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Old 18th November 2016, 22:34   #40181  |  Link
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Also in previous build I was able to preview settings on the fly - set picture on pause and changed various madVR settings - changes reflected immediately. Now any setting i'm playing with doesn't impact an image on the fly.
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Old 18th November 2016, 22:35   #40182  |  Link
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Please check luma doubling. not chroma upsampling. The OSD is not conclusive for chroma.
Not working, I think.

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Old 18th November 2016, 22:37   #40183  |  Link
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1) Do you have f.lux running?
2) Or GpuZ?
3) Or FRAPS?
4) Or any other similar software which might access the GPU?
5) Do you use Reclock? Does it work if you disable Reclock?
None of the above.

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Old 18th November 2016, 22:38   #40184  |  Link
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How does NGU high compare to NNEDI3 64 for you?
720p 60fps -> WQHD, everything else than ordered dithering disabled, bilinear chroma scaling, CPU decoding:
NGU High: ~11ms
NNEDI3 64: ~9ms
NNEDI3 64 + SR3: ~11.85ms
Everything tested with full GPU clock.
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Old 18th November 2016, 22:40   #40185  |  Link
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Those of you with keyboard shortcuts (and probably NGU) not working:

1) Do you have f.lux running?
2) Or GpuZ?
3) Or FRAPS?
4) Or any other similar software which might access the GPU?
5) Do you use Reclock? Does it work if you disable Reclock?
1, 2, 3 & 4: No.
5: Yes I do use Reclock, I tried without it (default directsound device): no change.
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Old 18th November 2016, 22:41   #40186  |  Link
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you know you can use the advanced render steps setting to get the ms used by NGU.

EDIT:
ShowRenderSteps all over rendertimes 32 ms and without 21 ms.

well that's interesting...

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Old 18th November 2016, 22:45   #40187  |  Link
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Those of you with keyboard shortcuts (and probably NGU) not working:

1) Do you have f.lux running?
2) Or GpuZ?
3) Or FRAPS?
4) Or any other similar software which might access the GPU?
5) Do you use Reclock? Does it work if you disable Reclock?
1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No. I tried to disable my AV but still no.
5) No
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Old 18th November 2016, 22:50   #40188  |  Link
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Seems no scaler is working as IQ doesn't react to changes.
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:00   #40189  |  Link
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Would be great to get performance comparison results from different GPUs and OSs, NGU vs NNEDI3.
Win 10, GTX 970. NGU medium is about the same speed as NNEDI3 32 and NGU high about NNEDI3 128.
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:00   #40190  |  Link
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regsvr32 just hangs on Win10 (in VirtualBox).
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:01   #40191  |  Link
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Is it only me or the Ctlr+J shortcut is not working?
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:02   #40192  |  Link
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you know you can use the advanced render steps setting to get the ms used by NGU.
Forgot that this is possible, but I don't think it would show anything interesting in my case.
(a hotkey for it which would also listed in the hotkey list would be nice)
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:07   #40193  |  Link
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The Shortcuts are only working when the Video is running.

Performance:
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chroma and image doubling NGU High: 20s
chroma and image doubling NNedi 64: 22s
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:08   #40194  |  Link
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From my testing soften edges is a rewquirement for live action. NGU medium doubling seems manageable on my HD7770 for SD and 720p on a 1080 display as long as other settings are defaults. Very impressive and happy to replace SuperXR-AB+SR.
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:17   #40195  |  Link
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looks like NGU doesn't like IVTC images and MPEG2 compression artifacts:
doubling into spline3 AR

NGU medium: https://img3.picload.org/image/rdwlpoao/ngu.png
XBR100: https://img3.picload.org/image/rdwlpoap/xbr100.png
nnedi3 256 SR4: https://img1.picload.org/image/rdwlwgdg/nnedi3sr4.png
source: https://abload.de/img/source2beugl.png

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Old 18th November 2016, 23:17   #40196  |  Link
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I try find suitable settings for me. Some answers will be helpfull:

med vs high quality difference big, or it like nnedi 32 vs 64?
Using NGU (med) for chroma upsampling (chroma upscaling section) add extra quality (vs bicubik 75, for example)? Or i just waste gpu resources?

In personal teste, these differences not obvious for me. Anyway, NGU looks great, even without SuperRes.
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:20   #40197  |  Link
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Is doubling worth it for 720p content on a 1080p monitor?
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:25   #40198  |  Link
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I noticed that AMD video color settings are not applied in fullscreen mode when 1080p video is playing on my 1080p screen. The only difference is that there is a "Crop 2" procedure applied during the render.
If I use MPC HC zoom feature and outzoom the color settings are applied. Is there any way to make it work ? I use a combination of Madvr and AMD video settings, works fine with all videos except 1080p.
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:26   #40199  |  Link
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For those of you with keyboard shortcuts and NGU not working, please try this test build:

http://madshi.net/madVR91b.rar

Does it fix the problem?
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Old 18th November 2016, 23:26   #40200  |  Link
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Is doubling worth it for 720p content on a 1080p monitor?
i recommend you to try it out and ask your eyes.
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