Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA! - Page 510

JohnLai · 21st October 2009, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoborg

Vista + Win7 only. Blame Intel the are not able to release XP DXVA drivers...

Ouch.....does that mean i have to fork out $$ for vista in order to have the dxva functionality?

thuan · 21st October 2009, 18:57

Why buy Vista now, it's so yesterday?

But yes I'm on Vista now, stupid ASUS can't release a working set of Windows 7 Xonar driver, I haven't tested their latest beta though but I doubt it works now.

STaRGaZeR · 21st October 2009, 19:59

Because 7 has an atrocious Windows Explorer?

khagaroth · 21st October 2009, 20:50

And what sane person uses Windows Explorer on any version of Windows?

pirlouy · 21st October 2009, 22:00

OT:
Xp windows explorer is a reference ! :-)
I really don't like total commander and all this kind of explorers.

Klaus_1250 · 21st October 2009, 22:44

I tried running MPC rev 1301 (and several earlier builds) on an Asus Eee PC 1101HA (Z520+GMA500) with Windows XP, but when using h264+DXVA, I get an instant BSOD. Using MPC-HC with PDVD 9 (DXVA enabled) and an h264, no problems (except for some stuttering). Seems MPC-HC is feeding the GMA500 something it doesn't like when using DXVA.

Also, does anyone have some tips to improve playback performance on the Asus Eee PC? I can get about 20fps max with an L4.1 2Mbps H264, but it seems that playback performance is not so much hampered by the GMA500 (no blockiness or artefacts) but by the display renderer (VMR9 renderless in my case) and the MPC-HC UI. Especially the latter seems very heavy. I know subs are heavy, but using the right mouse menu during playback causes major framedrops. Same goes for Display stats, not usable.

Mixer73 · 21st October 2009, 22:47

I've found the Haali rendererer superior in lower power machines but I don't use subs, and iirc Haali doesn't support them?

STaRGaZeR · 21st October 2009, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by khagaroth

And what sane person uses Windows Explorer on any version of Windows?

~99,9% of Windows users?

Wait, you said sane...

Mangix · 21st October 2009, 23:47

Haali supports subs

namaiki · 22nd October 2009, 05:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnLai

Ouch.....does that mean i have to fork out $$ for vista in order to have the dxva functionality?

Forget DXVA for now.. Just use some multithreaded filter with default settings and it's pretty much the same thing, unless you're actually experiencing performance related issues when playing certain H.264 encoded videos.

tetsuo55 · 22nd October 2009, 06:41

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Originally Posted by Mixer73

I've found the Haali rendererer superior in lower power machines but I don't use subs, and iirc Haali doesn't support them?

i find that strange seeing that haali is very cpu intensive when compared to renderers like overlay

Mixer73 · 22nd October 2009, 06:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsuo55

i find that strange seeing that haali is very cpu intensive when compared to renderers like overlay

Sorry I should clarify, my machine has Core2Duo processor but only Intel chipset for graphics.

tetsuo55 · 22nd October 2009, 07:17

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Originally Posted by Mixer73

Sorry I should clarify, my machine has Core2Duo processor but only Intel chipset for graphics.

Yeah thats a good system for haali, but an atom chip might be to slow for haali

Mixer73 · 22nd October 2009, 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsuo55

Yeah thats a good system for haali, but an atom chip might be to slow for haali

I just found all the settings that normally work well on my desktop PC don't work for shit with the Intel and the Haali renderer worked very well, I still get tearing but I'll have to live with it.

namaiki · 22nd October 2009, 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer73

I just found all the settings that normally work well on my desktop PC don't work for shit with the Intel and the Haali renderer worked very well, I still get tearing but I'll have to live with it.

What kinds of settings were you using and which intel card?
EVR-CP all default settings appears to work perfectly for me with a core 2 duo 1.6 GHz + intel 965

For me Haali's Renderer is better performing on XP and EVR-CP is better performing on Vista and up.

avivahl · 22nd October 2009, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by clsid

That is a known bug. It also happens with the Cyberlink MPEG-2 decoder when DXVA is enabled.

Alright... I filed a ticket then...
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func...61&atid=854651

Piyoko · 22nd October 2009, 20:16

Is there any way to manually load an external audio track when playing a file? Like how you can load external subtitles from the menu or with Ctrl+L.

Because the LPCM mono bug hasn't been fixed (and seems to be more or less buried and forgotten in bug report hell) I can't play any of my Criterion Blu-rays. However then I thought of the brilliant idea that I could demux the mono tracks, do a simple conversion to stereo (dual mono), and then load them as external audio tracks while playing the .m2ts files from the Blu-rays.

But then I came upon the above problem, that I can't seem to find any way to load them in MPC-HC unless they are in the same folder, which is of course impossible since the video is on disc.

Can anyone think of a solution (maybe some command line arguments?) that doesn't involve copying the 30+ gig movie files to my hard drive?

Inspector.Gadget · 22nd October 2009, 20:18

Use the "Open file..." option instead of the "Quick open file..." option. Use the second box to pick the audio file.

Snowknight26 · 22nd October 2009, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piyoko

However then I thought of the brilliant idea that I could demux the mono tracks, do a simple conversion to stereo (dual mono)?

Why not just convert the audio to FLAC?

Piyoko · 22nd October 2009, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector.Gadget

Use the "Open file..." option instead of the "Quick open file..." option. Use the second box to pick the audio file.

Awesome, thanks a lot! Had totally missed that option.

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Piyoko Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 29	Is there any way to manually load an external audio track when playing a file? Like how you can load external subtitles from the menu or with Ctrl+L. Because the LPCM mono bug hasn't been fixed (and seems to be more or less buried and forgotten in bug report hell) I can't play any of my Criterion Blu-rays. However then I thought of the brilliant idea that I could demux the mono tracks, do a simple conversion to stereo (dual mono), and then load them as external audio tracks while playing the .m2ts files from the Blu-rays. But then I came upon the above problem, that I can't seem to find any way to load them in MPC-HC unless they are in the same folder, which is of course impossible since the video is on disc. Can anyone think of a solution (maybe some command line arguments?) that doesn't involve copying the 30+ gig movie files to my hard drive? Last edited by Piyoko; 22nd October 2009 at 20:18.

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thuan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vietnam, HCM City Posts: 262	Why buy Vista now, it's so yesterday? But yes I'm on Vista now, stupid ASUS can't release a working set of Windows 7 Xonar driver, I haven't tested their latest beta though but I doubt it works now.

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khagaroth Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 103	And what sane person uses Windows Explorer on any version of Windows?

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pirlouy _ Join Date: May 2008 Location: France Posts: 692	OT: Xp windows explorer is a reference ! :-) I really don't like total commander and all this kind of explorers.

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Klaus_1250 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 45	I tried running MPC rev 1301 (and several earlier builds) on an Asus Eee PC 1101HA (Z520+GMA500) with Windows XP, but when using h264+DXVA, I get an instant BSOD. Using MPC-HC with PDVD 9 (DXVA enabled) and an h264, no problems (except for some stuttering). Seems MPC-HC is feeding the GMA500 something it doesn't like when using DXVA. Also, does anyone have some tips to improve playback performance on the Asus Eee PC? I can get about 20fps max with an L4.1 2Mbps H264, but it seems that playback performance is not so much hampered by the GMA500 (no blockiness or artefacts) but by the display renderer (VMR9 renderless in my case) and the MPC-HC UI. Especially the latter seems very heavy. I know subs are heavy, but using the right mouse menu during playback causes major framedrops. Same goes for Display stats, not usable.

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Mixer73 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 240	I've found the Haali rendererer superior in lower power machines but I don't use subs, and iirc Haali doesn't support them?

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Mangix Audiophile Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	Haali supports subs

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Inspector.Gadget Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,618	Use the "Open file..." option instead of the "Quick open file..." option. Use the second box to pick the audio file.