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30th July 2005, 06:35 | #1 | Link |
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What's the best WMV HD codec? And H.264?
I'm trying to play some HD videos, but I think I'm doing something wrong. I can't play "Step Into Liquid" 1080p (WMV) well; there's a lot of stutter and no sound. Even though I play T2 (WMV too) perfectly. I'm using MPC, but I've tried WMP and VLC; no sucess. VLC freezes image sometimes, but at least runs the sound.
H.264 is even worst. I simply can't play any video well, even in 'low' (480p) resolution. I've tried renaming it to ".mp4" and play in MPC, but it still desgusting; stutter all the time. I think there's a software problem, anyway. I use K-Lite Mega Codec Pack 134. And I have an Athlon XP @2.1 Ghz, 1 GB RAM (415 Mhz) and Ati 9800XT. Fast writes is enabled. Any idea to make HD videos run faster? Last edited by Delerue; 30th July 2005 at 07:08. |
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What version of ffdshow are you trying to play the h264 video with? Have you tried the Nero digital video player (im not sure if this works good or not, never tried it really). It could also simply be you dont have enough grunt to run these videos. |
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Tomorrow I'll try the most feared format: H.264. Hugs! |
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H.264 it's horrible! Blarg. We must set to "DirectX 9" (or 7) in MPC to see the motion near to real (someone knows why?). Even though, CPU died all the time, and the FPS can't reach the top. And I'm talking about the 'low' resolution. Why H.264 is so heavy? It's really better then WMVHD? I can't see any diference.
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H264 is more complex than WMV. You need a better CPU.
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Next-Gen. Cards pretend to be able to accelerate h264. (Nvidia claims already 7800GTX can do this) About HD-WMV accel.: Get the appropriate patches from Microsoft (unfortunately bundled with DRM-updates) and CPU% will go back to 40-50 % for "Step into liquid". Unfortunately this works only in Windows Media Player (not MPC etc.) Works with Ati Cards 9500 and above and Nvidia Geforce6 Cards (except NV40). Edit: "Step Into Liquid" 1080p is one of the "heaviest" Examples of HD-WMV, if this runs smooth, most should. Interestingly, other 1080p Clips that look even complexer often use far less CPU%... Last edited by Stebs; 6th August 2005 at 16:54. |
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On my ATI, I have "WMV acceletation" enabled and I can't playback the "Step into liquid" clip. Extreme lagyness on my 3000+ w/ ATI AIW 9800 Pro 128MB. Sucks...
[edit] First test was in WRM9, with PS 2.0 bicubic resize. In overlay mode, I only have some lags from time to time, but CPU is at 100%.
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Was exactly the same here (100% CPU and sometimes laggy/ Sound a bit unsync) with XP3200+ and Nvidia Geforce3/6600GT/6800GT Ati 9500pro/9800Pro. What you need is this: Update to enable DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) of Windows Media Video content in Windows Media Player 10 With the patch its down to 40-50 % and absolutely smooth. (tested with 6600GT -my new 6800GT (aka NV40) can't accelerate due to Video-Processor-Bug ) Remember though that it only works with Windows Media Player 10 and you must install hotfix 891122 (DRM Update) for it to work! -See MORE INFORMATION of Microsoft Page for detail. I think another way of Microsoft to force its DRM upon us |
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BTW, another example that this Guy from Inquirer doesn't have a clue:
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Works since Day1 that the needed Microsoft Patch is out, support is already in (old) official Nvidia 72.77 (?or similar) Driver, apparently works with newest Ati Drivers too... |
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BTW, I still can't understand why H.264 is so heavy. I can't see any difference when compare to WMVHD. []s |
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And H264 is better than WMV9/VC1.
wmv9 -> mpeg4 ASP (like Xvid) -> h264 Thats all IMHO of course, but I'm not alone with this opinion If you dont see any difference, use another (better) method for displaying (HDTV Beamer etc.) or reduce the bitrate while encoding to see the difference... Nevertheless they are all better than Mpeg2 of course (naturally for the same given bitrate) BTW: Quote:
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Examples of it are the Nero Digital AVC Codec and the Open Source x.264 Codec. BTW. h.264/Mpeg4 Part10/AVC (everything the same) is one of the 3 official accepted Codecs for HD-DVD and Blueray. Other two: old Mpeg2 and VC1 (principally=wmv9) |
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