GUIDE: How to Decrypt/Rip Blu-Ray Discs (UPDATED!) *Information on HD-DVDs included*

[raymondtrudeau]

hi quadcore are you able to add how to split to dvd 9 and to burn to dvd or to a bd dvd 9 to the guide? thanks

[dat720]

Originally Posted by QuadcoreHD

Also, I'm not sure if TSMuxer is even specifically designed to use multiple cores anyway - anyone know for sure?

I highly doubt it, my Quad only goes to between 3 and 5% cpu usage when muxing, but the disk's are going nuts!!! theres no reason for a muxer to utilise multiple cores......

I think vendors need to stop making faster cpu's gpu's and ram, and concentrate somewhat on making 10 and 15k drives affordable, and maybe even step upto 600mbs sata

[MGSteve]

I find the RAID'd Raptors I've got to be quite quick - 130mb/s keeps up with most things

A Muxer has really no need for multiple threads, (well, at least in my experience), all of the work it tends to do is moving data around, not translation from one format to another.

[daveyd]

How do most of you guys store ripped Blu Ray discs? NAS? SAN?

For my home theater, I have a Samsung 1400 Blu ray player and a Samsung 58" Plasma...I would like to get into the HTPC arena and be able to stream ripped Blu Ray Discs to my TV and am trying to figure out the best way to do it.

If BR discs are on average 30-40GB, a 4TB NAS could "only" hold 90-100 or so rips. Is compressing them worth losing any video or audio quality?

If I were to build a HTPC and connect it to a NAS, what would be best way be to be able to play the rips to my TV, retaining 1080p video and HD audio? I would like to be able to stream BRs to any plasmas (I have 3) in my house. I wired my house with CAT6 and am connected via Gigabit ethernet.

[QuadcoreHD]

If you have a 58" 1080p televesion I would not recommend compressing to 720P - you will definitely notice a considerable loss in picture quality. If you're pretty nuts about your picture (I watch all my BR/HD-DVDs on 120 inch screen with a Panasonic PT-AE200U 1080P projector) as I am, you must keep these in 1080P. You probably wont notice a difference on anything 42' or under.

One thing to note is that while BR discs are not 30-40GB on average - that number is closer to 20-30GB and less if you remove the additional audio tracks and extra features. I've found that (using my method) most discs are between 15 and 25GB, completely uncompressed in an .ISO.

I'm not familiar with NAS or SAN systems (maybe you can elaborate) but I simply store the ISO's on an array of hard-drives and queue up and play from my computer - which is hooked up DVI to the projector. 1TB drives are dirt cheap now, I have a couple from Western Digital which are around $200 at circuit city now. From what it sounds like you're not working with much of a budget, so I'm sure you could fine a more integrated/streamlined solution.

-Q

[daveyd]

Originally Posted by QuadcoreHD

If you have a 58" 1080p televesion I would not recommend compressing to 720P - you will definitely notice a considerable loss in picture quality. If you're pretty nuts about your picture (I watch all my BR/HD-DVDs on 120 inch screen with a Panasonic PT-AE200U 1080P projector) as I am, you must keep these in 1080P. You probably wont notice a difference on anything 42' or under.

One thing to note is that while BR discs are not 30-40GB on average - that number is closer to 20-30GB and less if you remove the additional audio tracks and extra features. I've found that (using my method) most discs are between 15 and 25GB, completely uncompressed in an .ISO.

I'm not familiar with NAS or SAN systems (maybe you can elaborate) but I simply store the ISO's on an array of hard-drives and queue up and play from my computer - which is hooked up DVI to the projector. 1TB drives are dirt cheap now, I have a couple from Western Digital which are around $200 at circuit city now. From what it sounds like you're not working with much of a budget, so I'm sure you could fine a more integrated/streamlined solution.

-Q

Yea, I a definitely a 1080p nut. I figure why spend tons of money on a Blu ray Player and a large 1080p Plasma and not enjoy the native resolution.

A NAS (Network Attached Storage) or SAN (Storage Area Network) are basically large arrays of Disks separate from your host computer used for storage. I was thinking of getting a 4TB or so array.

I am definitely just interested in getting just the movie and the accompanying HD audio track since my audio Amp can decode all HD audio.

What would be the best way to "stream" the ripped Blu Ray movies to my TV. An HTPC attached to the TV or by some other means?

I like the "cleanness" of ISOs and would like to rip them all to ISO format. I do believe the XBOX 360 cannot stream ISOs? I know the regular XBOX can but I don't believe it can handle HD content very well?

All in all, i would like to have a video/audio server that you can have the ability to access from any of my TVs in my house and be able to choose what movies/music you want to watch or listen to from the TV (in 1080p of course)

[EPiPH0NE]

Originally Posted by daveyd

Yea, I a definitely a 1080p nut. I figure why spend tons of money on a Blu ray Player and a large 1080p Plasma and not enjoy the native resolution.

A NAS (Network Attached Storage) or SAN (Storage Area Network) are basically large arrays of Disks separate from your host computer used for storage. I was thinking of getting a 4TB or so array.

I am definitely just interested in getting just the movie and the accompanying HD audio track since my audio Amp can decode all HD audio.

What would be the best way to "stream" the ripped Blu Ray movies to my TV. An HTPC attached to the TV or by some other means?

I like the "cleanness" of ISOs and would like to rip them all to ISO format. I do believe the XBOX 360 cannot stream ISOs? I know the regular XBOX can but I don't believe it can handle HD content very well?

All in all, i would like to have a video/audio server that you can have the ability to access from any of my TVs in my house and be able to choose what movies/music you want to watch or listen to from the TV (in 1080p of course)

www.popcornhour.com

[raymondtrudeau]

is it possible to use popcornhour to watch my blueray movies copied using anydvd then saving as iso on a 500gb hard drive on my sanyo z2000 projector?

[QuadcoreHD]

I'm not very familiar with popcorn hour, but after reading up for a few minutes I see no reason this wouldn't work with the method in the guide.

[daveyd]

I might have to give Popcorn Hour a try. I like the fact that it can play BR iso files. I have isos of SD movies. I like the clean 1 file name format of isos.

I did read that it was having issues bitstreaming TrueHD and DTS-HD. I might have to wait until they come out with a firmware upgrade.

At $215+ a pop, I should almost get a BR player for each TV in each room

[EPiPH0NE]

NMT's will NOT play BluRay ISO's. It WiLL play SD DVD ISO's. It will play TS/M2TS files which is what I have been using for almost a year now for BluRay/HD-DVD and now it will also play 1080p ES streams in MKV thanks to Haali I have the A-100 and use (L)PCM for HD audio but the A-110 adds, or at least supposed to, bit streaming of all HD audio formats but my AVR only does (L)PCM so I always do DTS-MA/TrueHD -> PCM 5.1. I had a BluRay guide similar to this one on their forums a long time ago but took it down. I am personally waiting for cheaper BluRay players or a crack for the PS3 to justify the $400 price tag.

[QuadcoreHD]

FYI the PS3 is definitely the best stand-alone BR player on the market considering it's always going to be compatibile with the newest BR profile - oh and it plays PS3 games also. Funny I'm saying this considering I'm a die-hard Xbox fan LOL.

Also on a side note, can anyone explain the advantages of using something like Popcornhour as opposed to just hooking up TVs/Projectors etc...directly to a computer via DVI?

[EPiPH0NE]

Originally Posted by QuadcoreHD

FYI the PS3 is definitely the best stand-alone BR player on the market considering it's always going to be compatibile with the newest BR profile - oh and it plays PS3 games also. Funny I'm saying this considering I'm a die-hard Xbox fan LOL.

Also on a side note, can anyone explain the advantages of using something like Popcornhour as opposed to just hooking up TVs/Projectors etc...directly to a computer via DVI?

LOL...I had an Xbox 1(Matrix no-sod) and now have an Xbox 360(FLashed) and I only ever used them for gaming which I don't do much of. As far as advantages with the an NMT I don't think there really are any except the price. An NMT is always gonna be cheaper then even a 'cheap' HTPC but you can technically do more with an HTPC. It depends on your current hardware set up. If you HAVE to have FLAC you will need an HTPC for now. If you don't wanna spend the time and money on an HTPC and still want rock solid media performance than pick an NMT. Considering my NMT has pretty much been a combo BluRay/HD-DVD player out of the box since Nov. '07 for $179 i think it was well worth it but then again I already had a BD-rom drive and an HD-DVD-rom drive and not every body has those yet so it was an easy choice for me. Plus all my older Sigma based players where always solid.

[Salehi]

Is it possible to add subtitle or audio stream to Blu-ray or HD-DVD without any change in menu. please someone answer. Possible???

[SamuriHL]

No tool that I know of allows you to do that. You have to remaster it with TSMuxer in order to add/remove streams and presentation graphics. Hopefully some day this will be possible but I don't believe it is today.

[Salehi]

So there is no tools like MuxMan and IFOUpdate to add subtitle and audio stream to blue-ray and keep menu??

[SamuriHL]

Nope. Blu-ray is a pretty new format and the tools for it aren't developed. This isn't nearly as simple as a DVD structure. Blu-ray has many complexities to it that make such tools difficult to write. They will come over time.

[raymondtrudeau]

well this is my first try at backing up a blu-ray...i have a external lite on blu-ray rom and i have tsmuxer gui installed on my computer.. i went to the first step .......After inserting BD disc into your machine, navigate to the folder titled "PLAYLIST"
-Select largest (in actual kb size) .mpls file. I have yet to see where this file NOT the playlist for the main move.
-Open this directly with TSMuxer

i iam trying saw 4 but when i select the largest mpls file (0000) i get a massage saying 1.cant find tsmuxer or depended library and 2. "can't detect stream type..K:/bdmv/stream/00000.m2ts.......

is it possible to use a external blu ray for this purpose

[QuadcoreHD]

@raymondtrudeu

First off be careful of cross-posting. I'm not a mod obviously but just an FYI.

Now, to try and help out:

In this case I would try and decrypt the entire disc with AnyDVD to your hard-drive first THEN use tsmuxer. I think I've had this problem before - for some reason I got that error when accessing files on the the disc directly with TsMuxer even when AnyDVD was running.

Let me know if this helps, if not, we'll try other options.

-Q

[raymondtrudeau]

Originally Posted by QuadcoreHD

@raymondtrudeu

First off be careful of cross-posting. I'm not a mod obviously but just an FYI.

Now, to try and help out:

In this case I would try and decrypt the entire disc with AnyDVD to your hard-drive first THEN use tsmuxer. I think I've had this problem before - for some reason I got that error when accessing files on the the disc directly with TsMuxer even when AnyDVD was running.

Let me know if this helps, if not, we'll try other options.

-Q

anydvd will see my external drive as k drive but when i try to rip it to the hard drive it says drive k is not ready? i tried to reboot,restart anydvd...and no luck...
maybe my computer is to old..it is e machines c 3060
amd sempron 3000+, 1.99 ghz, 1 g ram...i believe it is only single core....is this it?