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Old 27th September 2009, 07:03   #1  |  Link
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Probs with Clint Eastwood HD-DVDs!!

Hi Guys and Gals...

First off, great forums... Ive been lurking around them for a while now, getting great info!

I've encountered a problem trying rip and re-encode 2 of my HD-DVDs (so I can watch them through VMC):

They are 'The Unforgiven' & 'Letters from Iwo Jima'

I've done all of my others without trouble (about 25 of them!) with the following process:

1. Remove protection with AnyDVD HD
2. Extract feature streams with Eac3to's HdBrStreamExtractor GUI (Video - MKV, Audio - AC3\FLAC & Chapters - TXT)
3. Remux with either MKV Merge - MKV or TsmuxeR - M2TS

When I point Eac3to to the main movie feature files, it crashes, or comes up with nothing at all. The additional features show up when I select them, just not the movie... It's got me beat!!

Other HD-DVD's work fine both before and after, and the movies play with PowerDVD fine from disk!

If anyone can give me some help I'd really appreciate it!!
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Old 27th September 2009, 16:07   #2  |  Link
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Hi!

Try the following slightly different procedure at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...83&postcount=1

Scroll about halfway down the page to the BOLD heading "HD-DVD"...
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Old 28th September 2009, 00:00   #3  |  Link
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Thanks a bunch for that... I'll give it a go when I get home.

Although I've found yesterday that I cannot even rip the disks to HDD with AnyDVD HD. It gets to about 50% and then errors.

I'll try that process from the disk.

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Old 28th September 2009, 00:29   #4  |  Link
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Odd thought, if I may:

If I remember correctly, both are dual format (HD-DVD and standard DVD) discs. Are you sure you're trying to read the right format?
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Old 28th September 2009, 00:35   #5  |  Link
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Heehehe... No problems!!!

Only the Letters from Iwo Jima is dual format, Unforgiven is straight HD-DVD.

I had had the same thought myself with 'letters', but when I direct HdBrStreamExtractor to find the files they are in the /HDDVD_TS/ folder, the same as the other HD-DVDs.

Then it shows all the different streams: Main Movie, and the extras, and when I hold the mouse over the main movie stream it shows 1080p vid and audio (whatever it is, can't remember!), but when I try to retrieve the individual streams from the main movie, it doesn't work at all, it also does not work directly from Eac3to (with the Eac3tomoreGUI).

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Old 9th October 2009, 00:35   #6  |  Link
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Okie Dokie, sorry about the delay, but I've been away and unable to muck around with this Rip!

I've tried a few different things, including the alternate method described in the post linked above, and still no joy!!

I have narrowed the issue down though!

If I demux and mux the first of the EVO's (PEVOB_1, if I recall) then I get half the movie done right. This is no matter whether I do it with EVOdemux, or via the methods I described in my first post.

It's only when I try and Include the 2nd EVO (PEVOB_2) that the programs crash. EVOdemux and eac3to both straight crash, and tsMuxeR just says it cannot detect the stream type.

I have alternately tried to Join the EVO's, without success.

It has now really got me stumped, as these are the only 2 I've had trouble with, and the movies play fine from the Disk!

If anyone can offer me any idea's I'd would be very grateful. Thanks
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Old 9th October 2009, 01:26   #7  |  Link
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1) Is the "PEVOB_2" filesize somewhyere near comparable to that of "PEVOB_1" (as it should be)? If not, look for another file of that approximate size.

2) And of course you're picking up "PEVOB_2.EVO" and not "PEVOB_2.MAP" (if any), right? ;>}
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Old 9th October 2009, 01:44   #8  |  Link
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Hi,

Yeah, the 2 EVO's are about 9 and 7 Gigs respectively.

And yeah, I'm picking up the EVO's... the MAP files wouldn't be of comparable size, would they?

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the MAP files wouldn't be of comparable size, would they?
Absolutely not! Just exploring any and all possibilities...
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Old 12th October 2009, 05:41   #10  |  Link
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Yeah, it's definitely the 2nd EVO file, it sounds like the drive is having trouble accessing when I direct any of the programs listed above to it. The first EVO is no problem.

I have the LG combo BR/HD-DVD drive (not burner), if that makes any difference.

Once again, I'm not sure why it's only these 2 disks that I have a problem with. I've ripped all my other HD-DVD's without problem.

Would appreciate any help anyone can offer!!

Thanks, OFD
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I don't know if the following is pertinent to your problem but, the following review of "The Unforgiven" HD-DVD included an interesting observation:

"The Unforgiven"

http://www.dvdreview.com/reviews/pages/2281.shtml

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(Note: have some serious problems running chapter 17-19 of the disc as the film would continuallly lock up the HD-A1 Toshiba HD-DVD player. I do suspect however that this is a problem with Toshiba's shoddy player and has nothing to do with the actual HD-DVD disc.)
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Hmmm... I wonder if I set up my Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive on my HTPC and try and rip it, whether that would make a difference?
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Trying an alternative piece of hardware is certainly worth the effort...
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OK PEOPLES!!!!!!

Just got home and plugged in my xbox 360 hd-dvd drive. Vista detected it and set it up no probs... I directed HdBrStreamextractor (eac3to GUI) to the HDDVD_TS folder and as we speak it is working it's magic!!!

Now, why this won't work on my LG Combo drive, I've got no idea? It's the GGC-H20L model.

Anyway setarip_old: thanks a bunch for your assistance! massive in the mail!!!

Cheers, OFD
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Anyway setarip_old: thanks a bunch for your assistance!
You're quite welcome ;>}

BTW - Sounds like your LG Combo drive either needs a cleaning or is slowly beginning to fail. You might try running a DVD/CD cleaning disc on it. Maxell makes one that sells for about $10US...
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Yeah, I'll give it a clean, and see what happens.

Interesting point though, is that these were not the last 2 I've tried to rip. I tried and failed, and then moved on to others, which ended up making these two the last two. So other disks have been successfully ripped on my LG drive...

I'm a little curious as to why that would be... I'm looking at buying 'Million Dollar Baby', so it'll be intersting to see if I encounter the same problem!!!

Cheers, OFD
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I'm looking at buying 'Million Dollar Baby'
Unless you're getting the HD-DVD version at an extremely low price, I'd suggest you purchase the BluRay version...
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Unless you're getting the HD-DVD version at an extremely low price
Is any other reason to buy HD-DVD?

Yeah, I really should start looking at Bluray disks now, but I seem to still be able to find great value HD-DVD's around the place (and there haven't been that many new movies i'd fork out $45 bucks for!).
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(and there haven't been that many new movies i'd fork out $45 bucks for!).
That's not in U.S. currency. At Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Million-Dollar...5588397&sr=1-1

BTW - JUst curious - Did you purchase the two Eastwood HD-DVDs as new or used?

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Australian $!!

Unforgiven was purchased 2nd hand from e-bay. Letters from Iwo Jima was purchased new from inet video (with a bunch of others).
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