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13th May 2009, 17:44 | #221 | Link | |
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Sorry that you seem so insulted you found it necessary to blurt out "STFU" just because I don't agree with your whiny argument on how ffdshow is so awesome and media foundation and WMP are screwing it over. Next time I'll remember to just fall in line with random microsoft outrage. |
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Anyone actually working on software produdcts this impacts and who don't have any direct contacts with Microsoft, feel free to PM me and I'll see if I can track down an appropriate contact for whatever issue you've got. |
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Also how is a BSOD nonsense. it is a perfect possibility if someone goes dicking around with system files. Who knows at this point what consequences could follow, hell even if it results in WMP crashing it's still an unintended result. So please don't tell me to STFU based on your thought that a BSOD might be absolutely absurd when it is still a possibility. |
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How ironic/funny I got a BSOD when messing with the registry for WMP/DS on Win7 today. Yes, I did submit a crash report on it ;-)
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Deleting + cleaning from registry is actually more,- or less the same thing as an uninstall-programm would do; Only you do it "by hand". But originally it was a question if this was even possible, not a question about the possible things that you think might happen as a consequence. Last edited by G_M_C; 14th May 2009 at 07:36. |
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You get less clutter on you HDD's, and more choice. Dont mind both at all. Might be useful for sysops too; Why install AVC codecs if your employees are supposed to use your own proprietary system for writing letters ? Helps you in making shure they do their task in stead of watching youtube (other than firewall measures). In other words, you get a more versatile system, with more control over the features you need/want/use; More tailored to your situation. I'm all for this. Last edited by G_M_C; 14th May 2009 at 19:45. |
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And the game is up.
Sorry, Microsoft, your decoder sucks. You can no longer claim that it benefits us to use your decoder because it is "better" when it cannot play 1080p H.264 on a Quad-core Phenom II Black Edition 3.2Ghz. And now your decoder is (blatantly illegally) hijacking playback throughout Windows 7. I suspect the rest of the world will have no choice but to actively break your decoders in order to provide useful media playback. How am I not surprised? |
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During playback, if a DirectShow decoder is registered for the same mediatype a MediaFoundation decoder is supposed to handle, pop-up a confirmation dialog upon loading the video: "WMP has detected you have untested third-party decoders installed for this media type. Do you wish to use the default WMP decoders instead? Yes(default)/No" The dialog would only appear for users that have dared to install third-party decoders. A tiny minority, if Microsoft really does deliver with a reliable and comprehensive set of MediaFoundation decoders. I believe most users will attempt to install codecs only when playback goes wrong. Don't be greedy, Microsoft: you can make your decoders the best they can be AND allow third-parties to play in the game when your stuff doesn't work.
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I think whatever's happening there is a different issue. Looks like they also figured out a way to make ffdshow work on Win7 with MPC-HD anyway. Nice to see a 3rd party app demonstrating that works. |
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Found universal solution to disable forced Microsoft H264 codec in WMP12 and WMC.
First, and this is main step, backup and delete key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MediaFoundation\Transforms\{62ce7e72-4c71-4d20-b15d-452831a87d9d} Second, change key value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred\{31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} from {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD} to preferred h264 decoder ({09571A4B-F1FE-4C60-9760-DE6D310C7C31} for CoreAVC or {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7} for ffdshow) If you need to allow any other decoders in WMP12/WMC, like ffdshow Audio decoder and AC3Filter, add decoders CLSID to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\FilterExceptions (create new keys with decoder CLSID name) and add key 'Capabilities' to needed CLSID`s in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\Instance This 'Capabilities' key must contain REG_DWORD value with name: {374ac4df-7c98-4257-b13d-36087dbee458} and value: 1 |
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If something had to be done to make MPC-HD work with FFDShow under Win7RC, that seem to dismiss the claim that the change is just to protect MS players from non-MS decoders.
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First, benwaggoner said that MPC had to be fixed. Second, I stay with the beta precisely because my friend jumped the gun and went to RC and now MPC+ffdshow is broken. We did get it to connect, but there is no picture only sound (and even that ~30sec delayed). Same exact combo (a series of latest svn builds for both) works out of the box in beta and older windows.
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