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Old 29th October 2007, 20:32   #1801  |  Link
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Old 30th October 2007, 01:17   #1802  |  Link
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Error : FilePath: F:\t\join\transformers1.avc.ves
Error Content: Value of Gaps_in_frame_num_value_allowed_flag is not supported in the BD standard

getting this error in scenarist any help to remove the flags.

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Old 1st November 2007, 07:21   #1803  |  Link
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You can demultiplex EVO file with Elecard XMuxer.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 22:05   #1804  |  Link
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You can demultiplex EVO file with Elecard XMuxer.
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Yes let's pay $60 for a DirectShow GUI because we're all retarded.

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Old 4th November 2007, 21:48   #1805  |  Link
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Error : FilePath: F:\t\join\transformers1.avc.ves
Error Content: Value of Gaps_in_frame_num_value_allowed_flag is not supported in the BD standard

getting this error in scenarist any help to remove the flags.

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Same problem here. Would appreciate any help to get around this without recompressing.
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Old 8th November 2007, 05:46   #1806  |  Link
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Error : FilePath: F:\t\join\transformers1.avc.ves
Error Content: Value of Gaps_in_frame_num_value_allowed_flag is not supported in the BD standard

getting this error in scenarist any help to remove the flags.

Thanks
Well, I was able to remove the gaps flag from the transformers h264 stream, but more problems arose. In the h264 stream, if you use a hex editor to change 81 E0 08 to 01 E0 08, you will change the gaps header flag from 1 to 0. Note that this header flag is repeated ~19,000 times in the stream. I think you only need to change the first couple, but I changed them all.

However, once this is done, scenarist complains that FrameRateCode is not BD compliant. Im not exactly sure what FrameRateCode is, as it doesnt appear to be a part of the header structure. I used h264info to force a 30fps frame rate with no effect. same with 60fps. Also, playing the raw stream gave some dropout frames and some garbled frames.

Not sure where to go from here to fix the timing issues.
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Old 8th November 2007, 08:32   #1807  |  Link
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Well, I was able to remove the gaps flag from the transformers h264 stream, but more problems arose. In the h264 stream, if you use a hex editor to change 81 E0 08 to 01 E0 08, you will change the gaps header flag from 1 to 0. Note that this header flag is repeated ~19,000 times in the stream. I think you only need to change the first couple, but I changed them all.

However, once this is done, scenarist complains that FrameRateCode is not BD compliant. Im not exactly sure what FrameRateCode is, as it doesnt appear to be a part of the header structure. I used h264info to force a 30fps frame rate with no effect. same with 60fps. Also, playing the raw stream gave some dropout frames and some garbled frames.

Not sure where to go from here to fix the timing issues.
Does scenarist complain about "FrameRateCode" or is it really "fixed_frame_rate_flag" (which must be 1 for Blu-ray)?

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Old 8th November 2007, 11:05   #1808  |  Link
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Now I'm getting errors when I want to load the demuxed and rebuild evo into the haali media splitter in the Graphedit, but the original evos work...

Filter failed to load file. Der Medientyp dieser Datei ist unbekannt (Return Code: 0x80040240) (Mediatype is unknown)

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Old 8th November 2007, 15:45   #1809  |  Link
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Does scenarist complain about "FrameRateCode" or is it really "fixed_frame_rate_flag" (which must be 1 for Blu-ray)?

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I looked into that. Scenarist complains about "FrameRateCode". I checked the fixed_frame_rate_flag and it was set properly. Elecard makes a nice utility to display the current state of all the header flags (Stream Analyzer).
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Old 9th November 2007, 19:40   #1810  |  Link
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Well, I was able to remove the gaps flag from the transformers h264 stream, but more problems arose. In the h264 stream, if you use a hex editor to change 81 E0 08 to 01 E0 08, you will change the gaps header flag from 1 to 0. Note that this header flag is repeated ~19,000 times in the stream. I think you only need to change the first couple, but I changed them all.

However, once this is done, scenarist complains that FrameRateCode is not BD compliant. Im not exactly sure what FrameRateCode is, as it doesnt appear to be a part of the header structure. I used h264info to force a 30fps frame rate with no effect. same with 60fps. Also, playing the raw stream gave some dropout frames and some garbled frames.

Not sure where to go from here to fix the timing issues.
Thanks a lot for this. I tried what you did and I have the same result of course. I wonder if this is the end of the road. I am no expert but it seems that FrameRateCode is just a number to indicate what is the framerate of the encoded video. It seems like the Transformers avc stream is encoded in a framerate that is compliant HD-DVD but not compliant BD. I don't think we can do much without recompressing everything? Unless some 3:2 pulldown thing can help?

Anybody knows what are the BD compliant frame rates. A program to see the framerate of a avc elementary stream would also help. Seems like stream analyzer does indeed not show this.
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Old 11th November 2007, 07:32   #1811  |  Link
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Thanks a lot for this. I tried what you did and I have the same result of course. I wonder if this is the end of the road. I am no expert but it seems that FrameRateCode is just a number to indicate what is the framerate of the encoded video. It seems like the Transformers avc stream is encoded in a framerate that is compliant HD-DVD but not compliant BD. I don't think we can do much without recompressing everything? Unless some 3:2 pulldown thing can help?

Anybody knows what are the BD compliant frame rates. A program to see the framerate of a avc elementary stream would also help. Seems like stream analyzer does indeed not show this.

I am pretty sure transformers is 1080p60. I tried to force 30 and 60fps using h264info, with and without 3:2 pulldown, but it continued to be noncompliant.

One thing was curious - after forcing different frame rates, the frame related headers always stayed the same:

timing_info_present_flag = 1
num_units_in_tick = 1001
time_scale = 60000
fixed_frame_rate_flag = 1

Maybe if these were changed using a hexeditor... I just dont know exactly what the values mean.
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Old 11th November 2007, 10:33   #1812  |  Link
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There is only one Blu-ray release so far (The Lives of Others/Das Leben der Anderen) which uses 24fps, all others are 23.976fps.
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Old 11th November 2007, 11:16   #1813  |  Link
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honai, I heard that Infernal Affairs blu-ray (from Asia I think) uses 24 fps.
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Old 12th November 2007, 15:54   #1814  |  Link
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I am pretty sure transformers is 1080p60. I tried to force 30 and 60fps using h264info, with and without 3:2 pulldown, but it continued to be noncompliant.

One thing was curious - after forcing different frame rates, the frame related headers always stayed the same:

timing_info_present_flag = 1
num_units_in_tick = 1001
time_scale = 60000
fixed_frame_rate_flag = 1

Maybe if these were changed using a hexeditor... I just dont know exactly what the values mean.
Anyone found out more about this? Ofcourse the track is clearly 1080p24, yet every app reports 60fps.

I've been struggling for some time now trying to feed MeGui this track using evodemux and evo-demux. Also, evodemux doesnt seem to rebuild the track correctly (when merging the two evobs)
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Old 12th November 2007, 16:47   #1815  |  Link
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Didn't have any problems remuxing Transformers HD-DVD. What errors are you running into?
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Old 12th November 2007, 21:02   #1816  |  Link
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Didn't have any problems remuxing Transformers HD-DVD. What errors are you running into?
I'll have to check later what's exactly going wrong but it seems only the cyberlink filters will connect to the haali source (merged evo) and it does play (very slow!) then Megui fails to import the avs.

Ill have to get back here to give full detail about the connections that fail and the megui error.
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Old 12th November 2007, 21:12   #1817  |  Link
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I am pretty sure transformers is 1080p60. I tried to force 30 and 60fps using h264info, with and without 3:2 pulldown, but it continued to be noncompliant.

One thing was curious - after forcing different frame rates, the frame related headers always stayed the same:

timing_info_present_flag = 1
num_units_in_tick = 1001
time_scale = 60000
fixed_frame_rate_flag = 1

Maybe if these were changed using a hexeditor... I just dont know exactly what the values mean.
Well, seems like others says the movie is 1080p/24fps, so I don't know what to say. As for the hex editing, I am no master in finding out values to replace. Maybe somebody can help us here in this thread? The goal is to make Scenarist HDMV recognize the avc elementary stream from Transformers as compliant.

One thing that is "special" about this release is that there is an VC-1 imbedded for the picture in picture stuff but it is seen as a separate track in evodemux so when you extract only the main AVC movie there should be nothing left out of the VC-1 720x480 PIP stream but who knows?
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Old 14th November 2007, 11:54   #1818  |  Link
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Doesn't work for me. When I play the final movie it goes into high speed for a few seconds after the join.

I also find that the playback time values as displayed in PowerDVD are wrong (up to 50% too high) in any m2ts that has been through TsRemux.
Hi,

I have the same issue with 4 mixed m2ts.
My SetTopBox played only the first .ts and stop after.

In the m2ts, there are MPEG2 and DD5.1.
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Old 14th November 2007, 21:59   #1819  |  Link
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it's been a while since i've toyed with manipulating evo files...could someone refresh my memory on which filter one should use as source before say, the sonic HD demuxer? file source (async) isn't it, is it? thanks for the assist.
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...file source (async) isn't it, is it?...
Did you try to answer your own question by actually trying it?
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