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Old 16th August 2019, 14:50   #23581  |  Link
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Here is another "not helpful" comment...

If LAV Splitter and FFmpeg based source filters like FFMS2 and LSMASH all are buggy when it comes to opening OGG files then my conclusion is that the OGG format is obsolete or broken enough so that nobody cares to support it. Remux to MKV... (MP4 also works fine.)

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Old 16th August 2019, 15:32   #23582  |  Link
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It is possible that the audio track uses the even more ancient Vorbis ACM codec which is not fully compatible to the output of e.g. oggenc2.
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Old 16th August 2019, 21:26   #23583  |  Link
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Here is another "not helpful" comment...

If LAV Splitter and FFmpeg based source filters like FFMS2 and LSMASH all are buggy when it comes to opening OGG files then my conclusion is that the OGG format is obsolete or broken enough so that nobody cares to support it. Remux to MKV... (MP4 also works fine.)
You are correct

https://hardwarebug.org/2010/03/03/ogg-objections/
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Old 17th August 2019, 15:48   #23584  |  Link
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File plays ok with LAV 0.68.1-4, and got broken by FFmpeg update.
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Old 27th August 2019, 14:49   #23585  |  Link
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Looks like nobody care to open bug report on FFmpeg bug tracker.
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Old 27th August 2019, 16:00   #23586  |  Link
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Looks like nobody care to open bug report on FFmpeg bug tracker.
PERHAPS because most people already know there exists a not-very-smart gatekeeper named cehoyos...
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Old 29th August 2019, 00:13   #23587  |  Link
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Does LAV support Sony's 8-bit (non-standard) HLG mode they implemented in their cameras? The 0.74.1.20 LAV filters baked into MPC-HC 1.8.7 + madVR 0.92.17 don't seem to see it as HDR. It does recognize the BT.2020 or BT.709 color in the MP4 files correctly.
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Old 29th August 2019, 02:05   #23588  |  Link
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madVR doesn't support HLG.
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Old 29th August 2019, 18:34   #23589  |  Link
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PERHAPS because most people already know there exists a not-very-smart gatekeeper named cehoyos...
...but I think he deserves to be pestered anyway

New ticket opened @ trac-dot-ffmpeg-dot-org:

http://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/8105
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Old 30th August 2019, 07:16   #23590  |  Link
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And it already develops ... also into the opposite direction, though, they believe GPAC flagged the stream like MPEG-2 4:2:2 although it is 4:2:0, should have been multiplexed differently. Anyway, it is an "important" entry.
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Old 4th September 2019, 06:45   #23591  |  Link
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Hello, i use MPC BE with madVR and LAV filters.
Should i disable the internal filters in MPC BE to let LAV Filters work as external filter?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 4th September 2019, 07:03   #23592  |  Link
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Should i disable the internal filters in MPC BE to let LAV Filters work as external filter?
Yes, according to the MPC-BE developers.
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It's not a requirement for madVR to work however.
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Strange, because here https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...50#post1884050 users told me that i don't have to disable them.
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You don't have to but maybe LAV can do one or two things with MadVR that the BE internals do not and that was why they suggested it.. Is that still the case though?
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Well that's why i select lav filters as preferred.

Tried to disable them and in the right click->filters, i see MPC Video/Audio etc.

If i enable them, i see instead LAV Video/Audio/Splitter.

So i think maybe they do that one or two things you mention. I don't know. Or there is more i'm ignoring?
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Well that's why i select lav filters as preferred.
I do so too and uncheck internal filters, namely TS and Matroska, H264 and HEVC (they have more priority in MPC-BE over preferred external filters) to achieve LAV Filters be used at all (as you describe tough).
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I do so too and uncheck internal filters, namely TS and Matroska, H264 and HEVC (they have more priority in MPC-BE over preferred external filters) to achieve LAV Filters be used at all (as you describe tough).
Thank you!

But i have noticed that with matroska, the lav filters start just fine. This do not happens to you?

I found matroska in internal filters-> source filters, and HEVC/H264 in internal filters -> video decoder.

Is this the right way i should do this? Anyway i can't find TS.
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But i have noticed that with matroska, the lav filters start just fine. This do not happens to you?
I'm sorry - I don't understand your question exactly - just want to say I prefer use LAV Filters instead of any other splitters/demultiplexers/sources and decoders for all formats I use - containers TS, MKV, MP4 (forget to mention in previous post) and encoded MPEG2, H264, H265, VPx video so I do setting of Sources as in attach below. Btw it's not need in MPC-BE to uncheck any audeo decoders in internal filters in my case - prefer LAV Audio Decoder enough.
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I found matroska in internal filters-> source filters, and HEVC/H264 in internal filters -> video decoder. Is this the right way i should do this?
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I'm sorry - I don't understand your question exactly - just want to say I prefer use LAV Filters instead of any other splitters/demultiplexers/sources and decoders for all formats I use - containers TS, MKV, MP4 (forget to mention in previous post) and encoded MPEG2, H264, H265, VPx video so I do setting of Sources as in attach below. Btw it's not need in MPC-BE to uncheck any audeo decoders in internal filters in my case - prefer LAV Audio Decoder enough.

Yes.
Sadly the image you attached is still in pending approval. What i was saying is that in MPC BE if i right click and select "Filters" i can see that i'm using LAV with the files you mentioned, with all internal filters active and lav as preferred.

It was a reply to the fact that you said that lav is not chosen correctly even if selected as preferred with those files.

So i was asking if this was not happening to you. To be sure i disabled the internal filters you mentioned anyway.
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