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Old 26th May 2013, 12:01   #18881  |  Link
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@6233638 (and any other scaling maniac :P)

I just assembled an htpc for a friend that has the most awfull collection of avi & divx ever seen.
Right now i use MN for chroma, Softcubic80 for luma.
Any better recommendation for such material.
My main goal is to hide compression artifacts.
I'm not a "scaling maniac" and this doesn't really relate to madVR, but try some of the "sharpen complex, deband and denoise" custom pixel shaders from janwillem32's (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157634) "Video pixel shader pack". I use them myself with madVR for old TV rips and such and they do a stand-up job paired up with madVR.

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Old 26th May 2013, 14:51   #18882  |  Link
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On Windows 7 64 bit does having Aero turned on or off effect the playback quality of mVR? I mean does it effect it (better or worse) with stuttering/delayed/dropped frames etc? Reason being I have always have had aero turned off now I am wondering if I am missing out on something. Thanks...
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Old 26th May 2013, 19:37   #18883  |  Link
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OK, sounds good! and what about the old rendering path? the new one randomly hiccups for me when OTOH the old one has always worked flawlessly
Sorry, i am not familiar with that term.
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Old 26th May 2013, 23:12   #18884  |  Link
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Sorry, i am not familiar with that term.
On the other hand?
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Old 26th May 2013, 23:16   #18885  |  Link
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Previous driver should work.
Thx man for your help with drivers, i found you setting for Rendering-->Exclusive Mode and I'm going to copy those. One question the last one Flush & Wait, sleep and loop are the same?
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Old 26th May 2013, 23:55   #18886  |  Link
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i am not familiar with that term.
In order to revert to the old rendering path, you need to uncheck "present several frames in advance" in the /rendering/exclusive mode settings/ tab and it would also help to check "use managed upload textures (XP only)" in the /rendering/general settings/ tab as that latter option would smoothen windowed/FS changes IME. I've tried the new rendering path on several occasion but it would very often hiccup right after skipping when OTOH the old one has always worked perfectly for me.

you also seem to imply that CUVID hardware acceleration in LAV would be part of the issue, so how about software decoding then?

some additional feedback would be greatly appreciated please if you got time to run more tests.

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Old 27th May 2013, 00:23   #18887  |  Link
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Im kinda annoyed lol
This is a new laptop with Radeon 8730M but cant use that card for MadVR as in exclusive mode I get 5 times slower rendering then windowed mode! As its switchable graphivs only solution is to use HD4000 but with that I can only use Lanz3 and BiCubic 75 and I get around 30 - 35ms render for 720P to 1080P.
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Old 27th May 2013, 12:33   #18888  |  Link
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I am about to commit a bad thing ... But I have to do it... :

Madshi, are you close to release a new update or is there nothing to expect in the next couple of weeks ??

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Old 28th May 2013, 07:14   #18889  |  Link
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On Windows 7 64 bit does having Aero turned on or off effect the playback quality of mVR? I mean does it effect it (better or worse) with stuttering/delayed/dropped frames etc? Reason being I have always have had aero turned off now I am wondering if I am missing out on something. Thanks...
There is an option

enable windowed overlay (Windows 7 and newer)

I noticed that with this option enabled, in some particular videos (many videos) when I press the Alt+Enter to enter full screen, the picture starts flashing and I need to close the player to stop the flashes.

This is the only thing that I noticed regarding Aero that has negative effect on playback.
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Old 29th May 2013, 09:51   #18890  |  Link
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more feedback when it'll be sitting on my desk. As an additional appetizer, I can also state that it comes with 360Hz PWM flicker so motion blur shouldn't much of an issue in 60Hz
Tell us already! Or else
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Old 29th May 2013, 12:36   #18891  |  Link
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Blanked for my stupity, sry.

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Old 29th May 2013, 12:46   #18892  |  Link
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I believe that is version 9 vs the current version 86.1...
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Old 29th May 2013, 12:54   #18893  |  Link
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What do you mean. The install.bat only registeres one single file either 0.86.1 or 0.9: madVR.ax
So hitting uninstall.bat, extracting 0.9 over the 0.86.1, then hit install.bat is no "Vs".

PS: The bad thing that 0.9 doesn't work properly for me. The MadVR icon does no more appear in systray plus any video i try to watch via registered output module madVR is at extreme low framerate (1 frame every 6-7 seconds!!!). Made sure i un-/installed correctly with admin-rights and rebooted.

Switching back to 0.86.1 instantly works tough.

SO there's a reason this update is not officially announced.

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Old 29th May 2013, 13:10   #18894  |  Link
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Lol im stupid, now i know what you mean.
It is 0.9 (0.09) not v0.90. OMG, ignore me
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Old 29th May 2013, 14:16   #18895  |  Link
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You are not the first user who got caught by this trap; the same issue has been discussed a few times in the german doom9/Gleitz board too...
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Old 29th May 2013, 14:45   #18896  |  Link
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Lol im stupid, now i know what you mean.
It is 0.9 (0.09) not v0.90. OMG, ignore me
It's not 0.09 either. Version numbers are not arithmetic decimal numbers. And that can make it confusing if you don't understand the versioning scheme being used.

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There's no reason to not use arithmetic decimal numbers though. Makes things simpler to use fixed version numbering in terms of how many digits there are.
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Old 29th May 2013, 15:01   #18898  |  Link
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There's no reason to not use arithmetic decimal numbers though. Makes things simpler to use fixed version numbering in terms of how many digits there are.
Sure there is. Versions numbers are not for doing arithmetic with. They are simply a way to show that you have made major/minor version changes. So simply going from counting from 1 to whatever is much better than having to format all your numbers with multiple padded out zeros just so it looks like a decimal number. Say for example I know I will possibly have 100 revisions between an alpha release and my 1.0. Why should I go 0.001, 0.002, 0.003, 0.004, 0.005, 0.006, 0.007, 0.008, 0.009, 0.010 instead of simply 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 0.10, etc. The former way just seems silly to me since it's simply an incremented number showing your version as major.minor. It is not a decimal to do arithmetic with.
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Old 29th May 2013, 15:20   #18899  |  Link
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Tell us already! Or else
Well I received it yesterday, and I'm sending it back today....talk about déjà vu

Here are three reviews: 1 2 3

The PWM instantly hurt my eyes and gave me headaches, this youtube video shows exactly how this *** flat-screen makes me feel

I also tried to force 100% brightness(in order to defeat PWM) and counterbalance from the PC (as this guy did) but that didn't help at all.

I guess PC monitors makers have a lot to learn from those who make TV's huh....I previously tried a CCFL TV from Hitachi that made me see bright green RBE's but nothing more, even this cheapo TN TV didn't hurt my eyes at all: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00933LX5G

BenQ supposedly have a flicker-free monitor in the works, but I don't think I'll try it if it's like the BL2410PT at max brightness huh(and the contrast spec falls back from 5K:1 to 3K:1): http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/gw2760hs/

In order to remain OT, I would say that it's capped to 1080p@66.66Hz(due to the 165MHz pixel clock limitation of SL DVI, didn't have any DL DVI cable around) and FRC in mVR looked OK'ish, definitely not as smooth as 90Hz on a CRT though IMHO.

Apart from this, gamut and contrast were great, black was also the best I've seen on a LCD screen(even though it "glowed" and wasn't as solid as a CRT but it was really black!), the antiglare layer was a bit annoying due to its pearly appearance(the GW2760HS supposedly comes with a semi-glossy finish), the front panel buttons barely worked(thanks to a craptastic motion detection) and the pivot of the panel was a real pleasure to use. There was also a small round patch in the right bottom corner that looked slightly lighter on a light gray background, humm...I think the blue panel is FUBAR.

And anyway, all those PC monitors work internally in 8bit(and more often than not 6bit, as proven by their poor REC709 gamut coverage), that's really the stone age when all serious TV's work in 12bit and videoprojectors have been working in at least 10bit for over a decade.....oh well, someday I'll find a flat screen that'll make me happy, I'm a believer

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Old 29th May 2013, 16:31   #18900  |  Link
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Sure there is. Versions numbers are not for doing arithmetic with. They are simply a way to show that you have made major/minor version changes. So simply going from counting from 1 to whatever is much better than having to format all your numbers with multiple padded out zeros just so it looks like a decimal number. Say for example I know I will possibly have 100 revisions between an alpha release and my 1.0. Why should I go 0.001, 0.002, 0.003, 0.004, 0.005, 0.006, 0.007, 0.008, 0.009, 0.010 instead of simply 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 0.10, etc. The former way just seems silly to me since it's simply an incremented number showing your version as major.minor. It is not a decimal to do arithmetic with.
You can do 100 revisions with 1.01, 1.02, etc. How is that unreasonable? The other option of course is to use more than one decimal point; it's more obvious that 1.1.0 is larger than 1.0.2 than 1.10 being larger than 1.2.
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