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Old 18th November 2015, 19:05   #34301  |  Link
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@madashi in the latest build nnedi3 is not working.even if nnedi3 is selected in chroma upscaling or image doubling,it is showing JINC3.
But super-xbr is working.please look into it.
I was using 0.89.5 from here and my NNEDI3 also stopped working, even if I selected all NNEDI256 settings I was just seeing JINC>JINC>JINC in the OSD with 12ms render times. My guess is it might have been that new Windows10 November update that broke it(?). I updated to the new v0.89.17 and new NVIDIA drivers and all seems well now, NNEDI3 working and GPU usage back to space heater levels .


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Forgot to mention I also updated my version of MPC-HC to 1.7.10 at that time as well.
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Old 18th November 2015, 19:24   #34302  |  Link
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It was broken because Nvidia removed an OpenCL extension which was used for NNEDI3, so madshi had to use a different one with newer madVR versions.
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Old 18th November 2015, 19:47   #34303  |  Link
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I'm in the market for a new (well, potentially old and used to save money) graphics card. Does anybody off the top of their heads remember what if any current issues exist with madVR, Win10, and Nvidia vs. AMD with respect to feature support and/or performance? I know the Nvidia issue in recent drivers with the OpenCL interop to use NNEDI3 was just resolved. Thanks.
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Old 18th November 2015, 19:54   #34304  |  Link
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It was broken because Nvidia removed an OpenCL extension which was used for NNEDI3, so madshi had to use a different one with newer madVR versions.
I had been using the correct Nvidia drivers to work around that issue until I think v0.89.3 had the new dx11 open cl interop where NNEDI3 worked with then current drivers. NNEDI3 was working for me up until at least 5-6 days ago when I was playing with other options in madVR. This is why I think it might have happened with the new win10 update since I only did that 2-3 days ago and hadn't watched much to notice it was missing.
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Old 18th November 2015, 20:00   #34305  |  Link
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Ah, yes. The build upgrade uninstalled the OpenCL/cuda driver, I lost driver profile settings as well.
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Old 18th November 2015, 20:59   #34306  |  Link
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Hi,

What are the best settings with a Nvidia 960 video card ?

Currently, this what I use (outptut is set to 3840 x 2160 pixels (UHD TV) on the Nvidia control panel).

Jinc AR (chroma/luma upscale)
Catmull Rom AR LL (image downscaling)

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PS: Why we can't choose "taps" anymore with the Jinc algorythm ?

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Old 19th November 2015, 00:47   #34307  |  Link
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Jinc taps were removed because most people thought 3 tap was strictly better than 4 tap, and there wasn't a reason to choose 4 over 3.
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Old 19th November 2015, 12:37   #34308  |  Link
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Jinc taps were removed because most people thought 3 tap was strictly better than 4 tap, and there wasn't a reason to choose 4 over 3.
That, and other people were choosing 8 because more is better, right? When in fact the quality was equivalent at best, while slowing things down a lot.
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Hi,

What are the best settings with a Nvidia 960 video card ?

Currently, this what I use (outptut is set to 3840 x 2160 pixels (UHD TV) on the Nvidia control panel).

Jinc AR (chroma/luma upscale)
Catmull Rom AR LL (image downscaling)

Thx

PS: Why we can't choose "taps" anymore with the Jinc algorythm ?
I would add image doubling. super-xbr or low values of NNEDI3 luma doubling would improve the image further.

You could also add SuperRes from upscaling refinement to make the image sharper. SuperRes + enhance detail is another possibility.
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Old 20th November 2015, 00:50   #34310  |  Link
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I had been using the correct Nvidia drivers to work around that issue until I think v0.89.3 had the new dx11 open cl interop where NNEDI3 worked with then current drivers. NNEDI3 was working for me up until at least 5-6 days ago when I was playing with other options in madVR. This is why I think it might have happened with the new win10 update since I only did that 2-3 days ago and hadn't watched much to notice it was missing.
Reinstall your drivers with a clean install. I had to do this recently after updating cos NNEDI3 broke again but strangely only the 64bit version.
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Old 20th November 2015, 01:05   #34311  |  Link
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What Chroma should I use

I have a 4K TV that can do Chroma Sampling
8bit @ YCbCR 4:2:0, 4:2:2, 4:4:4 & RGB 4:4:4
10bit & 12bit @ YCbCr 4:2:0, 4:2:2
I'm just wondering what I should use. I mostly have 8bit movies though I do have some 10 bit Animes. I have a GTX 980ti for anyone wondering. Any benefit to changing 8Bit 4:4:4 to 12bit 4:2:2?
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Old 20th November 2015, 01:33   #34312  |  Link
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I have a 4K TV that can do Chroma Sampling
8bit @ YCbCR 4:2:0, 4:2:2, 4:4:4 & RGB 4:4:4
10bit & 12bit @ YCbCr 4:2:0, 4:2:2
I'm just wondering what I should use. I mostly have 8bit movies though I do have some 10 bit Animes. I have a GTX 980ti for anyone wondering. Any benefit to changing 8Bit 4:4:4 to 12bit 4:2:2?
I'd go for the 8 bit RGB 4:4:4. If you use ordered dithering or error diffusion then seeing the difference between 8 bit and 12 bit is nearly impossible. The difference between 4:4:4 and 4:2:2 is a lot easier to see if you know where to look.
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Old 20th November 2015, 03:24   #34313  |  Link
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madshi have you found how fix the stuttering when open a file and go to fullscreen?
no one experienced this? i'm on windows 10, with 2 monitors cloned
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I'd go for the 8 bit RGB 4:4:4. If you use ordered dithering or error diffusion then seeing the difference between 8 bit and 12 bit is nearly impossible. The difference between 4:4:4 and 4:2:2 is a lot easier to see if you know where to look.
I strongly agree!
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Is it me or the latest madvr versions take screenshots in 16-235 instead of 0-255? EVR cp is ok.

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Old 20th November 2015, 13:55   #34316  |  Link
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Argh. Ok, can you create another log with the next madVR build? I've added some more logging output, maybe it helps me finding out what's going on there.
That is another log. Thanks!
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Is it me or the latest madvr versions take screenshots in 16-235 instead of 0-255? EVR cp is ok.
did a short test and it's working fine for me.

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Os is windows 10 build 1511 ,nvidia gtx 980 and latest nvidia driver version 358.91 .NNEDI3 was working on madvr 0.89.16. but in 0.89.17 NNEDI3 is not enabled.It goes to JINC
this is looking fine to me and is works fine for me too with these driver and OS.
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Old 20th November 2015, 20:31   #34318  |  Link
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I think of MPC-HC as the perfect player in every possible way, but there's literally one thing about it that I dislike, and not only I dislike it, I hate it. I can't stand the seekbar, it's the only thing I have enabled on the UI because it's the only thing that I need, but the thing sticks out like a sore thumb. Looking at it makes me irritable. I tried MPC-BE just for this change, and it's slightly better, but still looks very 2003 design wise (gradient and such).

I like the fullscreen exclusive seekbar of madvr because it only appears in fullscreen mode, but I also dislike the purple color, the font, and background (ideally I would love to only have the time and the bar without background). My question is, any chance you could add an option in the future to modify this bar via images or something like that?
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What exactly does enhance detail do?
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What exactly does enhance detail do?
Heh, I too would like to know.
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