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Old 25th November 2019, 00:18   #57861  |  Link
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only sony and phillips are well known to support PC mode at all refreshrates without dumb things like forcing 3:2 judder that's a panasonic classic.

Cough.. also all Roku TVs support 23/24/30/60 w/ 4:4:4, RGB FULL.
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Old 25th November 2019, 00:20   #57862  |  Link
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The complete silence from Nvidia on HDMI 2.1 is quite unnerving.
For movies, it's not very useful.

The only uptick will be 4K120 and 8K60 for games. Buhh that's really far away GPU wise, so having 2.1 even in next generation isn't going to be critical.
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Old 25th November 2019, 02:11   #57863  |  Link
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Cough.. also all Roku TVs support 23/24/30/60 w/ 4:4:4, RGB FULL.
I have a TCL Series 6 Roku TV. It's an excellent display for madVR custom resolutions.
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Old 25th November 2019, 09:37   #57864  |  Link
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The complete silence from Nvidia on HDMI 2.1 is quite unnerving.
Such changes don't typically happen on minor card releases, those are just minor varients on boards they made years ago.

If anything you'll need to wait for the 3000 series for that.

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The only uptick will be 4K120 and 8K60 for games. Buhh that's really far away GPU wise, so having 2.1 even in next generation isn't going to be critical.
We already have cases today where games need to use 4:2:0 chroma or such nonsense to be able to bring their content to a screen, since not even 4K@60 10-bit HDR is possible right now. And higher refresh rates on 4K would finally make an argument for serious gamers to consider it.

So the next generation either needs the new DisplayPort, or HDMI 2.1, or ideally both.
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Old 25th November 2019, 13:11   #57865  |  Link
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What I'm afraid of is, seeing some display manufacturers right now don't even support the same processing quality when you go above 4:2:2, this is not going to get better soon if they have even more bandwidth to handle.
I'd certainly be happy if at one point we can just set RGB 10-bit for every refresh rate, but the graphics cards supporting this is only half of the problem.
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Old 25th November 2019, 13:48   #57866  |  Link
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Just a quick question ... I have only just noticed that MadVR, although the player was closed, is still loaded in RAM. Is this the way it is designed to run ? Is there switch in the UI to change that ? Thx.
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Old 25th November 2019, 14:29   #57867  |  Link
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Do you mean madHcCtrl.exe?
You can avoid that by clicking the tray icon => Edit Tray Icon Settings => "show tray icon when madVR is running" or "don't show tray icon" instead of "always show tray icon"
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Old 26th November 2019, 04:57   #57868  |  Link
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Use the suggested settings of madVR for custom refresh rate and create it with CRU:
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...on-Utility-CRU


Hi Klause!

The forum is more than 400 pages long. Do you happen to know which page? Better yet, maybe you can share it here? Thanks again


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Old 26th November 2019, 09:35   #57869  |  Link
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I think, i must be more precise:
In the past madVR was able to create custom reolutions and made them save in the driver, but newer drivers don‘t allow this anymore. But you can still use madVR to calculate the best custom resolution by playing a movie for at least 30 Minutes and then look up the suggested resolution specs. Then you use CRU to create the custom resolution with exactly that spec with CRU.
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Old 26th November 2019, 10:37   #57870  |  Link
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I think, i must be more precise:
In the past madVR was able to create custom reolutions and made them save in the driver, but newer drivers don‘t allow this anymore. But you can still use madVR to calculate the best custom resolution by playing a movie for at least 30 Minutes and then look up the suggested resolution specs. Then you use CRU to create the custom resolution with exactly that spec with CRU.
Here's an example with driver 385.28.
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page 1 would be a good start...


"custom mode tutorial"


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I have one question regarding the custom video modes on a nVidia card. I successully created a custom mode for 2160p and 23.976 Hz and got rid of frame drops / repeats. But when I look into the nVidia control panel, I can not switch the color depth to 12 bpc anymore - I need this for my 4k Blu-Rays. madvr also didn't switch automatically to this mode. Is this a limitation on madVR side or a problem with the nvidia driver? I use an older one currently 417.58

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Old 26th November 2019, 19:09   #57873  |  Link
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just use 8 and move on.

madVR should be able to switch to that mode but hard to see way this is not working on your side.
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Old 26th November 2019, 20:02   #57874  |  Link
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Hi, everyone.
Would you kindly tell me if the TV black level for HDR playback using madvr should be Full or Limited if madvr is set to 0-255?
For sdr content I have RGB full everywhere in the chain (PC, madvr, TV), like someone posted in this thread at some point, but I'm not sure if HDR content needs Limited Range.
Thank you!

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Old 26th November 2019, 20:08   #57875  |  Link
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same things for HDR and SDR.
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Old 26th November 2019, 20:10   #57876  |  Link
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same things for HDR and SDR.
Thank you for the prompt reply.
I'll probably have to decrease the brightness by 1 on my oled while watching HDR content since my blacks seem a bit elevated with the default 50 and RGB full.
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Old 26th November 2019, 23:56   #57877  |  Link
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if you have an nvidia card make sure you have the newest driver some older driver have risen black levels with hdr output
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Old 27th November 2019, 10:04   #57878  |  Link
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@huhn: I only need a confirmation if this is normal or not. As far as I can interpret your answer, madVR should be also able to switch automatically to 12 bpc on a custom video mode when needed. On my side this does not work.
So again my question: is madVR normally able to switch automatically between 8 and 12 bpc when neccessary on a custom video mode with a nVidia graphic card? The word "should" in an answer does not help btw. because it means that the person who answers also doesn't know. I also thought that it "should" do this but it doesn't on my side.

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Old 27th November 2019, 11:08   #57879  |  Link
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I use an older one currently 417.58
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answ...version-417.58

This is only a Hotfix driver, try latest driver 441.41.
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Old 27th November 2019, 12:02   #57880  |  Link
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Thank you Klaus, I know this. But do you have a madVR setup with a custom video mode for 23.976 Hz and does madVR automatically switch between 8 and 12 bpc on your system when this custom mode is used?
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