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24th September 2012, 17:31 | #14101 | Link |
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Thanks Madshi, maybe we are talking of different things I am not sure. But TMT and PDVD both are able to use "Overlay over EVR" - not the old style Overlay, but maybe not your W7 special either I am honestly not sure - and they work with AMD as well as NVidia. The method they use also used to work via VMR9 too. It was Arcsoft support who first used the term "Overlay over EVR" to describe what they were doing.
And thanks for clearing up your intentions regarding FSE and overlay modes. Sounds like FSE is still the way to go for guaranteed smooth playback. |
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http://www.mediafire.com/?2ztgv6cil2rt4oa The madVRbudtz build works for me in FSE as well, but it seems to have a side-effect which causes opening, switching, and reloading videos to take a few seconds longer than normal. Last edited by cyberbeing; 24th September 2012 at 17:53. |
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Small video fragments have the additional benefit that you can capture things that go away fast (ie. that showing only during a very short time.) |
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24th September 2012, 18:05 | #14105 | Link |
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Wooow, this v0.83.2 is even better :
- Windows resizing looks better (no black windows anymore) and is faster when using the mouse the resize. - On exiting the player MPC-HC/Potplayer are reacting instantaneous. Overlay is going to be my default setting as it seems very stable, very fast and goes perfect together with the players's OSD (J.River full screen OSD, Potplayer FS OSD) I used FSE before, but this didn't go to well together with the Players's OSD. Overlay is like the best of 2 worlds !! -- Nvidia GTX-570 / /Latest WHQL 306.23 driver / CPU: i7-Hexacore 970 @3.9GHz / Win7 SP1 all updates Last edited by Pat357; 24th September 2012 at 18:17. |
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So far, so good. That build may have resolved both problems. Opening, switching, and reloading videos is fast again as well.
One small glitch which causes the OSD to show unrealistic 268435456-0 queue values when first opening videos, but that's probably harmless. |
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All queues, and it's reproducible most of the time. It goes away as soon as the queues begin to fill.
Correction: The video starts playing while it shows the glitched queues for ~1 second, then it shows empty queues for ~1 second, at which point it jumps directly to showing the queues completely full and functioning normally. As far as I can tell it's a purely cosmetic OSD issue, which doesn't have any effect on playback. Last edited by cyberbeing; 24th September 2012 at 19:05. |
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It turns out the same queue glitch issue exists in the normal 0.83.2 release build, so it has nothing to do with your recent changes in these test builds.
If I enable 'delay playback start' it follows the same pattern, except it shows 0-0 instead of 268435456-0 during the first step. Edit: The queue OSD glitch appears to have been introduced in madVR 0.83.0 Last edited by cyberbeing; 24th September 2012 at 19:37. |
24th September 2012, 20:09 | #14112 | Link |
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madVR v0.83.3 released
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* maybe fixed: shutdown freezes in certain situations with MPC-HC * fixed: shutdown crash * fixed: glitch in the debug OSD * improved "look" when moving Overlay window with Aero on |
24th September 2012, 20:15 | #14113 | Link |
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Uh, the new seekbar looks horrible, I liked it when it was small =).
Though I also like the timer. Any chance to get a small pop-up when hovering over the seekbar showing the time for that position? And of course a size option... you should add a new category for appearance options. |
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Haha, I guess I can't please everybody. Many people asked for a bigger seekbar. And the small bar had no place for a timer. Anyway, many things in madVR are currently not in their final form or state. I don't want to add customization options for something that's not in its final form yet, so that will have to wait...
A popup would be difficult to implement. Possible yes, but no time for that at the moment. |
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As far as video smoothness and performance is concerned, it definitely seems better. Resizing is perhaps slightly worse, but resizing wasn't great before anyway. Old windowed mode: frame pauses and is resized with the window. Windowed overlay: frame pauses and window resizes over the image, with the image being updated only when resizing stops. Assuming there are no colour/calibration issues (something I don't have the time to check right now) what I'm wondering now, is whether it's worth using Windowed Overlay instead of Fullscreen Exclusive? Going fullscreen with Windowed Overlay is much quicker than switching to Fullscreen Exclusive if you don't need to change refresh rate (30p at 60Hz) and it seems to perform well, avoid tearing/dropped frames. Quote:
Thanks for adding the times to the seekbar in fullscreen exclusive mode. It's been so long now that I had gotten used to it, but it's very nice to have it back. I'm not keen on the appearance of the big seekbar now, but that's only a minor cosmetic issue. I have run into a strange issue when evaluating Windows 8 though. madVR is only switching to 59.94 and 23.976 in Fullscreen Exclusive mode, not 60.0 and 24.0 as specified. It reports that it is running at 60/24 on the desktop in the new windowed overlay mode though. Also: none of the current workarounds to get DVD playback working with madVR seem to be working for me on Windows 8 so I am getting Macrovision errors again. I realise this is a low priority issue for you though. Quote:
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also what does that gamma ramp setting do? when is it usefull and when should it be disabled? |
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madshi, using the new 0.83.3. I got a popup just now as I was testing it for the first time, asking did I want to send the bug report but it wouldn't send so I clicked on close program. I don't see any log on the desktop.
mpc-hc is set to go to fullscreen (madVR FSE) immediately, but as the video was starting to play I double clicked to try to get it into windowed overlay mode, and then this immediately happened. Is going from FSE to overlay windowed known to be like this or is it useful for me to turn on debugging and try to reproduce and send on? This is nVidia GTX 295 with the latest WHQL drivers. EDIT: Yeah starting a clip immediately into fullscreen exclusive, and as its loading, going to windowed overlay I can reproduce every time now by the looks of it. Is this something you can reproduce an issue with on your end. Otherwise I can send on anything thats of help. Last edited by mark0077; 24th September 2012 at 21:08. |
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