ffdshow tryouts project: Discussion & Development - Page 411

SamuriHL · 30th September 2009, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emilot

Can you tell us what reclock says???thanks....

It's getting 48KHz, 2 channel, 16 bit PCM.

rica · 30th September 2009, 23:24

Thanks for the trial.
But i think some more reports are needed coming from 4*** series users.

Otherwise albains has to find a way to put it into a package

SamuriHL · 30th September 2009, 23:29

I'm still open to any other suggestions. I fully believe it could be something stupid I'm doing/not doing. Anything I need to know about setting up the ffdshow options?

SamuriHL · 30th September 2009, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

Thanks for the trial.
But i think some more reports are needed coming from 4*** series users.

Otherwise albains has to find a way to put it into a package

I honestly wish someone else with a 5870 would try this, as well, cause I'm not comfortable with my lack of knowledge here. Totally out of my element on this one.

SamuriHL · 30th September 2009, 23:40

So far I'm just getting garbled junk coming through. The receiver lights up with PCM (not multi-channel) and the output is garbled completely. I have disabled the internal filters for mpc-hc and am using ffdshow external filters as my preferred. I can see ffdshow come up on the taskbar when the sound and video are playing so that's all good. I have reclock set to wasapi exclusive for pcm and I have mpc-hd set to use reclock as the default output device. In ffdshow I enabled all the audio codecs and set the new experimental checkbox. Reclock shows 48KHz, 2 channel, PCM.

rica · 30th September 2009, 23:55

Open FFDShow Audio Decoder Properties page under graphstudio/graphedit.

Under "DirectShow Control" menu,
find mixer > output.

Select "Pass-through > Dolby True HD (or whatever)

Select "24 bit integer" under "Supported Output sample Formats"

Select "Connect to" any filter

Select "HDMI" under "Multichannel device"
And click to "Apply" and restart the application.

SamuriHL · 1st October 2009, 00:01

I had most of that. I didn't have 24 bit checked. But, unfortunately, ReClock is still showing 2 channel, 48, 16 bit on this track. I don't get it.

rica · 1st October 2009, 00:03

So i think nothing is missing in this case, thx.

SamuriHL · 1st October 2009, 00:09

Well that's not what I wanted to hear!

I wanted you to come back and say "idiot, click this!" sigh.

WOA WOA WOA here. Just on a whim I decided to try a DTS-HD MA track. I'm getting the same reading in reclock...48, 2 channel, 16 bit PCM. I'm seeing ONLY pcm lit up on my receiver. However, I'm getting sound in all channels. What the????? The sound is not garbled like the TrueHD test track. I'm not seeing a DTS-HD MA light. Is it just decoding DTS core?

liquidskin76 · 1st October 2009, 00:12

I've got everything setup as per rica's recommended settings however nothing is showing on my av receiver.

Interestingly though, when playing ffdshow its showing in the taskbar area. When i hover over it, it reports for a TrueHD movie...

Input: 48000 Hz, 6 channels 1 kbps Dolby True HD (bitstream)
Output: 48000 Hz, 6 channels Bitstream Dol

...and a DTS-HD movie reports...

Input: 48000 Hz, 6 Channels 3kbps DTS HD (bitstream)
Output: 48000 Hz, 6 Channels Bitstream DTS-HD

I'm on a integrated ION Nvidia HDMI 1.3 audio card.

I've got the experimental WAVEEXTENSIBLE_IEC61937 stucture unticked.

SamuriHL · 1st October 2009, 00:13

Yea, it's only doing core. I'm not getting DTS-HD MA. I'm quite sure on this. So no, this is not working for me.

SamuriHL · 1st October 2009, 00:15

It's showing DTS 1536 for me and playing sound. I went in and set ONLY the HD codecs (yet I'm still getting the core DTS?? OOOK) and now TrueHD gives me no audio at all instead of the garbled audio from before. So, no, it's not working for me at all.

liquidskin76 · 1st October 2009, 00:21

If i tick the WAVEEXTENSIBLE_IEC61937 option, strangely i get the DTS core passed through to my receiver! Unfortunately the TrueHD track i have has the AC3 core stripped out so i can't tell if the AC3 core would be passed though.

@Albain... would this be because my audio card doesn't support WAVEEXTENSIBLE_IEC61937, it's falling back to the usual normal ffdshow decoding (like you created in beta 5)?

rica · 1st October 2009, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

So, no, it's not working for me at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Well that's not what I wanted to hear!

No comment else for the time being

SamuriHL · 1st October 2009, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

No comment else for the time being

Well, I'm done playing for now. At least I know how to set it all up if something changes. It should be noted I'm using the RC6 ATI driver on ATI's website for the 5870. That includes their HDMI audio driver, as well. I'm not using the realtek driver at all. If anything changes I can try again. For now I've uninstalled ffdshow so as not to mess with my normal media playing setup. (It shouldn't anyway, but, I'm overly cautious about what I have installed)

Andy o · 1st October 2009, 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

andi o, vladd and samurihl:
we are expecting the trial results

Don't look at me... I only have a 4670. I suspect vladd has his hands tied as much as me too.

*AHEM*

SamuriHL · 1st October 2009, 00:48

Vladd already said he's not able to buy new hardware right now else we may find him lying in a ditch with a kitchen knife stuck in his head.

So I guess I'm one of the lucky few with a 5xxx card that can test this. And I'm willing to do so whenever someone has an idea to get it to work.

rica · 1st October 2009, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy o

Don't look at me... I only have a 4670. I suspect vladd has his hands tied as much as me too.

*AHEM*

And no good news as of right now?
Anyway discussion has just started.

Andy o · 1st October 2009, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

Uninstall haali first. (if you have already installed any.)

Install MPC-HC latest version and its standalone filters:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/files/

Register MpegSplitter.ax (MPC MPEG Source-Gabest-), MPCVidDec.ax (MPC Video Decoder)

Install ffdshow beta 7

Open MPC-HC:

View > Options:

Internal filters: Untick all selected boxes (by default)

Output:

Select "RecLock" under DirectShow Audio option box.

External Filters:

Find out these under external filters list , add and select for everyone "prefer" as merit:

MPC MPEG Source-Gabest, MPC Video Decoder, ffdshow audio decoder.

I don't think there's a need to do all that. I have Haali installed, but I have just selected MPEG PS/TS/PVA on MPC-HC's internal filters, and have ffdshow up and running with TrueHD that way for m2ts files. For mkv, I also select "Matroska". Haven't installed the new beta though. MPC-HC is version 1.3.1280 I think.

rica · 1st October 2009, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy o

I don't think there's a need to do all that. I have Haali installed, but I have just selected MPEG PS/TS/PVA on MPC-HC's internal filters, and have ffdshow up and running with TrueHD that way for m2ts files. For mkv, I also select "Matroska". Haven't installed the new beta though. MPC-HC is version 1.3.1280 I think.

I know but i wanted to simplify. Haali is a source+demuxer filter which is always preferred even you select any demuxer in most cases.

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rica Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,021	Thanks for the trial. But i think some more reports are needed coming from 4*** series users. Otherwise albains has to find a way to put it into a package Last edited by rica; 30th September 2009 at 23:28.

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liquidskin76 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 233	I've got everything setup as per rica's recommended settings however nothing is showing on my av receiver. Interestingly though, when playing ffdshow its showing in the taskbar area. When i hover over it, it reports for a TrueHD movie... Input: 48000 Hz, 6 channels 1 kbps Dolby True HD (bitstream) Output: 48000 Hz, 6 channels Bitstream Dol ...and a DTS-HD movie reports... Input: 48000 Hz, 6 Channels 3kbps DTS HD (bitstream) Output: 48000 Hz, 6 Channels Bitstream DTS-HD I'm on a integrated ION Nvidia HDMI 1.3 audio card. I've got the experimental WAVEEXTENSIBLE_IEC61937 stucture unticked. Last edited by liquidskin76; 1st October 2009 at 00:22.

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	I'm still open to any other suggestions. I fully believe it could be something stupid I'm doing/not doing. Anything I need to know about setting up the ffdshow options?

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	So far I'm just getting garbled junk coming through. The receiver lights up with PCM (not multi-channel) and the output is garbled completely. I have disabled the internal filters for mpc-hc and am using ffdshow external filters as my preferred. I can see ffdshow come up on the taskbar when the sound and video are playing so that's all good. I have reclock set to wasapi exclusive for pcm and I have mpc-hd set to use reclock as the default output device. In ffdshow I enabled all the audio codecs and set the new experimental checkbox. Reclock shows 48KHz, 2 channel, PCM.

30th September 2009, 23:55	#8206 \| Link
rica Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,021	Open FFDShow Audio Decoder Properties page under graphstudio/graphedit. Under "DirectShow Control" menu, find mixer > output. Select "Pass-through > Dolby True HD (or whatever) Select "24 bit integer" under "Supported Output sample Formats" Select "Connect to" any filter Select "HDMI" under "Multichannel device" And click to "Apply" and restart the application.

1st October 2009, 00:01	#8207 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	I had most of that. I didn't have 24 bit checked. But, unfortunately, ReClock is still showing 2 channel, 48, 16 bit on this track. I don't get it.

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rica Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,021	So i think nothing is missing in this case, thx.

1st October 2009, 00:09	#8209 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Well that's not what I wanted to hear! I wanted you to come back and say "idiot, click this!" sigh. WOA WOA WOA here. Just on a whim I decided to try a DTS-HD MA track. I'm getting the same reading in reclock...48, 2 channel, 16 bit PCM. I'm seeing ONLY pcm lit up on my receiver. However, I'm getting sound in all channels. What the????? The sound is not garbled like the TrueHD test track. I'm not seeing a DTS-HD MA light. Is it just decoding DTS core?

1st October 2009, 00:13	#8211 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Yea, it's only doing core. I'm not getting DTS-HD MA. I'm quite sure on this. So no, this is not working for me.

1st October 2009, 00:15	#8212 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	It's showing DTS 1536 for me and playing sound. I went in and set ONLY the HD codecs (yet I'm still getting the core DTS?? OOOK) and now TrueHD gives me no audio at all instead of the garbled audio from before. So, no, it's not working for me at all.

1st October 2009, 00:21	#8213 \| Link
liquidskin76 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 233	If i tick the WAVEEXTENSIBLE_IEC61937 option, strangely i get the DTS core passed through to my receiver! Unfortunately the TrueHD track i have has the AC3 core stripped out so i can't tell if the AC3 core would be passed though. @Albain... would this be because my audio card doesn't support WAVEEXTENSIBLE_IEC61937, it's falling back to the usual normal ffdshow decoding (like you created in beta 5)?

1st October 2009, 00:48	#8217 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Vladd already said he's not able to buy new hardware right now else we may find him lying in a ditch with a kitchen knife stuck in his head. So I guess I'm one of the lucky few with a 5xxx card that can test this. And I'm willing to do so whenever someone has an idea to get it to work.