-hc loses its DVD Navigator ( outdated and buggy as it is )?

No-one in his right mind will even THINK about using Windows 8, so I am not worried about that at all.

god_md5 · 5th May 2012, 11:32

mpc-hc

vlc

thank you add dvb Subtitle support

Amour · 5th May 2012, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octo-puss

No-one in his right mind will even THINK about using Windows 8, so I am not worried about that at all.

Disagree.

ryrynz · 5th May 2012, 13:47

I was going to say the same thing, then I thought it best not to feed it.

Amour · 5th May 2012, 18:26

With MPC-HC x64 1.6.2.4360, the following MPEG1 video has issues with seeking. When you seek to a different position, the sound is fine but the picture is frozen. Seeking works fine with VLC:
http://directmirror.com/files/16WPSRUM

Underground78 · 5th May 2012, 18:28

Are you sure the internal filters are used? They are normally disabled for MPEG1 so it may be unrelated with MPC-HC.

Amour · 5th May 2012, 18:38

I always use all internal filters. But when I hover my mouse on MPEG1, I have a message saying it's buggy. Maybe someone could look into it?

Amour · 5th May 2012, 18:48

MPC-HC's MPEG1 filter is buggy with libmpeg2.
VLC's MPEG1 filter is not buggy with libmpeg2.

From: http://libmpeg2.cvs.sourceforge.net/...og?view=markup
We have:
mpeg2dec-0.3.1 Fri Dec 13 22:15:36 PST 2002
mpeg2dec-0.4.0 Tue Dec 23 03:04:35 PST 2003

From: http://svn.videolan.org/filedetails....nk%2FChangeLog
We have:
mpeg2dec-0.4.1 Wed Feb 15 17:08:28 CET 2006
libmpeg2-0.5.0 Fri Jun 11 23:42:12 CET 2008
libmpeg2-0.5.1 Fri Jul 18 16:28:49 CEST 2008

From: http://mpc-hc.svn.sourceforge.net/vi...02&view=markup
We have:
#define MPEG2_RELEASE MPEG2_VERSION (0, 3, 2) /* 0.3.2 */

Underground78 · 5th May 2012, 19:36

Are you sure the internal filters are really used in this case (check Play --> Filters)? I think MPEG1 decoding is disabled except for debug builds.

Amour · 5th May 2012, 19:56

Yes, sure. And as a proof:
1) I provided a video sample above (7 Mb only)
2) If I uncheck the MPEG-1 Video internal filter, the seeking works fine.

Amour · 5th May 2012, 22:36

I compared the revisions of MPC-HC and VLC regarding libmpeg2:
* we have common code from middle of August 2003. It was libmpeg2 0.3.1. The code was in C and split in small files.
* VLC: they became the official host for libmpeg2 and they now host version 0.5.1. Changes were made by walken, sammy and massiot. The code is in C and split in small files.
* MPC-HC: they numbered their fork 0.3.2. Changes were made by casimir666, drevil_xxl, Spec-chum, xhmikosr, kinddragon and Aleksoid. The code is in C++ with some ASM and merged in big files.

So it's not easy to diff those two 8-9 years-old branches and see what change they made that we could apply to fix the seeking in MPEG1.

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nevcairiel Registered Developer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 10,347	Its not "its" DVD Navigator, its the one that comes with Windows. I'll agree on buggy, but Outdated - well i suppose, but so is the medium. Anyway, we won't know if the DVD Navigator will be included unless someone goes and checks! __________________ LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders

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pulbitz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 22	Does MPC-HC H.264 DXVA decoder on Intel HD 2000 process deblocking? I'm seeing artifacts when using it. Other DXVA decoders is OK. (MS DTV-DVD, LAV, PotPlayer) Last edited by pulbitz; 5th May 2012 at 05:25.

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god_md5 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 45	mpc-hc vlc thank you add dvb Subtitle support Last edited by god_md5; 5th May 2012 at 11:40.

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Amour Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: France Posts: 192	With MPC-HC x64 1.6.2.4360, the following MPEG1 video has issues with seeking. When you seek to a different position, the sound is fine but the picture is frozen. Seeking works fine with VLC: http://directmirror.com/files/16WPSRUM __________________ Mystérieuse Amour

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Amour Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: France Posts: 192	I always use all internal filters. But when I hover my mouse on MPEG1, I have a message saying it's buggy. Maybe someone could look into it? __________________ Mystérieuse Amour

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Anarchitektur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 26	c for classy

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pirlouy _ Join Date: May 2008 Location: France Posts: 692	I think a lot of people are afraid by losing 1MB for RAM and 0.01% for CPU, but if it's well-conceived, you will just lose some RAM, and a bit of CPU at start. Nothing to worry about except when you are obsessed by your task manager. I'm ok with MPC-HC but if it had a new skin (with useful information like codecs) for window version, it could be nice... For Full Screen, there's no need for a new interface, I think it has to be the one from renderer (the seekbar from MadVR is great and enough).

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Jong Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 576	So I read today that Windows 8 will no longer support DVD playback. Does this mean mpc-hc loses its DVD Navigator ( outdated and buggy as it is )?

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Jong Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 576	That was my point. Although mpc-hc can use all kinds of other filters for decoding it has always used the Windows DVD Navigator and now it "seems" it will not be in Windows 8, if this is to be believed.

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ageback Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Jiang Su,China Posts: 58	S.Chinese update to rev.4587 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132862/mplayerc.sc.rc.txt

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ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	I was going to say the same thing, then I thought it best not to feed it.

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Underground78 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: France Posts: 567	Are you sure the internal filters are used? They are normally disabled for MPEG1 so it may be unrelated with MPC-HC.

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Amour Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: France Posts: 192	MPC-HC's MPEG1 filter is buggy with libmpeg2. VLC's MPEG1 filter is not buggy with libmpeg2. From: http://libmpeg2.cvs.sourceforge.net/...og?view=markup We have: mpeg2dec-0.3.1 Fri Dec 13 22:15:36 PST 2002 mpeg2dec-0.4.0 Tue Dec 23 03:04:35 PST 2003 From: http://svn.videolan.org/filedetails....nk%2FChangeLog We have: mpeg2dec-0.4.1 Wed Feb 15 17:08:28 CET 2006 libmpeg2-0.5.0 Fri Jun 11 23:42:12 CET 2008 libmpeg2-0.5.1 Fri Jul 18 16:28:49 CEST 2008 From: http://mpc-hc.svn.sourceforge.net/vi...02&view=markup We have: #define MPEG2_RELEASE MPEG2_VERSION (0, 3, 2) /* 0.3.2 / __________________ Mystérieuse Amour Last edited by Amour; 5th May 2012 at 20:34.*

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Underground78 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: France Posts: 567	Are you sure the internal filters are really used in this case (check Play --> Filters)? I think MPEG1 decoding is disabled except for debug builds.

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Amour Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: France Posts: 192	Yes, sure. And as a proof: 1) I provided a video sample above (7 Mb only) 2) If I uncheck the MPEG-1 Video internal filter, the seeking works fine. __________________ Mystérieuse Amour

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Amour Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: France Posts: 192	I compared the revisions of MPC-HC and VLC regarding libmpeg2: * we have common code from middle of August 2003. It was libmpeg2 0.3.1. The code was in C and split in small files. * VLC: they became the official host for libmpeg2 and they now host version 0.5.1. Changes were made by walken, sammy and massiot. The code is in C and split in small files. * MPC-HC: they numbered their fork 0.3.2. Changes were made by casimir666, drevil_xxl, Spec-chum, xhmikosr, kinddragon and Aleksoid. The code is in C++ with some ASM and merged in big files. So it's not easy to diff those two 8-9 years-old branches and see what change they made that we could apply to fix the seeking in MPEG1. __________________ Mystérieuse Amour Last edited by Amour; 5th May 2012 at 22:39.