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28th November 2016, 18:15 | #40903 | Link | |
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Here's a random capture of worst case (25 fps, 1280x720). It's not dropping frames, I was just messing about in and out of full screen. Most of the time it's in the range of 24 - 30 ms depending on frame height. Last edited by JarrettH; 28th November 2016 at 18:17. |
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28th November 2016, 18:40 | #40907 | Link |
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Yea I read that but did not understand that the page was removed totally. Ok I found where the options are now. Is there any reason why the 'chroma quality' drop down box is greyed out when NGU is enabled and is only available when NNEDI3 is used?
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28th November 2016, 18:46 | #40908 | Link |
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With the newest madvr version and my gtx960 I get better rendering times along with NGU very high (chroma upscaling) than I had with NGU high on version 0.91.0 Great!
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28th November 2016, 19:26 | #40913 | Link | |
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I prefer to have the option to choose what is used. I do not want to use Bicubic60 AR for any luma upscaling. Well I did notice a differense in IQ with my 480p videos. I reverted back to version 0.90.24 for the time being, and my trusted and loved NNEDI3 settings
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28th November 2016, 19:54 | #40914 | Link | |
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NGU still oversharpens noticeably on mid-quality SD content. I don't want to resort to enhancements to mess with the image, I'd like to use a clean image doubler instead. But by your argument, I'm already doing it right and NGU should do well. It's simply too harsh of an upscaler. Last edited by Schwartz; 28th November 2016 at 19:57. |
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I would want to choose the upscaling algorithm to be used after image doubling for further upscaling to the target resolution. That algorithm may also be used for upscaling to lower scaling factors which don’t activate the selected image doubling algorithm. For instance, if NNEDI3 or NGU is selected in upscaling settings to be used, say, when scaling factor is 1.5x or bigger, Bicubic60 AR is used for upscaling to less than 1.5x scale factor whereas I would want to use Jinc there. Last edited by omarank; 28th November 2016 at 20:23. |
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28th November 2016, 20:12 | #40917 | Link |
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Reverting back to v0.91.1, because I can't set the luma to > NGU-med < Lanczos3 AR anymore. I was the best quality I could get with my CG. The new luma > NGU-high < SSim 1D100 AR produce a lot more of noise and artefacts.
NGU is epic to upscale FHD content to UHD when adding grain. Best quality with very little artifacts. Edit : same with Chroma, now we get predefined choices when using NGU. I thought the "automatic" quality selection used the settings from the already defined algorithms in "chroma upscaling", "image downscaling" and "image upscaling" menus. That would make more sense and allow more customization. I don't know what "automatic" stands for there, but if you want to keep it, why not add a "user defined" choice for advanced users ? Last edited by Neo-XP; 28th November 2016 at 21:27. Reason: explaination |
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28th November 2016, 20:38 | #40920 | Link |
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Ok, I probably have been lead a bit astray by paranoia.
To put it short: I'm fine with the new doubling dialogue, turns out it quadruples the lighttower picture when setting NGU to always activate as supersampling (which is no problem since the setting is only for a profile with high scaling factor). All the changes of the latest build together allow me to do luma NGU high scaling + chroma NGU low + SSIM for 1080p -> WQHD with my 1070, which is a very good thing. Edit: Talking about 60fps, ofc. Last edited by aufkrawall; 28th November 2016 at 20:45. |
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direct compute, dithering, error diffusion, madvr, ngu, nnedi3, quality, renderer, scaling, uhd upscaling, upsampling |
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