AssFilterMod - DirectShow subtitle renderer (v0.4) - Page 3

Blitzker · 10th July 2016, 23:14

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Originally Posted by Volfield

Visual Studio 2015 redists do the trick. Thanks for help. You should add this info to first post

Good, i'm happy that was something easy to fix! The info was in the readme on github but i forgot to add it on the first page.

Magik Mark · 13th July 2016, 06:55

I set the font to be franklin Gothic size 40. It still keep on displaying MS Sanserif. Is this possible to correct?

SecurityBunny · 16th July 2016, 11:04

Interesting project! Hopefully it'll surpass XySubFilter in performance and features in due time and continue to have active development.

Just out of curiosity, why were you searching for an alternative to XySubFilter?

Blitzker · 16th July 2016, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Magik Mark

I set the font to be franklin Gothic size 40. It still keep on displaying MS Sanserif. Is this possible to correct?

I tested it on both Windows 7 and 8.1 and it works fine for me. Is it the only font you have problems with?

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Originally Posted by SecurityBunny

Interesting project! Hopefully it'll surpass XySubFilter in performance and features in due time and continue to have active development.

Just out of curiosity, why were you searching for an alternative to XySubFilter?

I just wanted a directshow filter based on the library libass since its still actively developed and an easy project to work on.

cyberscott · 17th July 2016, 23:30

I'm glad that you started this project!

I stopped using XySubfilter a few years ago when I started upscaling my videos to 4K. It was buggy and very resource intensive at 2560x1440 and even worse at 4k rendering. (I upscale to 4k with madvr, mpc-hc and lav)

Even the built in subtitle renders in MPC-HC and BE could not do 4K subs with out errors, crashes, etc.

AssFilterMod is able to render 4k subs without crashing the video players that I use with my test videos. I do run into some slow downs if there is a lot of animated subs being displayed at the same time or larger, animated fonts being displayed. Not the render's fault, of course as a lot of resources are being used at 4k.

I like consistency in my playback so I usually use 2560x1440 for the subs on my 4K up-scales. There is not a huge difference in quality, IMHO, between 4k and 2560x1440 rendered subs and it plays some of the more aggressive subtitles without losing frames. Plus, compared to internal sub renders at the same 2560 resolution, AssFilterMod looks better and doesn't use much more rendering power.

At least now, I have the option to use 4k sub rendering if I so choose.

I look forward to your continued development of this project!

Magik Mark · 17th July 2016, 23:46

Blitzker,

When setting font, does it have to be within the filter or player? I'm using mpc be and dsplayer. The font being used differ from time to time. I was thinking maybe there is something in the srt file it self. Im using windows 10 pro x64

amayra · 20th July 2016, 11:23

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Originally Posted by Magik Mark

Blitzker,

When setting font, does it have to be within the filter or player? I'm using mpc be and dsplayer. The font being used differ from time to time. I was thinking maybe there is something in the srt file it self. Im using windows 10 pro x64

usually you set font in filter But in your case this depends you renderer priority (merit)

Magik Mark · 20th July 2016, 12:33

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Originally Posted by amayra

usually you set font in filter But in your case this depends you renderer priority (merit)

How do I change this in the renderer? I use lav filter and madvr

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amayra · 20th July 2016, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Magik Mark

How do I change this in the renderer? I use lav filter and madvr

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this for MPC-Like
1 - Go to "External Filters", press "Add Filters" and add all of: DirectVobSub, AssFilterMod and XySubFilter
2 - From the right side, change the preference of each of those filters to "Block" except AssFilterMod
3 - Set the preference of AssFilterMod to "Prefer"
i hope this will help you

Virtual_ManPL · 17th August 2016, 13:35

Thank you very much for the AssFilterMod !

I did some quality comparison for subtitle renderers.
For this I used file "[FTV-subs] Touhou - Bad Apple!! PV [960x720] v2.mkv" with "simple karaoke" (first track) subtitles.

fullscreen mode in 1680x1050 resolution
- AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [harfbuzz]
http://i.imgur.com/j5GAnpl.png
- AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [885515f]
http://i.imgur.com/A4g0r3h.png
- XySubFilter 3.1.0.746 BETA3
http://i.imgur.com/EdidGLE.png
- MPC-HC 1.7.10.252
http://i.imgur.com/PeLFVAp.png
- xy-VSFilter 3.0.0.306
http://i.imgur.com/9PQYnJ8.png

windowed mode in enabled "Auto-zoom:" with set "Auto Fit" and "Auto fit factor:" set to "75%" in MPC-HC:
- AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [harfbuzz]
http://i.imgur.com/PXytcCs.png
- AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [885515f]
http://i.imgur.com/QEopXk9.png
- XySubFilter 3.1.0.746 BETA3
http://i.imgur.com/03RDKlg.png
- MPC-HC 1.7.10.252
http://i.imgur.com/ZqIAFiZ.png
- xy-VSFilter 3.0.0.306
http://i.imgur.com/Aqkl0mY.png

My opinions and observations:
- xy-VSFilter isn't usable in this days, because of awful and terrible subtitle rendering quality
- XySubFilter produces a little more sharper subtitles than MPC-HC
- AssFilterMod produces sharpest subtitles, compared to XySubFilter, MPC-HC and xy-VSFilter
- AssFilterMod [harfbuzz] produces a little more sharper subtitles than AssFilterMod

Vertical subtitles are smaller in AssFilterMod (at least with this file), compared to XySubFilter, MPC-HC and xy-VSFilter. Is it a bug?

ryrynz · 17th August 2016, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Virtual_ManPL

My opinions and observations:
- AssFilterMod [harfbuzz] produces a little more sharper subtitles than AssFilterMod

This sharpness you're noticing looks to be the result of the text being slightly closer together in some areas, otherwise it's identical, is that change intended?

What changed exactly with those builds I see nothing mentioned in the GIT.

Siso · 22nd August 2016, 19:40

I was trying to get assfiltermod to work, but no success at all, tried with mcp-be and potplayer, no luck. Any help will be appreciated.

ryrynz · 23rd August 2016, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Siso

I was trying to get assfiltermod to work, but no success at all, tried with mcp-be and potplayer, no luck. Any help will be appreciated.

I couldn't get it working with BE, it's not supported anyway. I know it works in HC though.

Siso · 23rd August 2016, 09:14

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Originally Posted by ryrynz

I couldn't get it working with BE, it's not supported anyway. I know it works in HC though.

Thank you, will try it.

amayra · 23rd August 2016, 23:24

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Originally Posted by ryrynz

I couldn't get it working with BE, it's not supported anyway. I know it works in HC though.

is work fine in my MPC-BE
edit: sorry is moded Build

Siso · 24th August 2016, 13:41

It looks like it work only with embedded subtitles, not with external srt files...

ryrynz · 24th August 2016, 23:02

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Originally Posted by Siso

It looks like it work only with embedded subtitles, not with external srt files...

Yeah that's why MPC-BE hasn't added support for it yet. Most users are still better off with xy/vssubfilter for now.

Blitzker · 2nd September 2016, 04:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtual_ManPL

Thank you very much for the AssFilterMod !

I did some quality comparison for subtitle renderers.

My opinions and observations:
- xy-VSFilter isn't usable in this days, because of awful and terrible subtitle rendering quality
- XySubFilter produces a little more sharper subtitles than MPC-HC
- AssFilterMod produces sharpest subtitles, compared to XySubFilter, MPC-HC and xy-VSFilter
- AssFilterMod [harfbuzz] produces a little more sharper subtitles than AssFilterMod

Vertical subtitles are smaller in AssFilterMod (at least with this file), compared to XySubFilter, MPC-HC and xy-VSFilter. Is it a bug?

Thanks for testing! Indeed the vertical subtitles are smaller compared to XySubFilter. This is one of many differences between XySubFilter and libass (be it features or bugs

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

This sharpness you're noticing looks to be the result of the text being slightly closer together in some areas, otherwise it's identical, is that change intended?

What changed exactly with those builds I see nothing mentioned in the GIT.

The harfbuzz builds are to test another way to compile libass with a new text shaper (harfbuzz instead of freetype). Since harfbuzz is still actively developed, i may switch to this if there is no glitches in the display of the subs.

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Originally Posted by Siso

It looks like it work only with embedded subtitles, not with external srt files...

Yes, it only work with embedded subtitles for now. I'll start to look into external subtitles when i get more time.

huhn · 2nd September 2016, 17:27

i'm running the "harfbuzz" build for some time now and i haven't seen something that was definitely broken.

Blitzker · 3rd September 2016, 01:06

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Originally Posted by huhn

i'm running the "harfbuzz" build for some time now and i haven't seen something that was definitely broken.

Same here, not a glitchy sub yet with the harfbuzz builds.

I've made a new build based on harfbuzz with a not yet released version of libass. This fixes a problem with the drawing of outlines with some fonts.

harfbuzz: http://imgur.com/20wSgYv
harfbuzz_x1: http://imgur.com/iQx9lvV

Works good for me but it needs more testing.

13th July 2016, 06:55	#42 \| Link
Magik Mark Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 666	I set the font to be franklin Gothic size 40. It still keep on displaying MS Sanserif. Is this possible to correct? __________________ Asus ProArt Z790 - 13th Gen Intel i9 - RTX 3080 - DDR5 64GB Predator - LG OLED C9 - Yamaha A3030 - Windows 11 x64 - PotPlayerr - Lav - MadVR

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Magik Mark Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 666	Blitzker, When setting font, does it have to be within the filter or player? I'm using mpc be and dsplayer. The font being used differ from time to time. I was thinking maybe there is something in the srt file it self. Im using windows 10 pro x64 __________________ Asus ProArt Z790 - 13th Gen Intel i9 - RTX 3080 - DDR5 64GB Predator - LG OLED C9 - Yamaha A3030 - Windows 11 x64 - PotPlayerr - Lav - MadVR

16th July 2016, 11:04	#43 \| Link
SecurityBunny Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 76	Interesting project! Hopefully it'll surpass XySubFilter in performance and features in due time and continue to have active development. Just out of curiosity, why were you searching for an alternative to XySubFilter?

17th July 2016, 23:30	#45 \| Link
cyberscott Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 92	I'm glad that you started this project! I stopped using XySubfilter a few years ago when I started upscaling my videos to 4K. It was buggy and very resource intensive at 2560x1440 and even worse at 4k rendering. (I upscale to 4k with madvr, mpc-hc and lav) Even the built in subtitle renders in MPC-HC and BE could not do 4K subs with out errors, crashes, etc. AssFilterMod is able to render 4k subs without crashing the video players that I use with my test videos. I do run into some slow downs if there is a lot of animated subs being displayed at the same time or larger, animated fonts being displayed. Not the render's fault, of course as a lot of resources are being used at 4k. I like consistency in my playback so I usually use 2560x1440 for the subs on my 4K up-scales. There is not a huge difference in quality, IMHO, between 4k and 2560x1440 rendered subs and it plays some of the more aggressive subtitles without losing frames. Plus, compared to internal sub renders at the same 2560 resolution, AssFilterMod looks better and doesn't use much more rendering power. At least now, I have the option to use 4k sub rendering if I so choose. I look forward to your continued development of this project!

17th August 2016, 13:35	#50 \| Link
Virtual_ManPL Virtual_ManPL Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 170	Thank you very much for the AssFilterMod ! I did some quality comparison for subtitle renderers. For this I used file "[FTV-subs] Touhou - Bad Apple!! PV [960x720] v2.mkv" with "simple karaoke" (first track) subtitles. fullscreen mode in 1680x1050 resolution - AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [harfbuzz] http://i.imgur.com/j5GAnpl.png - AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [885515f] http://i.imgur.com/A4g0r3h.png - XySubFilter 3.1.0.746 BETA3 http://i.imgur.com/EdidGLE.png - MPC-HC 1.7.10.252 http://i.imgur.com/PeLFVAp.png - xy-VSFilter 3.0.0.306 http://i.imgur.com/9PQYnJ8.png windowed mode in enabled "Auto-zoom:" with set "Auto Fit" and "Auto fit factor:" set to "75%" in MPC-HC: - AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [harfbuzz] http://i.imgur.com/PXytcCs.png - AssFilterMod 0.2.1 [885515f] http://i.imgur.com/QEopXk9.png - XySubFilter 3.1.0.746 BETA3 http://i.imgur.com/03RDKlg.png - MPC-HC 1.7.10.252 http://i.imgur.com/ZqIAFiZ.png - xy-VSFilter 3.0.0.306 http://i.imgur.com/Aqkl0mY.png My opinions and observations: - xy-VSFilter isn't usable in this days, because of awful and terrible subtitle rendering quality - XySubFilter produces a little more sharper subtitles than MPC-HC - AssFilterMod produces sharpest subtitles, compared to XySubFilter, MPC-HC and xy-VSFilter - AssFilterMod [harfbuzz] produces a little more sharper subtitles than AssFilterMod Vertical subtitles are smaller in AssFilterMod (at least with this file), compared to XySubFilter, MPC-HC and xy-VSFilter. Is it a bug?

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Siso Soul Seeker Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 715	I was trying to get assfiltermod to work, but no success at all, tried with mcp-be and potplayer, no luck. Any help will be appreciated.

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Siso Soul Seeker Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 715	It looks like it work only with embedded subtitles, not with external srt files...

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,926	i'm running the "harfbuzz" build for some time now and i haven't seen something that was definitely broken.