Temporal Smoother Questions

azurenights · 2nd March 2002, 15:12

Hi I just posted up this thread because I have a few questions about the temporal smoother filter for avisynth. My first question is that whether it would be a good idea to use this filter when encoding a movie with multiple passes in CCE??? I have heard that it has produced great results in a one pass VBR with a low Q factor such as 5. So what are the results like in multipass VBR????

My Second question isn't really a question but more of a request. Could someone post up the name of the movie and what arguments they have put in the temporal smoother filter that has given them the best results. You could even put in a genre such as

"I used TemporalSmoother(3,5) for dark, low light movies."

Thanks heaps for any replys!!!!

TactX · 2nd March 2002, 15:41

Well, it is hard to give you good settings for a genre since the settings mostly depend on how noisy your source is.

So it would be the best to play around with the settings since any movie/source will need different settings.

I personally prefer SpatialSoften since TemporalSoften has a bug (it doesn't work for me with mpeg2source) and because TS will just work in still/low-motion areas where SpatialSoften does not really care if there is motion or not. But SpatiaSoften is f...... slow !

You could try a combination of Temporal- and SpatialSoften but make sure you do TemporalSoften before SpatialSoften. This should work good since SpatialSoften will clean the parts that TemporalSoften was not able to clean.

movmasty · 11th March 2002, 06:57

parametres for tempsmooth r 3, being the 1st the pixel radium,es.(1,3,5).

3,5 is very low and i think not effective,
use 1,5,8 for light filter,1,7,11 for medium, 1,10,16 like strong
and 2,12,20 like very strong for heavy "snow"(but with artifacts).

you cant use temp together with frame decimation inside asynth.

the tempsmooth of vdub has some option more.

Divine · 11th March 2002, 13:01

Movmasty ,those values you gave don't work in avisynth for TemporalSmoother()

azurenights · 11th March 2002, 14:30

movmasty are you talking about temporalsmoother or temporal soften????

I thought temporalsmoother only had two arguments not three

thanks

movmasty · 12th March 2002, 07:17

about temporal soften sorry.

is the temp smoother your talking about different from the vdub one?

and if yes, where can i find it?

2nd March 2002, 15:12	#1 \| Link
azurenights Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 76	Temporal Smoother Questions Hi I just posted up this thread because I have a few questions about the temporal smoother filter for avisynth. My first question is that whether it would be a good idea to use this filter when encoding a movie with multiple passes in CCE??? I have heard that it has produced great results in a one pass VBR with a low Q factor such as 5. So what are the results like in multipass VBR???? My Second question isn't really a question but more of a request. Could someone post up the name of the movie and what arguments they have put in the temporal smoother filter that has given them the best results. You could even put in a genre such as "I used TemporalSmoother(3,5) for dark, low light movies." Thanks heaps for any replys!!!!

2nd March 2002, 15:41	#2 \| Link
TactX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: /home/tactx/ Posts: 367	Well, it is hard to give you good settings for a genre since the settings mostly depend on how noisy your source is. So it would be the best to play around with the settings since any movie/source will need different settings. I personally prefer SpatialSoften since TemporalSoften has a bug (it doesn't work for me with mpeg2source) and because TS will just work in still/low-motion areas where SpatialSoften does not really care if there is motion or not. But SpatiaSoften is f...... slow ! You could try a combination of Temporal- and SpatialSoften but make sure you do TemporalSoften before SpatialSoften. This should work good since SpatialSoften will clean the parts that TemporalSoften was not able to clean. __________________ Quoted from an FAQ at the linux-wlan project: "If a given distribution chooses to do something funky, we rely on users of that distribution to contribute patches to deal with their funkiness."

11th March 2002, 06:57	#3 \| Link
movmasty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 970	parametres for tempsmooth r 3, being the 1st the pixel radium,es.(1,3,5). 3,5 is very low and i think not effective, use 1,5,8 for light filter,1,7,11 for medium, 1,10,16 like strong and 2,12,20 like very strong for heavy "snow"(but with artifacts). you cant use temp together with frame decimation inside asynth. the tempsmooth of vdub has some option more.

11th March 2002, 13:01	#4 \| Link
Divine Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 33	Movmasty ,those values you gave don't work in avisynth for TemporalSmoother()

11th March 2002, 14:30	#5 \| Link
azurenights Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 76	movmasty are you talking about temporalsmoother or temporal soften???? I thought temporalsmoother only had two arguments not three thanks

12th March 2002, 07:17	#6 \| Link
movmasty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 970	about temporal soften sorry. is the temp smoother your talking about different from the vdub one? and if yes, where can i find it?