Moonlight .MP4 dshow Demultiplexer beta released (supports avc-in-mp4)

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by timeismoney
pogo stick, I downloaded and tried your avc1 mp4 from here, using MPC
Use moonlight show error message

You should try our H.264 Decoder, but picture crashed sometimes.

Originally posted by timeismoney
... because of s264 and avc1's support

Fixed 8)

Originally posted by timeismoney
So I made a little modify that change moonlight's s264 to avc1, it appears correct video but when seeking or switching between 2 audio channels, MPC crashed...
I have no other mp4 clips with multi audio channels, so Lupus_aka_Den, is it a bug? please check it if you don't mind
Thank you.

I tried render Kiki.mp4 in graphedit. Working without graphedit crash
Two Odio-Dekodas, our H.264 decoder...

[timeismoney]

Originally posted by Lupus_aka_Den
our Moonlight AMR Decoder (AMR NB, early beta version, available soon for downloading)

Glad to hear that and wish to be release soon...

Originally posted by Lupus_aka_Den
I try render Kiki.mp4 in graphedit. Working without graphedit crash
Two Odio-Decodas, our H.264 decoder...

That test I use ffdshow as video decoder and coreaac as audio decoder

last test I use ffdshow as audio decoder, switch audio channels won't crash but seek still cause crash

I'd try moonlight Odio-Decodas and H.264 decoder for next test soon, thank you.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Okay... What's the bottom line with this de-multiplexer... Is it worth the effort... yet?

I've tried it with Moonlight's Mpeg4 and h.264 filters and I'm sorry to say I wasn't that impressed... Apart from the annoying "logos", both seemed rather sluggish. And neither appeared to detect PAR signalling!


Cheers

[Lupus_aka_Den]

I send a letter to Milan about some specific information for decoder (decoder info and sample organization). I'll find out what should be transmitted to ffdshow decoder so that it operates correctly with my demuxer. As soon as it is implemented the new version will be released.

[timeismoney]

Originally posted by Lupus_aka_Den
I send a letter to Milan about some specific information for decoder (decoder info and sample organization). I'll find out what should be transmitted to ffdshow decoder so that it operates correctly with my demuxer. As soon as it is implemented the new version will be released.

Maybe it's the keystone.

I tried Odio Dekoda and moonlight h264 decoder, well there is no crash

Then I use moonlight h264 video decoder + ffdshow or coreaac, there is no crash, either

The last test is use ffdshow as video decoder, well, both Odio Dekoda and other decoder - I mean the seeking or switching crash appear again.

So maybe it is because of ffdshow video deocder Vs. moonlight mp4 demuxer. They're not very friendly. Keep in touch with milan will help, hehe...

Thank you.

By the way, use Odio Dekoda as audio decoder, the beginning 2 or 3 sec will have a short discordant sound, then Ok.

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Okay... What's the bottom line with this de-multiplexer... Is it worth the effort... yet?

I think it is too early to draw an ultimate conclusion about the demuxer, as it is the beta version only. 8)

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I've tried it with Moonlight's Mpeg4 and h.264 filters and I'm sorry to say I wasn't that impressed... Apart from the annoying "logos"

Both decoders are evualation versions

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by timeismoney
I tried Odio Dekoda and moonlight h264 decoder, well there is no crash
Then I use moonlight h264 video decoder + ffdshow or coreaac, there is no crash, either

It's good 8)

Originally posted by timeismoney
The last test is use ffdshow as video decoder, well, both Odio Dekoda and other decoder - I mean the seeking or switching crash appear again. So maybe it is because of ffdshow video deocder Vs. moonlight mp4 demuxer. They're not very friendly.

Exactly 8) I'll try to fixed it

Originally posted by timeismoney
By the way, use Odio Dekoda as audio decoder, the beginning 2 or 3 sec will have a short discordant sound, then Ok.

Thanks 8)

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Insert: support mp3-on-mp4 8)
Fixed: bag with large streams
Download an updated version of demixer from old link http://www.elecard.com/ftp/pub/mpeg/...a/MP4Demux.zip

[ac-chan123]

On wich Standard base your MP3 in .mp4 implementation? Is it MPEG4(ISO/IEC 14496) or MPEG-A?

[timeismoney]

I'm sorry but new version won't work with aac in mp4, both coreaac & ffdshow

Stream 0
Moonlight MP4 Demultiplexer

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {99C00BDC-3BF1-4889-9873-F1178D3C5679}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 23

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0000
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 16000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 0
nBlockAlign: 0
wBitsPerSample: 0
cbSize: 5 (extra bytes)


Media Type 1:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {CA9A0EDC-38B0-4FA6-B34A-3019543A0C57}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 23

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0000
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 16000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 0
nBlockAlign: 0
wBitsPerSample: 0
cbSize: 5 (extra bytes)


Media Type 2:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {000000FE-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 23

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0000
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 16000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 0
nBlockAlign: 0
wBitsPerSample: 0
cbSize: 5 (extra bytes)

This file played well with a previous version, that h264 with 2 audio channels file

And I test some other mp4, too, same result, I think there is something have mistake

PS: I unreg the previous version at first

[gotaserena]

I've managed to play aac, funnily. There's no support for 5.1. Codec of H.264 is changed to avc1 (thanks Lupus!) but seeking doesn't work.

[celtic_druid]

Coreaac reports 6 channels here for me and seeking seems to work fine. That is with the previous splitter though and ffdshow modified to handle s264.

With the current version audio is the same as reported by timeismoney, however on mine if registered Nero's audio decoder loads and then crashes. I haven't gotten around to installing Nero 6.6.0.1 yet though, perhaps that would help?

[gotaserena]

I just tried again and you are right, celtic_druid. Audio is 6 channels in CoreAAC. I guess I was confused by the fact that the MP4demux claims that the audio is "48000KHz16bitStereo".

And that's with version 1.0.3

EDIT: Another stream I just tried crashed when connecting to CoreAAC. I found out that the demuxer is reporting 3 different audio streams:
Major Type: Audio - Sub Type: {99C00BDC-3BF1-4889-9873-F1178D3C5679} - Format: WaveFormatEx: 48.000 KHz 16 bit stereo
Major Type: Audio - Sub Type: {CA9A0EDC-38B0-4FA6-B34A-3019543A0C57} - Format: WaveFormatEx: 48.000 KHz 16 bit stereo
Major Type: Audio - Sub Type: {000000FE-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} - Format: WaveFormatEx: 48.000 KHz 16 bit stereo
Which may be the cause for the crash. To add to the confusion, I tried another file with the same audio stream and got the right result:
Major Type: Audio - Sub Type: {000000FF-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} - Format: WaveFormatEx: 48.000 KHz 16 bit stereo
The first file had xvid video, whereas the second had x264.

I think that the problem may be in the descriptors and BIFS tracks in the mp4 file. The first file was muxed with MP4Box (and thus isma compliant), whereas the second was muxed with mp4creator, which does not yet have isma compliancy implemented for H.264. Maybe the demuxer is passing all non-video tracks as audio?

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by ac-chan123
On wich Standard base your MP3 in .mp4 implementation? Is it MPEG4(ISO/IEC 14496) or MPEG-A?

I used http://gpac.sourceforge.net/tutorial/mediatypes.htm and http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/sc29/ope.../29n5556t.doc.

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by timeismoney
I'm sorry but new version won't work with aac in mp4, both coreaac & ffdshow
This file played well with a previous version, that h264 with 2 audio channels file
And I test some other mp4, too, same result, I think there is something have mistake

It was a bag 8( I used objectTypeIndication
from http://gpac.sourceforge.net/tutorial/mediatypes.htm for AAC and MP3 identify. But in my streams, objectTypeIndication for AAC equal 0x64. Fixed. You can download un updated version. Thanks for bag 8)

Originally posted by timeismoney
PS: I unreg the previous version at first

It's not necessarily 8)

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by gotaserena
Codec of H.264 is changed to avc1 (thanks Lupus!) but seeking doesn't work.

ffdshow Video Decoder and Moonlight Mp4 Demuxer are not very friendly for the time being

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by gotaserena
I just tried again and you are right, celtic_druid. Audio is 6 channels in CoreAAC. I guess I was confused by the fact that the MP4demux claims that the audio is "48000KHz16bitStereo".

48.000 KHz 16 bit Stereo - this information contain in SampleDescriptionBox

Originally posted by gotaserena
Maybe the demuxer is passing all non-video tracks as audio?

Demuxer detect all non-video/audio stream, but all data for this track skipped (temporarily)

[celtic_druid]

New version working fine here. Seeking with ffdshow works, just not as well as with avi's.

[Lupus_aka_Den]

Originally posted by celtic_druid
New version working fine here. Seeking with ffdshow works, just not as well as with avi's.

Which version of ffdshow do you have? ffdshow-20041026 ?

[timeismoney]

Originally posted by celtic_druid
New version working fine here. Seeking with ffdshow works, just not as well as with avi's.

Yes, new version seeking with ffdshow for common mp4 works fine, but for h264 is not very stable, seeking or switching audio channel still easy to cause mpc crash - when disable video it never crash.

Wish Lupus and milan's communion will have some help for this small problem.

No matter at all, it's good work and worth expecting...

PS: I use ffdshow 20041012, celtic_druid's webpage I can hardly visit...