DivX Pro 5.2, DivX 5.2, Dr DivX 1.0.5, and DivX Player 2.5.4 released! - Page 3

Boulder · 16th July 2004, 13:40

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Originally posted by DigitAl56K
Turn off "Support Generic MPEG4" in the DivX Decoder configuration tool (accessable via the Start menu or via your media player during playback).

Doesn't work for me, using the standard DivX v5.2. It's unchecked and still the decoder won't give up and let ffdshow do the DivX material decoding.

LostMP4 · 16th July 2004, 14:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Boulder
Doesn't work for me, using the standard DivX v5.2. It's unchecked and still the decoder won't give up and let ffdshow do the DivX material decoding.

I guess that option refers only to MPEG-4 not DivX encoded videos (3ivx, Xvid, Nero Digital...)

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 14:05

Im asking myself why DivX network opted for MPEG matrix ONLY.
Since the code is able to work with Quantization Matrices (H.263 is not a quantization matrix) why the heck is there only the MPEG matrix?
Ok, 5.2 is a nice codec but a better CQM support as in XVID is needed.

Boulder · 16th July 2004, 14:09

Quote:

Originally posted by LostMP4
I guess that option refers only to MPEG-4 not DivX encoded videos (3ivx, Xvid, Nero Digital...)

Well I sure hope there is some easy way (probably some registry hack) to prevent the decoder from decoding all DivX content..I like ffdshow a lot better due to all the postprocessing options.

If there isn't a simple way, I'll have to ask the question "Why?" .

communist · 16th July 2004, 14:13

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Im asking myself why DivX network opted for MPEG matrix ONLY.
Since the code is able to work with Quantization Matrices (H.263 is not a quantization matrix) why the heck is there only the MPEG matrix?
Ok, 5.2 is a nice codec but a better CQM support as in XVID is needed.

They're saving that for the next upgrade?

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 14:15

Uhm... that's not a good reason coz it needs less than 5 minutes of GUI reworking and less than 2 minutes of coding...

DPR · 16th July 2004, 14:16

What happened to the good old motion vector file ? It seems that the feature is again unavailable. Can't find any information about the feature being removed or deactivated on the offical DivX page.

BTW: some german translations are horrible ! I don't recommend using the german version ... some descriptions are confusing and only lead to misunderstandings.

I'm momentarily testing the new version and it seems that it's great !

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 14:18

A small comparison between Xvid 1.0.1, DivX Pro 5.2 and VP6.2 is available here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...r=3#post524549
Not very detailed but screenshots talks an universal language...

DigitAl56K · 16th July 2004, 14:26

Quote:

Originally posted by CruNcher
On wich marketing School you graduated DigitAl56K ?

Banner Ads == artwork ???

i only say "BannerAdXML"

couldn't you guys be more honourable and tell the people (maybe your customers) the truth instead of trying to carry them behind the light ?

Hey CruNcher

We may occasionally show a "banner" there for things like our forums, DivX Certified devices, maybe even other forums like Doom9, but we're going to have plenty of cool artwork, too. In fact, we currently have 4 pieces of artwork already done and ready to go, and none of them are actually "banners". We have a policy against third-party advertising in our products - you won't see any banners for "Product XYZ".

We actually added an option to the codec settings to turn the artwork rotation off - just uncheck it and you'll never see anything but the regular product artwork.

Hope that helps!

DigitAl56K · 16th July 2004, 14:28

Hi all, I need to leave for the office here - I'll jump right back in and answer some more posts in a little while

nicco · 16th July 2004, 14:41

Quote:

The 5.2 decoder corrects a small issue that can cause blocks to be displayed along high-contrast edges in the picture, mainly affecting anime content. Watch Pokémon as it was meant to be viewed once again!

Great! I have this problem with 5.1.1 and it's not a small isuue, it's terrible! Does 5.2 correct this problem in 5.1.1-encoded-video playback too?
I'll try 5.2 as soon as I can..

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 15:25

It should.

bond · 16th July 2004, 15:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Im asking myself why DivX network opted for MPEG matrix ONLY.
Since the code is able to work with Quantization Matrices (H.263 is not a quantization matrix) why the heck is there only the MPEG matrix?
Ok, 5.2 is a nice codec but a better CQM support as in XVID is needed.

there is a difference between mpeg and custom quants!
afaik with custom quants the used matrix is stored in the stream, but with mpeg its only signaled to decoder that it uses the default mpeg matrix

also i assume that dxn didnt hesitated to add custom quants as some "divx players" have problems with some custom matrices
i assume thats also the reason why they didnt use packed bitstream for there multiple b-frames mode (some players have problems with packed bitstream on more than 1 b-vops too)

Quote:

Originally posted by LostMP4
I guess that option refers only to MPEG-4 not DivX encoded videos (3ivx, Xvid, Nero Digital...)

just to make sure that everyone knows it: divx5 is mpeg-4 compliant, just as 3ivx, xvid, nd, etc... too

Quote:

Originally posted by CruNcher
Banner Ads == artwork ???
i only say "BannerAdXML"

DigitAl56K · 16th July 2004, 16:18

Lol, hey folks. A little background for you:

Product manager (me): "Please build us a system for switching out the artwork in the codec gui, and make it clickable so it can go to web pages. Kind of like a banner ad system..."

Engineer: "OK!"

A few months later, we got exactly what we asked for: A system for switching out the artwork in the codec gui, kind of like a banner ad system. In fact, a little too like a banner ad system, a.k.a. the XML file name

Unfortunately, I only realised this after CruNcher pointed it out, DOH!!

This is my first time as a product manager, I need a little bit of a break here folks

lol

Rest assured there will be no third-party advertising in the codec, and if you're still unsure, you can turn off ALL artwork rotation in the codec settings, but we do plan to have some cool stuff here

Millenod · 16th July 2004, 16:35

@DigitAl56K

Another bug with Dr-Divx (please refer to the wishes\list above) :
I start the software for the second time, and the button "15 day trial extension" is grayed

Very nice for a second test...

Well, I can't tell you exactly the bug :
- choose the crop size.
- modify settings
=> my personal crop settings are lost

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 16:42

Quote:

Originally posted by bond
there is a difference between mpeg and custom quants!
afaik with custom quants the used matrix is stored in the stream, but with mpeg its only signaled to decoder that it uses the default mpeg matrix

Yes, i know the difference... what i'm trying to say is if the encoder part can "use" the mpeg matrix, could "use" any other matrix too...
Adding the ability to distinguish the MPEG matrix from a custom matrix and eventually add it to the stream is 5 mins of coding...

Quote:

Originally posted by bond
also i assume that dxn didnt hesitated to add custom quants as some "divx players" have problems with some custom matrices
i assume thats also the reason why they didnt use packed bitstream for there multiple b-frames mode (some players have problems with packed bitstream on more than 1 b-vops too)

Thats not a problem coz they could have added some other and better matrices (choosen by their engineers to ensure standalones compatibility) to the dropdown list.
However a better compromise can be reached by enabling MPEG and H.263 if any of the profiles are selected and enabling custom matrices if no profiles are selected...
For what concerns the multiple B-Frames i would have put the same restrictions as above... enable them only if no profile is selected.
PB enabled with profiles, PB disabled whithout profiles...

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 16:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Millenod
@DigitAl56K

Another bug with Dr-Divx (please refer to the wishes\list above) :
I start the software for the second time, and the button "15 day trial extension" is grayed
Very nice for a second test...

Well, I can't tell you exactly the bug :
- choose the crop size.
- modify settings
=> my personal crop settings are lost

Yes there are some bugs in the GUI...
If you play with settings (resize on/off, remove black bars on/off) you could end with unpredictable results

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 16:46

@exiztone: disable post processing in the DivX decoder settings.

Sharktooth · 16th July 2004, 16:58

Dunno, but i keep it always disabled because i dont need it for my encodings and it hurts the CPU usage and sometimes (depends on the CPU load) the playback.

RadicalEd · 16th July 2004, 17:16

My "Registration license for EKG Application is not valid."

Running the DivX 5.2 Pro trial version.
:/

16th July 2004, 14:05	#43 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Im asking myself why DivX network opted for MPEG matrix ONLY. Since the code is able to work with Quantization Matrices (H.263 is not a quantization matrix) why the heck is there only the MPEG matrix? Ok, 5.2 is a nice codec but a better CQM support as in XVID is needed. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Uhm... that's not a good reason coz it needs less than 5 minutes of GUI reworking and less than 2 minutes of coding... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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DPR Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9	What happened to the good old motion vector file ? It seems that the feature is again unavailable. Can't find any information about the feature being removed or deactivated on the offical DivX page. BTW: some german translations are horrible ! I don't recommend using the german version ... some descriptions are confusing and only lead to misunderstandings. I'm momentarily testing the new version and it seems that it's great ! __________________ Regards, DPR

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	A small comparison between Xvid 1.0.1, DivX Pro 5.2 and VP6.2 is available here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...r=3#post524549 Not very detailed but screenshots talks an universal language... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 16th July 2004 at 14:21.

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DigitAl56K Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 936	Hi all, I need to leave for the office here - I'll jump right back in and answer some more posts in a little while __________________ DivX Plus Web Player 2.0 (MKV & AVI) (Embed generator) DivX H.264 Decoder with DXVA support Developer portal

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	It should. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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DigitAl56K Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 936	Lol, hey folks. A little background for you: Product manager (me): "Please build us a system for switching out the artwork in the codec gui, and make it clickable so it can go to web pages. Kind of like a banner ad system..." Engineer: "OK!" A few months later, we got exactly what we asked for: A system for switching out the artwork in the codec gui, kind of like a banner ad system. In fact, a little too like a banner ad system, a.k.a. the XML file name Unfortunately, I only realised this after CruNcher pointed it out, DOH!! This is my first time as a product manager, I need a little bit of a break here folks lol Rest assured there will be no third-party advertising in the codec, and if you're still unsure, you can turn off ALL artwork rotation in the codec settings, but we do plan to have some cool stuff here __________________ DivX Plus Web Player 2.0 (MKV & AVI) (Embed generator) DivX H.264 Decoder with DXVA support Developer portal Last edited by DigitAl56K; 16th July 2004 at 16:21.

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Millenod Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 50	@DigitAl56K Another bug with Dr-Divx (please refer to the wishes\list above) : I start the software for the second time, and the button "15 day trial extension" is grayed Very nice for a second test... Well, I can't tell you exactly the bug : - choose the crop size. - modify settings => my personal crop settings are lost __________________ http://www.allfirmwares.com http://www.frogaspi.org

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	@exiztone: disable post processing in the DivX decoder settings. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Dunno, but i keep it always disabled because i dont need it for my encodings and it hurts the CPU usage and sometimes (depends on the CPU load) the playback. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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RadicalEd Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 987	My "Registration license for EKG Application is not valid." Running the DivX 5.2 Pro trial version. :/

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