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2nd February 2007, 11:46 | #381 | Link |
20-35 a win for Revolver.
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WHAOOOooOOoo !!!
How smooth the playback is now !!! ... ... Never obtain that even with Overlay+Reclock ... This render is about to become (IMO) the ultimate render !!! NB: I use MPC with : DScaler(YU2) -> FFDShow(resize)(RGB32) -> Haali's Render The only "bad" points are: > seeking freeze the video... > rarely, some tearing can be seen ( very rarely but ... ) > "sometimes", the playback never start ?! ... ( reality is more "sometimes playback start ... lol ) ... MPC's "client surface" isn't painted ... CPU are quiet, HDD too ... ?! And the more strange is that the problem occur 2, 3 times, and ... playback start ... after closing MPC, problem for some times ... test done always on same file ( but the problem occur with all files here ) ... maybe my setup ?! ... to be continued ... An idea ? Last edited by Seb.26; 2nd February 2007 at 15:55. |
2nd February 2007, 12:19 | #383 | Link | |
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i know its not the same frame >.> but thats kinda difficult in mpc fullscreenmode and no my stream is progressive it appears always!, not only in 1 video... and ffshow outputs yuv2 (forgot that as well) Last edited by Warpman; 2nd February 2007 at 12:22. |
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2nd February 2007, 13:11 | #384 | Link | |
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Ok ... ... just to be sure ...
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And about your "problem" ... I thing it's due to the new way used to resize ( multi pass with simple PS vs single pass with complex shader ) ... try to reduce the sharp value ( -0.75 ie ) maybe you will retrieve the same picture than older release ... Also, don't forget to press the "Apply" button ... Last edited by Seb.26; 2nd February 2007 at 14:10. |
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( NB: but I think the setup isn't real time ... press APPLY to see new render ... ) Tips : to see the change, you can enable OSD in FFDShow : 0 to -1 change can easly be seen on font ... Last edited by Seb.26; 2nd February 2007 at 14:09. |
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2nd February 2007, 14:48 | #389 | Link | |
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I which we could have such a renderer for MPlayer
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6th February 2007, 09:10 | #390 | Link |
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I have that problem as well. While every new version seems to seek faster, seeking performance is still well below that of VMR modes.
Some people watch the movie from start to finish in one go. For such people, seeking isn't important. For people like me who jump back and forth all the time, do slow motion, fast forward, jump back again, jump forward again etc. etc., seeking performance is important. On high resolution divx movies with ZoomPlayer, Haali takes around 1,5 seconds to show the picture when seeking. That's on a Core2 Duo system. In comparison, VMR9 takes 0,3-0,4 seconds. I'm nitpicking here though, it's a fantastic renderer. Just a bit more speed wouldn't hurt though. |
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But (I don't know why) sometimes, I haven't any problem ... and sometimes, the render don't want to work ... |
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6th February 2007, 12:43 | #393 | Link | |
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Hum ... queue ?! ... for sure I use this (great) feature with VMR9, but don't remember if I have disabled it or not ... What is better ? ( enable queue or not ? ) ... I think FFDShow's queue isn't really usefull due to the buffer inside the render ... do you think the problem can be from queue ?! I must say that H'sgR ( Haali's great Render ) almost work now, maybe I have disabled queue ... I will control this ... need to test it more, but it work ... ( I use it in my HTPC ... ) The main problem ( 4 me ) is the tearing in the bottom of the screen ... ... I can't undestand why there is some tearing ... I haven't any tearing in games ( when vsync is ON ) ... ... so there is why in Haali's render ? ( the render thread don't wait vsync before swap front buffer & back buffer ?! ) Anyway, I will test it more ... by watching a film tonight !!! Last edited by Seb.26; 6th February 2007 at 13:48. |
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7th February 2007, 03:49 | #395 | Link |
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in MPC disable: "Lock back-buffer before presenting"...
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7th February 2007, 07:09 | #398 | Link |
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Thankyou Haali
But not sure i understand, so if I am using MPC's built in MPEG-2 codec, how would i tell it to use your renderer's deinterlacer instead of its own? Would it be faster since it uses shaders and thus my video card? |
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Anyway, your render have impress a lot of people on french HTPC forum, it's a fantastic render !!! ... every day more and more people try it ... and keep it ! So thanks a lot for your hard work ... and continue like that ... And it's true Haali : we love you !!! |
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7th February 2007, 11:18 | #400 | Link |
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Hi,
Something "strange" (at least for me) with Haali renderer: I'm watching this video: http://hannibalrisingexclusive.com/q...il_320x240.mov Format : QuickTime Format/Info : Quictime movie Format/Family : MPEG-4 File size : 11.1 MiB PlayTime : 5mn 21s Bit rate : 290 Kbps StreamSize : 138 KiB Encoded date : UTC 2007-01-27 08:20:08 Tagged date : UTC 2007-01-26 23:20:17 Writing application : Sorenson Squeeze 4.5 Video #0 Codec : H.264 Codec/Info : H.264 (3GPP) PlayTime : 5mn 21s Bit rate : 223 Kbps Width : 320 pixels Height : 240 pixels Aspect ratio : 4/3 Frame rate : 30.000 fps Minimum frame rate : 30.000 fps Maximum frame rate : 31.579 fps StreamSize : 8.54 MiB Encoded date : UTC 2007-01-25 19:20:11 Tagged date : UTC 2007-01-26 23:20:18 Audio #0 Codec : AAC Codec/Family : AAC PlayTime : 5mn 21s Bit rate : 64 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Resolution : 16 bits StreamSize : 2.45 MiB Encoded date : UTC 2007-01-25 19:20:11 Tagged date : UTC 2007-01-26 23:20:17 When I use Haali Renderless I get this image: Setting with Haali: buffers (256), frames (256), sharpness(0) or sharpness(-1). When I use VMR9 Renderless I get this image: Setting with VMR9 renderless: Render 3D + Bilinear PS 2.0 I'm using the latest MPC (mplayerc.rev611-3.2) from celtic_druid and ffdshow 885. Output with ffdshow set to RGB32. And no filters enable with ffdshow. I 've tried with the sharpness set to 0 or -1 without any difference. And before Seb.26 asks yes I have press the Apply button, close MPC and then played the video. So in case nobody notice, my "problem" is that with Halli I have pixels, the image is less smooth than with VMR9. I though something could be done by playing with the sharpness but it seems that not? Is there something wrong with the sharpness or is this the normal image with Haali and nothing can be done? Thanks |
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