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Old 13th October 2002, 12:19   #1  |  Link
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Help!!!!

Get Release Candidate 4. No new stuff will be added, only bugfixes. This is the full bundle. This gotta be the last RC.

The subject should attract a moderator or two Sorry. Anyhuu please, if you want, betatest the above, thanks. Any major bugs post them in this thread, but I beg of you, make as sure as you can that it is infact a bug
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Great "subject". I'm no moderator, but I think you should be striked for making me laugh so hard my stomach hurts. About time folks regained their sense of humour in here.

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Hello DVD2SVCD

I'm testing your beta release with 3 dvd's so far (only one chpater). Everything works fine with default settings and normal VBR mode (with subtitles, of course, you know me ).
I've tested also the new RoBa mode but it's not working perfectly. In these 3 DVD's i tested, only onde was successfully converted. CCE comes up with this error message:

cce_encoding_init() failed

Here is part of my log file (they are big now ):

Trying to load the DVD
Trying to load the DVD
No need to authenticate (was already) - OK.
Key found: E713B7964B
--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:05:19
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.0 build 1 BETA 3
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:05:21
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x24 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x25 Language: Italiano
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x26 Language: Espaņol
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Italiano
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Espaņol
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: Portugues
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
1 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 13-10-2002 17:06:43
- Free on drive C: 19828.95 mb
- Internal rip
--------------------------------------------------------
Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 4330

--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:07:35
- DVD2AVI
--------------------------------------------------------
Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\Movie\VTS_01_1.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:07:47
- Free on drive C: 19613.23 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
--------------------------------------------------------

Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: Portugues Num. of subs: 44

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
Permanent subtitles.
Saving Subtitles ini file
--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:08:08
- Free on drive C: 19611.51 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
--------------------------------------------------------
Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -280 ms
Audio extraction finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:08:23
- Free on drive C: 19599.27 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------

Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\DVD2SV~1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\DVD2SV~1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -280 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:09:15
- Free on drive C: 19592.13 mb
- Converting Pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
Converting: C:\DVD2SVCD110Beta3\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
- 13-10-2002 17:09:21
- Free on drive C: 19591.34 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 833937188
AudioSectors: 7727300
VideoPAPO: 12798432
ScanOffsetBytes: 8018
SeqAligningBytes: 509614
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 812893819.73
Seconds: 272.28
CalcMPEGStream: 812893819.73
Frames: 6682
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 6682
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 2
Image Quality: 10
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: RoBa Multipass VBR (a mix between 1-pass and multipass encoding)
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Q. Factor: 5
Avg. Bitrate: 2230
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SV~1\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SV~1\AVISYN~1.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD2SV~1\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD2SV~1\Movie\subs\","permsubs.txt")
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.680
Video Encoding finished.


Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 833937188
AudioSectors: 7727300
VideoPAPO: 12798432
ScanOffsetBytes: 8018
SeqAligningBytes: 509614
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 812893819.73
Seconds: 272.28
CalcMPEGStream: 812893819.73
Frames: 6682
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
StreamSectors: 1666479976
AudioSectors: 7785400
VideoPAPO: 25694064
ScanOffsetBytes: 8018
SeqAligningBytes: 509614
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1632482871.73
Seconds: 274.28
CalcMPEGStream: 1632482871.73
Frames: 6682
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 795.00
StreamSectors: 2497628364
AudioSectors: 7841176
VideoPAPO: 38568132
ScanOffsetBytes: 8018
SeqAligningBytes: 509614
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 2450701411.73
Seconds: 276.28
CalcMPEGStream: 2450701411.73
Frames: 6682
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 3
Cut point 795.00
StreamSectors: 3327382352
AudioSectors: 7899276
VideoPAPO: 51420564
ScanOffsetBytes: 8018
SeqAligningBytes: 509614
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 16
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 3267544863.73
Seconds: 278.28
CalcMPEGStream: 3267544863.73
Frames: 6682
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1197
Cut point 795.00
StreamSectors: -732231976
AudioSectors: 75667116
VideoPAPO: -12514788
ScanOffsetBytes: 8018
SeqAligningBytes: 509614
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4792
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 359100.00
PureMPEGStream: -795906728.27
Seconds: 2666.28
CalcMPEGStream: -795906728.27
Frames: 6682
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1198
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 6682
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 2
Image Quality: 10
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: RoBa Multipass VBR (a mix between 1-pass and multipass encoding)
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Q. Factor: 5
Avg. Bitrate: -2389
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SV~1\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\DVD2SV~1\AVISYN~1.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD2SV~1\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD2SV~1\Movie\subs\","permsubs.txt")
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Please note the negative value in the Avg. Bitrate. Maybe this is the problem. I have attached the complete log.
Hope i can continue helping you in the developing of this great program.
You're the man

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Yes, the RoBa method is quite unstable. All I can suggest is try using CCE 2.62 safemode, I believe Bach has had the most success with this. All in all I'd stick with the 4 pass VBR.

Edit:
Yes, it is definatly not good with a negative Bitrate. Maybe I should disable RoBa and do some testing on it. (btw, roba is actually not meant for chapters, but complete dvd's, otherwise I fear as in your case that it will fail)
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Thanks for the new beta, D2S, I'll be doing my own wave of testing starting here shortly
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Ok, i'll try to full encode one of those problematic DVD's and see if it goes succesfully.
Other thing, did you take a look at that Taxi 2 data regarding another subs issue?
Well, i have a workaround for those weird DVD's: use of textsub.vdf and a SSA file Just to check

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Yes, I think I did, it is some time ago though, and my ram is not what it used to be.
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i just downloaded the new beta i'm going to do a full ntsc movie tonight so i'll post back if i notice anything out of the ordinary.

Edit: ok its 8:34 pm here i'm starting the first movie with the beta
the movie i'm doing first off is called "Frailty" btw its a very good movie, a bit strange which in my eyes is always nice
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OT: Strange... If you want strange but very cultish, try Donnie Darko
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I really like the 'use frame selection'. Its perfect for the conversion of DVB-Streams.
Thanks.
edit: Very handy feature... but: (I know, free pie...)
Only a suggestion:
Is it posible to expand the 'rip only' to 'rip & frame selection only'?
If I do batch encoding I can't select the frames before starting the batch, so I have to do it after evry movie seperatly and my batch won't finish alone.

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Is it posible to expand the 'rip only'? If I do batch encoding I can't select the frames before starting the batch, so I have to do it after evry movie seperatly and my batch won't finish alone.
Good idea and done, so it'll be in the release version.
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yes mate. Please, disable my method, or put it under a new level such like "caution: use only by your own risk. Don't ask me anything about it!". I don't want to see this forum with a bug repport storm.
This has also been done.
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I had to pipe in on Donnie Darko. Strange, but great movie. Real life brother and sister, play the brother and sister.

A quick neat note on that movie. The actor was on a talk show when he told the following story about his friends.


Warning: Don't read on if you wish to see this movie spoiler in post.
He said that at a premiere his friends where suppose to meet him afterwards. At the end of the movie after the main character dies one friend bent over to the other and in all seriousness said "I don't think he will be able to meet us now." His bud thought he really died. True story. Dumb friend. Great movie. Slow and plodding, but with so many layers of meaning.

Was produced by Drew Barrymore.

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Just finish my first movie with the new version.
Great. No problems at all. I didn't use anything special, just the unfilter. Changed only the filesize, and the max and min bitrates.
It's really great to have the option to see where to cut it. Love it.
I encoded this movie 2 times before, with the previous ver. And each time, ended up with a very big file. (never happened before). Bbmpeg would mux the first part, then I'd get an error. Something about floating point. Couldn't do it manually because the file was way too big. Both times. Second time it was a little smaller, but got the same error.
Anyway, with this version I finally have it done.
I'll do some more testing in the time to come.
Great program, great features, great work. Thank you.
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OT: Strange... If you want strange but very cultish, try Donnie Darko
Read some reviews on it at amazon.com and it looks really good will be picking that one up this week

On another note, i did frailty last night it worked without a problem and so i dont have much to report on that note looking forward to the new release
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I really like the 'use frame selection'. Its perfect for the conversion of DVB-Streams.
Thanks.
edit: Very handy feature... but: (I know, free pie...)
Only a suggestion:
Is it posible to expand the 'rip only' to 'rip & frame selection only'?
If I do batch encoding I can't select the frames before starting the batch, so I have to do it after evry movie seperatly and my batch won't finish alone.
i was just going to come on here and ask the same thing but it seems you beat me to it...thanks for implementing that too dvd2svcd, should be very useful.
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just dl b2 at work...then see this b3 post.

As we know from experience most newbies won't be changing default settings let alone advanced.
Does anyone agree to these default settings? I admit there's little difference in changing these
settings so perhaps it's a moot point and to no avail.

Is there anywhere on earth people can still purchase 74min (740MB) cds? I haven't seen any at stores/online for about a year now. Default all to 800 perhaps. Then again leave it the way it is otherwise newbies wouldn't know the versatility. I personally do 1cd,2,3,4,5,6cd in the bitrate settings. If it ain't broke don't fix it?

VCD-Settings.ini and SVCD-Settings.ini
How about DVD-Settings.ini could Fletch perhaps come up with a nice template of settings to be included perhaps? Perhaps next release then.

cce advanced settings
default should be Intra DC decision should be 8 or AUTO.
since SVCD are 2.6Mbps or less.
"Specify the bit precision of the DC coefficient of the intra-block in Intra DC precision in the video settings screen. One of 8, 9 and 10 bits can be set here.

In general the optimum settings cannot be determined since changes depend on the details of the picture and movement intensity. For pictures with intensive movement and fine bumps, a low number of bits is appropriate. For smooth pictures with little movement, a higher number of bits is appropriate. A low number of bits may be specified for use at a [blow bitrate up to 4Mbps[/b], and a high number of bits may be specified for use at a high bitrate.

When Auto is selected, the precision varies according to quantization scale.For details, refer to the guides on MPEG-2. "


Linear quantizer scale default should be unchecked
"Setting quantization scale type
There are two types of quantization scales: linear and non-linear. Linear quantization scale is a method used for MPEG-1, where the quantization scale is allocated linearly. To set the linear quantization scale, select Linear quantization scale in the video settings screen. However, the nonlinear quantization scale is recommended unless there is a special reason."

default audio bitrate 128 bump to either 192 or 224

Will be experimenting a bunch with it in a couple of hours when I get home.

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I have enjoyed very much your new beta version of d2s. However I have two comments about subtitles.

When you select several subtitles, the end time code of the last bitmap for at least one the sub files is wrong.
For instance, the last lines of two sub files for an encoded chapter using the last d2s beta are:
en200088.bmp 00:12:25,43 00:12:26,34 136 40 284 488
es100088.bmp 00:12:25,43 01:59:59,89 104 40 300 488

In the current version the subtitles with start time code smaller than four seconds are trimmed and
do not appear in the sub file because some standalone players cannot display them. Looking ahead, it
would be convenient to include them in the sub file since they do not make any harm when using Winsubmux
as subtitle muxer and in some moment might appear a program that shows subtitles on computers.

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@needle: You're right on both accounts. I will fix it now.

EDIT:
Fixed.
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Is there anywhere on earth people can still purchase 74min (740MB) cds? I haven't seen any at stores/online for about a year now. Default all to 800 perhaps. Then again leave it the way it is otherwise newbies wouldn't know the versatility.
Hmm, maybe I should just add 900 to the dropdown list and let that be.

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VCD-Settings.ini and SVCD-Settings.ini
How about DVD-Settings.ini could Fletch perhaps come up with a nice template of settings to be included perhaps? Perhaps next release then.
I'll see what I can do. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the most DVD author programs multiplex and cut in appropiated places?

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cce advanced settings
default should be Intra DC decision should be 8 or AUTO.
since SVCD are 2.6Mbps or less.
"Specify the bit precision of the DC coefficient of the intra-block in Intra DC precision in the video settings screen. One of 8, 9 and 10 bits can be set here.
You're probably right albeit I can't see any difference in then video (so no harm done )

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Linear quantizer scale default should be unchecked
"Setting quantization scale type
There are two types of quantization scales: linear and non-linear. Linear quantization scale is a method used for MPEG-1, where the quantization scale is allocated linearly. To set the linear quantization scale, select Linear quantization scale in the video settings screen. However, the nonlinear quantization scale is recommended unless there is a special reason."
I don't know what Custom Technology deems as special reasons, I do know though that I like the default setting better, so that'll stay as is.

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default audio bitrate 128 bump to either 192 or 224
The new default is 192
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Hmm, maybe I should just add 900 to the dropdown list and let that be.
yea but that'd help people know the option existed for 90min but the way I see it is you either do 740, 800, or 900 and not mix match cd sizes but anywayz no biggie.
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I'll see what I can do. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the most DVD author programs multiplex and cut in appropiated places?
yea but fletch seems to have gotten it good. 4600 I believe in the bitrate tab, etc. Most will obviously just try ifoedit but if the main movie isn't under 4.7GB or whatever then resort to reencoding it via dvd2svcd or rempeg2 I suppose.

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Are you triple sure? (if so I'm an idiot) I've installed b1, b2, b3 and each time wiped out completely the whole dir and dvd2svcd.ini ...each time it has 128 audio and audio downsample checked.

oh yea...-shutdown and -exit work perfect now for rip only...also the dvd authentication problems seem to have vanished.

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