BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Ch3vr0n]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Any editing you've done is lost between times that you exit and reenter BD-RB... so the size doesn't match.

Thats just it, i havent. After the abort the only thing i did was launch BDRB and hit backup again. So it should have resumed. I noticed that BDRB had reselected streams to be blanked that i have previously UNSELECTED prior to starting the backup process in the first place. So it seems BDRB doesnt remember the streams blanked correctly

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n

Thats just it, i havent. After the abort the only thing i did was launch BDRB and hit backup again. So it should have resumed. I noticed that BDRB had reselected streams to be blanked that i have previously UNSELECTED prior to starting the backup process in the first place. So it seems BDRB doesnt remember the streams blanked correctly

Yep, that's pretty much exactly what I said...

In order to save those settings I'll have to put the selection list into the INF file so it will reset your changes to the default selections when you resume. The problem is that on some of these discs the string in the INF might be 500 characters long.

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm sure you'll find a way. Cause it kinda pissed me off i had to do an entire recode, still running atm. Had time yet to look at that multi-lang thing idea o' mine?

[Mark_Venture]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...37#post1501037

Ok. Cool. Thank you. That helps! Sorry I missed it being mentioned in the other thread.

I ended up using -> http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3...srt-or-sub-idx to pull the subtitles and convert to an SRT. Yup the OCR is horrible, but thankfully, for forced subs, there isn't much there so the effort needed isn't too bad

However that post you linked to says you can do multiple audio tracks. its discussed in the next few posts there too.. So I'm guessing that it still doesn't work? or am I doing something wrong?

[Capsbackup]

Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n

Cause it kinda pissed me off i had to do an entire recode, still running atm.

If you remember the settings, or are selective as to what additional selections/deselections you make over and above what is set in Setup, you will not have to start over.

[Ch3vr0n]

I was running FF5 with a 1 minute blanking timer. With those settings it's impossible to remember all streams

[DGenerateKane]

Originally Posted by DGenerateKane

Been awhile since I encoded any Blu-ray's, but I just started again recently. I did many successful rebuilds, but I keep getting the same error on two, BSG The Plan and Terminator 2. They both fail to retrieve audio, and tsmuxer stops responding and I have to force it to close. Any ideas what is wrong? I'm guessing something with my systems, as on the computer I normally encode blu-ray's BSG fails around 17% but I tried both on this computer and BSG failed before it could even do anything (although T2 seemed to fail at the same spot it did on my other system). Also, I searched this post for tsmuxer crashes and only found old posts about subs. I tried both without subs wih the same results. Also, Inspect.exe reports everything ok.

I'd still like to know why tsmuxer crashes at the same spot with both titles every time on two separate machines. Here is the latest log of BSG.

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[09:25:56] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
  - Source:  BSG_THE_PLAN
  - Input BD size: 38.64 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:04:30.092]
  - Target BD size: 22.90 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), Two Pass
  - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:25:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [09:25:56] Processing: VID_00096 (1 of 13)
 - [09:25:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
 - [09:25:57] Reencoding video [VID_00096]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,119 frames
   - Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
 - [09:25:57] Reencoding: VID_00096, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:26:03] Video Encode complete
 - [09:26:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:26:03] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:26:04] Processing: VID_00094 (2 of 13)
 - [09:26:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
 - [09:26:05] Reencoding video [VID_00094]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,353 frames
   - Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
 - [09:26:05] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:26:12] Video Encode complete
 - [09:26:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:26:12] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:26:12] Processing: VID_00093 (3 of 13)
 - [09:26:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
 - [09:26:14] Reencoding video [VID_00093]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,512 frames
   - Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
 - [09:26:14] Reencoding: VID_00093, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:26:21] Video Encode complete
 - [09:26:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:26:21] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:26:22] Processing: VID_00095 (4 of 13)
 - [09:26:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
 - [09:26:24] Reencoding video [VID_00095]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,160 frames
   - Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
 - [09:26:24] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:26:34] Video Encode complete
 - [09:26:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:26:34] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:26:34] Processing: VID_00086 (5 of 13)
 - [09:26:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00086]
 - [09:26:37] Reencoding video [VID_00086]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,084 frames
   - Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
 - [09:26:37] Reencoding: VID_00086, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:26:56] Video Encode complete
 - [09:26:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:26:56] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:26:57] Processing: VID_00092 (6 of 13)
 - [09:26:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
 - [09:27:00] Reencoding video [VID_00092]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,002 frames
   - Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
 - [09:27:00] Reencoding: VID_00092, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:27:22] Video Encode complete
 - [09:27:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:27:22] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:27:24] Processing: VID_00062 (7 of 13)
 - [09:27:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
 - [09:27:27] Reencoding video [VID_00062]
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,560 frames
 - [09:27:27] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:27:55] Video Encode complete
 - [09:27:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:27:55] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:27:57] Processing: VID_00097 (8 of 13)
 - [09:27:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
 - [09:28:02] Reencoding video [VID_00097]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,881 frames
   - Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
 - [09:28:02] Reencoding: VID_00097, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:28:47] Video Encode complete
 - [09:28:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:28:47] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:28:50] Processing: VID_00089 (9 of 13)
 - [09:28:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
 - [09:29:51] Reencoding video [VID_00089]
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,290 frames
 - [09:29:51] Reencoding: VID_00089, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:34:42] Video Encode complete
 - [09:34:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:34:42] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:34:57] Processing: VID_00088 (10 of 13)
 - [09:34:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00088]
 - [09:36:23] Reencoding video [VID_00088]
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 12,345 frames
 - [09:36:24] Reencoding: VID_00088, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:44:25] Video Encode complete
 - [09:44:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:44:25] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:44:56] Processing: VID_00087 (11 of 13)
 - [09:44:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00087]
 - [09:46:11] Reencoding video [VID_00087]
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 12,240 frames
 - [09:46:12] Reencoding: VID_00087, Pass 1 of 1
 - [09:54:09] Video Encode complete
 - [09:54:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [09:54:09] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:54:22] Processing: VID_00090 (12 of 13)
 - [09:54:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
 - [09:55:08] Reencoding video [VID_00090]
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 27,423 frames
 - [09:55:08] Reencoding: VID_00090, Pass 1 of 1
 - [10:05:00] Video Encode complete
 - [10:05:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [10:05:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [10:05:25] Processing: VID_00010 (13 of 13)
 - [10:05:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
 - Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
 - SmartLabs tsMuxeR.  Version 1.10.6  http://www.smlabs.net
[10:09:12] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[setarip_old]

@DGenerateKane

Hi!

Also, Inspect.exe reports everything ok.

Please post the actual report...

[Ch3vr0n]

@JD: Just finished testing FF5 (even though it had DTS-E), i must say that although BDRB didnt remember the blankin settings and i had to rerun the job the blanking itself performed PERFECTLY with a 1 minute timer. No annoying trailers whatsoever. Excellent work

[omegaman7]

I get the feeling, that if I run either dark city, or drag me to hell with "FORCE_NOENCODE", while blanking one title, and then run the output back through the program, it's still gonna compress the remaining title. I haven't attempted it yet. But I have a feeling, that's where you're gonna discover what's going on. E.g. something else needs to be blanked with the title. Whatever is referencing the blanked title, also needs to be blanked(or simply adapt the code to be aware of this). Sorry I can't be more specific. I really don't know much about this stuff :S

Well I'll be damned...
I'm looking at a very high bitrate for encode #2. I'm rerunning the output which was 24Gb with "FORCE_NOENCODE" set, and blanked one of the titles. So i'm not sure why it can't do the job correctly in encode #1, but a second encode might just work. I may be jumping the gun here, but the bitrate for remaining title is VERY high, I feel good about this one

I suppose I could have removed some audio tracks, and would have not needed the second encode. Or an encode at all What can I say, i'm picky.

Worked like a charm for "Dark City". I guess until the code can be updated, I'll be running titles like this one twice. Which isn't really a big deal. Because the first process requires no encoding, it doesn't take long. Blank the unwanted stuff, and then reload the output and start process 2. I wonder how the blanking is going for others though. E.g. are they finishing it all in one process, and getting the expected output size?

[jwjohnson]

Originally Posted by Mark_Venture

I've read as much of the thread as I could, but with 12.5K+ posts I probably missed something..

I'm still a little confused on how "forced subtitles" are handled.

I've read that if you go into "settings" -> setup -> choose English (eng) ONLY for your subtitle choice. Then UNCHECK "limit to one track for each language" it should keep forced subtitles.

Should that also work for "alternate Movie-Only output" mode? (I select MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio)

I just tried using BD-Rebuilder v0.39.01 to convert Star Wars ANH Bluray to MKV. While all the English sub titles show selected before I hit backup (and non-english have red X next to them), the resulting MKV contains NO subtitles (according to MediaInfo). I'm trying to get the ones where Greedo and Jaba are speaking...

I saw Capsbackup post something around post #12680 and a few follow ups, but I'm not sure if its the same thing, as that issue seems to be with regular subs, not forced, and DVD output rather than MKV?

Is it possible to have forced subs when using alt movie-only output as MKV file?

Also, not as important, should the resulting MKV have all selected audio streams embedded? (again, I did... Setup -> "settings" -> choose English (eng) ONLY for audio to keep. Then UNCHECK "limiti to one track for each language")... because it only has 1 (per MediaInfo)

Here's how I do forced subs:

1. Do a Movie Only backup with all English subs. (Unless you want a blu ray backup as well I set the output size at 60GB so no re-encoding is done. Faster that way).

2. Use BDSup2Sub to examine the subtitile files (they should still be in the BDRB /Workfiles folder) to determine which one contains the forced subs.

3. Create .mp4 (or .mkv) output with RibBot264. (Use the single .mt2s file made in step one as the input.) One of the settings for each job is which subtitle track to include. Just pick the one you identified above. The rest just set up according to what sort of output you want.

Mediainfo will not show any subtitles because it burns them into the video stream.

A couple of limitations: It's considerably slower than BDRB on my machine, and as far as I can tell you can only select one audio stream.

It has worked fine for me with titles such as Avatar, Taken, Tourist, Da Vinci Code and others.

[Ch3vr0n]

Update on FF5, the rebuilt disc jammed arround 36minutes. Something probably got blanked that shouldnt have been. The burnt double layer ISO from AnyDVD skipped past the problematic spot without a problem. I'll be running a new encode now. That being said the 2nd job i ran "Cop Out" performed flawlessly (though i did apparently have it blank the menu background, the menu itself was unaffected and behaved like it should)

[Tripledrop]

I've just converted a BD50 to BD25 (best quality), and the audio seems to start ok, but it goes out of sync towards the end of the episode. Is this fixable or is it worth converting again?

Thx

[colinhunt]

Could be I'm having a thick-o day (even more so than usual) but v0.39.01 is acting somewhat peculiarly.

I have not added ENABLE_TEST=1 to the .INI file. I tried to do a full backup of Citizen Kane (US) but BD-RB lists only the main movie in both Full Backup and Movie-Only Backup modes.

v0.38.09 lists 7 items in Full Backup mode:
VID_00020 (AVC 1080p Main Movie) 29 387,99 MB
VID_00055 (AVC 480i) 189,59 MB
VID_00060 (AVC 480i) 290,33 MB
VID_00063 (AVC 480i) 156,52 MB
VID_00073 (AVC 480i) 42,17 MB
VID_00074 (AVC 480i) 8,10 MB
VID_00075 (AVC 480i) 192,66 MB

v0.39.01 lists only VID_00020, no matter what I try.

[jdobbs]

@jagjockey

Best guess is that some other program has intercepted the AVC codec. Unistall BD-RB and its helper apps. Then, if you have any CODEC packs installed remove them (they aren't needed -- FFDSHOW has all the CODECs anyone needs). Then reinstall BD-RB and its apps again carefully following the instructions in the first post of this thread.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by colinhunt

Could be I'm having a thick-o day (even more so than usual) but v0.39.01 is acting somewhat peculiarly.

I have not added ENABLE_TEST=1 to the .INI file. I tried to do a full backup of Citizen Kane (US) but BD-RB lists only the main movie in both Full Backup and Movie-Only Backup modes.

v0.38.09 lists 7 items in Full Backup mode:
VID_00020 (AVC 1080p Main Movie) 29 387,99 MB
VID_00055 (AVC 480i) 189,59 MB
VID_00060 (AVC 480i) 290,33 MB
VID_00063 (AVC 480i) 156,52 MB
VID_00073 (AVC 480i) 42,17 MB
VID_00074 (AVC 480i) 8,10 MB
VID_00075 (AVC 480i) 192,66 MB

v0.39.01 lists only VID_00020, no matter what I try.

That just means the others are being kept intact for full backup. Usually that means they have certain flags that indicate they are menus (perhaps IGS subpaths) or are smaller than the MIN_M2TS_SIZE setting.

Movie-Only always shows only the main movie.

[colinhunt]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

That just means the others are being kept intact for full backup.

So, uh, 0.39.01 does not list all the items it will include in the full backup?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by colinhunt

So, uh, 0.39.01 does not list all the items it will include in the full backup?

So, uh, neither did any of the previous versions... it only lists the ones that will be processed.

[colinhunt]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

So, uh, neither did any of the previous versions... it only lists the ones that will be processed.

OK, now I'm totally confused (not hard to achieve, admittedly). In Full Backup mode (of Citizen Kane), 0.38.09 lists 7 items, while 0.39.01 lists only 1 item. Is that how it's supposed to be?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by colinhunt

OK, now I'm totally confused (not hard to achieve, admittedly). In Full Backup mode (of Citizen Kane), 0.38.09 lists 7 items, while 0.39.01 lists only 1 item. Is that how it's supposed to be?

Yes. There have been several improvements added in v0.39.01 to identify items should be "left alone" when possible. That's because they have a high risk for causing issues. For example, in previous versions a stream with an IGS substream would put it in that category. In v0.39.01, I have added code to look also at substreams. I've also added about 5 other analysis criteria as well. I had to, because opening those items up for editing creates a whole new world of "how careful should I be".

Here's the bottom line... when you run that disc --- does it work? Does it look a good as the original? We're squabbling about minutia here that is of virtually zero importance. Leaving a few hundred megabytes intact on a 25GB target is rounding figures.

BD-RB has always done this selection analysis to provide better speed and compatibility. Now it just does it better. BD-9 output, however, it another matter. Since the original's maximum bitrate is too high and the target is too small, BD-RB doesn't have the luxury of deciding to leave some things intact. Instead it has to go through a whole list of additional hoops (like going through the entire target M2TS -- resetting DTS, PTS and other timing codes when the "leave alones" are reencoded). That's especially true when there is an out-of-mux substream that is interactive. That takes time and increases risk.