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tp4tissues: You might want to give AMD a try if you plan to only use the internal graphics. I put a A10-6700 APU in my HTPC and I can use all the madvr settings I want(at least up to Jinc3).
I haven't done that many test on a 1080p TV since I don't own one, but I did enough test to know that I can play 24p fps 480p, 720p and 1080p content with Jinc3 for both chroma and luma with anti-ringing and smooth motion enabled without any dropped frames. I only tested 2-3 minutes of each, but I was really impressed that it could handle it.
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I have Core i5-3570K with Intel HD4000 (Ivy Bridge). I watch movies at 1080p, usually DVDs, with SoftCubic chroma and image upscaling without problem. I can even use Jinc3 for image upscaling with 24p content (probably can handle up to 30p), but I just like SoftCubic better for DVDs and other low quality sources.
When it comes to 1080p content at native resolution, my netbook with Celeron 1007U (low voltage Ivy Bridge) with Intel HD (lowest end yesteryear Intel iGPU) can do it without breaking a sweat, as long as I have SmoothMotion disabled, so it shouldn't be a problem. For everything else, if you're willing to sacrifice quality, DXVA2 scaling is lightning-fast with newer Intel iGPUs. EDIT: The AMD might be a better choice for HTPC, as mentioned by SamKook, but I have no experience with their newer products, hence my post is centered on Intel side. Last edited by michkrol; 8th October 2013 at 21:37. |
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Edit: Still it is nice to know the APU is fast enough to do Jinc3 chroma to 1080p and then downscale to 720p. Last edited by Asmodian; 9th October 2013 at 09:14. |
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I just noticed that I didn't have anti-ringing enabled though contrary to what I though, but I'm going back there this weekend and I'll give it another try. It also handle downscaling with catmull-rom with anti-ringing and linear light enabled for 1080p stuff on my 720p-ish TV if there was any doubt.
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I have a feeling that this questions comes up from time to time but I would like to know the right 'video chain' to use for my purpose. What I do is play Blu-Ray material with MPC-BE. I use madVR as renderer and LAV video filter. My display device is a Sony VPL-VW1000ES.
So I think there are 3 things I need to config: 1. madVR: 16-235 or 0-255 2. LAV: TV(16-235) or PC(0-255) or Untouched (as input) 3. Projector HDMI range: AUTO or LIMITED or FULL 4. Intel HD graphics output range FULL or LIMITED Can you guys point me in the right direction? Last edited by THX-UltraII; 9th October 2013 at 16:41. |
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Ah yes I misunderstood you (your limited testing was on a different screen, of course). It does sound like a great chip for an HTPC. I was just jumping to conclusions assuming what I thought was the same oversight I had recently made. My GTX Titan goes over 90% doing 2160p@60fps to 1440p with Catmul-Rom+AR+LL image, Jinc3+AR chroma, smooth motion off; not using Jinc3+AR for the image. |
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When running a calibration session with ArgyllCMS and MadTPG, I've noticed that lower level patterns and some green patterns show some kind of blocking that actually moves around when displayed. Is this expected behavior? I can provide camera screenshots if you need them. Thanks |
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Thanks for your reply. I just heard on the AVS community that the projector I own, the Sony VPL-VW1000ES, has got issues when inputting rgb. Does my software setup (madvr+mpc-be+lav filters+intel hd2000 graphics hdmi out) feeds my projector with rgb or something else?
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There are other benefits to madVR you can get with 1080p video at 1080p native res. You already mentioned smoothmotion and deinterlacing. There is also: Full control over decoding matrix and primaries, calibration, high bitdepth processing with dithering as the last step, and fullscreen exclusive mode with multiple pre-rendered frames (which improves playback reliability). More features to come soon, like debanding, for which is a test version already is available. Quote:
Heavy indeed. Thanks, Ron. ------- Could use some more samples with light blocking. There are 2 different cases of light blocking: (1) Only a few artefact blocks spread over the frame, but with hard edges. (2) Big parts of the image covered in blocks, but the block edges are only barely visible. Could use samples for both. Thanks! |
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Morguh Madshi,
I m thinking about getting the AMD 7950. Will this card give me perfect playback with madVR? If so, am I right that I need to do: 1. set madVR to 0-255 2. set LAV filters to output 'same as input' 3. set nvidia output range to full range (does this need a registry fix or something or will it work with the most recent drivers 'out-of-the-box'?) 4. set nvidia input to 0-255 5. set my display to FULL RANGE Any other things I need to config like settings in the nvidia control panel? Also, the LAV video filter has got a lot of boxes you can check with the input formats. Which do I select there? Only RGB32 and RGB24 and leave the rest unchecked? |
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using 86.11 i'm getting green colourspace(?) being shifted by about 32 pixels vertically. Switching back to EVR the video renders correctly. Example here (I found it via google - no idea what the source is or whether it is a legal file): http://www56.zippyshare.com/v/68759153/file.html The same also happens with some of my HDTV records (one particular channel). |
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I'm wondering because I still find (for my personal HTPC use) that using a Cyberlink codec + EVR + DXVA2 with DXVA deinterlacing set to auto is what gives the best result : that is you will never ever see a comb effect (Note : this is on AMD GPU for DVB Broadcasted content) With madVR sometimes I can clearly see comb effect (mainly on things that doesn't move as sharp objects like static text on commercials). Though it is vastly superior as not having madVR handling deinterlacing and leaving it to LAV filters (for instance, I don't see major issues with tickers : they look sharp and not blurry as hell like with some other deinterlacing techniques) So I'm wondering if it's my fault : I'm the source filter, so I'm the first filter in the graph that is giving a media type, though I do not update this media type while the graph is flowing (I always thought that the video decoder should take this responsibility)
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