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subtitle question
just a quick one. if i have
[71 00 00 0E 00 45 00 00] Set gprm(14) =(mov) 69 and then [41 00 00 00 8E 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = gprm(14) what exactly do i get in the end? i mean, which subtitle number this selects? according to dvd shrink list, this would select subtitle #6. so when using SetSTN with gprm, gprms are starting from 64 for first subtitle stream? can someone confirm this? |
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Re: subtitle question
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[51 04 00 00 C0 00 00 09] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 0, on ; LinkPGCN PGC 9 Code:
[51 04 00 00 C1 00 00 09] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 1, on ; LinkPGCN PGC 9 Code:
[51 04 00 00 C2 00 00 09] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 2, on ; LinkPGCN PGC 9 Upon viewing the sprm(2) after selection... English > sprm(2)= 64 French > sprm(2) = 65 Espanol > sprm(2) = 66 None > sprm(2) = 0 I tested other DVDs other and yielded the same results.
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So why is this the command to turn all subbies off?
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[51 00 00 00 BE 00 00 00] 7 (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 62:none
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Edit: hmmm...let me get back to you on sprm(2). I'll see if I can get a reference. Update: Default sprm(2) is 62.
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My reference is 2COOL's guide on turning off subbies (hosted by rolz)
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Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Last edited by blutach; 10th November 2004 at 02:53. |
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In SetSTN, the value you use is the number of the subtitle (ie 0 to 31, or 62 for none selected, or 63 for forced) + 0x40 to turn the subtitle ON.
You MUST also set the bit 7 (0x80) to instruct SetSTN to change the subtitle assignment. Valid values are therefore: 128 to 159: Select subtitle 0-31 but don't turn it on. 192 to 223: Select subtitle 0-31, and turn it on. 190: Don't select any subtitle (leave the player decide) 255: Set forced subtitle When playing, the SPRM 2 will hold the same value ORed with 0x7F (ie, bit 7 is turned off): 0 to 31: Subtitle 0-31 selected but not displayed. 64 to 95: Subtitle 0-31 displayed. 62: Player decide. 127: Forced subtitle. The value 69 is therefore: Subtitle 5 displayed.
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Here were mpucoder's thoughts:
Stream 31 is not "off", it is just very unlikely that it will be present. There can be as many as 32 subpicture streams, numbered from 0 to 31 (0x00 to 0x1f, or substream numbers 0x20 to 0x3f). The designation for "off" is stream 62 (ox3e, combined with the required flag to cause the new value to be stored is 0xbe). I know IfoEdit is messed up in its interpretation, and we had a long thread about the values. Since that was awhile ago, it bears repeating. value meaning 00-7f will do nothing, bit 7 must be set to cause any change 80-9f stream 0 to 31 selected, but off a0-bd meaningless be no subpicture bf stream 0 forced, but off - ie, invalid c0-df stream 0 to 31 selected and displayed e0-fe meaningless ff stream 0 forced and displayed.
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Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Last edited by blutach; 10th November 2004 at 03:08. |
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Exactly what I said, but in hexadecimal!
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He is right... and wrong. When 'not set', the player may take the decision to select and turn on a subpic, based on the user's preferences. This is why it is best to use a stream explicitely turned off (values 128 to 159) to be sure the player won't select one.
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SPRM(2)'s Value When Setting SubPictures (SetSTN) Code:
Selected but OFF (not displayed) [51 00 00 00 80 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 0, off sprm(2) = 0 [51 00 00 00 81 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 1, off sprm(2) = 1 [51 00 00 00 82 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 2, off sprm(2) = 2 [51 00 00 00 83 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 3, off sprm(2) = 3 [51 00 00 00 84 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 4, off sprm(2) = 4 [51 00 00 00 85 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 5, off sprm(2) = 5 [51 00 00 00 86 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 6, off sprm(2) = 6 [51 00 00 00 87 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 7, off sprm(2) = 7 [51 00 00 00 88 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 8, off sprm(2) = 8 [51 00 00 00 89 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 9, off sprm(2) = 9 [51 00 00 00 8A 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 10, off sprm(2) = 10 [51 00 00 00 8B 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 11, off sprm(2) = 11 [51 00 00 00 8C 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 12, off sprm(2) = 12 [51 00 00 00 8D 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 13, off sprm(2) = 13 [51 00 00 00 8E 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 14, off sprm(2) = 14 [51 00 00 00 8F 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 15, off sprm(2) = 15 [51 00 00 00 90 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 16, off sprm(2) = 16 [51 00 00 00 91 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 17, off sprm(2) = 17 [51 00 00 00 92 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 18, off sprm(2) = 18 [51 00 00 00 93 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 19, off sprm(2) = 19 [51 00 00 00 94 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 20, off sprm(2) = 20 [51 00 00 00 95 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 21, off sprm(2) = 21 [51 00 00 00 96 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 22, off sprm(2) = 22 [51 00 00 00 97 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 23, off sprm(2) = 23 [51 00 00 00 98 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 24, off sprm(2) = 24 [51 00 00 00 99 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 25, off sprm(2) = 25 [51 00 00 00 9A 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 26, off sprm(2) = 26 [51 00 00 00 9B 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 27, off sprm(2) = 27 [51 00 00 00 9C 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 28, off sprm(2) = 28 [51 00 00 00 9D 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 29, off sprm(2) = 29 [51 00 00 00 9E 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 30, off sprm(2) = 30 [51 00 00 00 9F 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 31, off sprm(2) = 31 Subpictures OFF (Not displayed)(Default setting) [51 00 00 00 BE 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 62:none sprm(2) = 62 Selected and ON (displayed) [51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 0, on sprm(2) = 64 [51 00 00 00 C1 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 1, on sprm(2) = 65 [51 00 00 00 C2 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 2, on sprm(2) = 66 [51 00 00 00 C3 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 3, on sprm(2) = 67 [51 00 00 00 C4 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 4, on sprm(2) = 68 [51 00 00 00 C5 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 5, on sprm(2) = 69 [51 00 00 00 C6 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 6, on sprm(2) = 70 [51 00 00 00 C7 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 7, on sprm(2) = 71 [51 00 00 00 C8 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 8, on sprm(2) = 72 [51 00 00 00 C9 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 9, on sprm(2) = 73 [51 00 00 00 CA 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 10, on sprm(2) = 74 [51 00 00 00 CB 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 11, on sprm(2) = 75 [51 00 00 00 CC 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 12, on sprm(2) = 76 [51 00 00 00 CD 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 13, on sprm(2) = 77 [51 00 00 00 CE 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 14, on sprm(2) = 78 [51 00 00 00 CF 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 15, on sprm(2) = 79 [51 00 00 00 D0 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 16, on sprm(2) = 80 [51 00 00 00 D1 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 17, on sprm(2) = 81 [51 00 00 00 D2 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 18, on sprm(2) = 82 [51 00 00 00 D3 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 19, on sprm(2) = 83 [51 00 00 00 D4 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 20, on sprm(2) = 84 [51 00 00 00 D5 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 21, on sprm(2) = 85 [51 00 00 00 D6 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 22, on sprm(2) = 86 [51 00 00 00 D7 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 23, on sprm(2) = 87 [51 00 00 00 D8 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 24, on sprm(2) = 88 [51 00 00 00 D9 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 25, on sprm(2) = 89 [51 00 00 00 DA 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 26, on sprm(2) = 90 [51 00 00 00 DB 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 27, on sprm(2) = 91 [51 00 00 00 DC 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 28, on sprm(2) = 92 [51 00 00 00 DD 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 29, on sprm(2) = 93 [51 00 00 00 DE 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 30, on sprm(2) = 94 [51 00 00 00 DF 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 31, on sprm(2) = 95 Subpicture 0 is forced to display. The value of 63 is called a Dummy Stream value. [51 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 63:forced sprm(2) = 127
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You must turn the forced subpic ON, so last line should be:
[51 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 63:forced sprm(2) = 127
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Does this mean that we want the forced stream on in every instance? By forced stream, I understand this to mean, the occasional subtitles that display (such as the Japanese subbies in Kill Bill 1?) as opposed to the full dialogue. Is this correct? Regards
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[51 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00] (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 63:forced sprm(2) = 127
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