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Old 3rd July 2009, 03:44   #1401  |  Link
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Madshi, if you are out there...

I reinstalled Vista on my PC over the weekend.

And the occasional glitch in playback I was getting is gone (it wasn't a madVR thing, it happened in all players, all setups).


I've now watched two complete movies, without the slightest jump/jerk/stutter/nothing. Perfectly smooth, for hours on end.


My setup is Reclock and madVR in Zoomplayer, with Ffdshow for the video decoder (well, running wmv9 inside ffdshow for VC-1), and madFLAC feeding Ffdshow Audio. Display is a secondary monitor running 1920*1080 interlaced at 96hz (48hz interlaced to Powerstrip).


I do have stability issues when resizing the window, or sometimes on starting play, or restarting play. But as far as I am concerned the smooth playback features work fine.



However, it took a while to come good. After installation, and after Reclock settled down, I was still getting jerky playback. After a while, and a few restarts of Zoom Player it came good....really good. Spookily smooth.

I tried Win7, but had tearing and jerkiness with a similar setup (identical except I was running 1080p 48hz as I couldn't get interlacing to work on Win7).


So thank you for you efforts so far, this is the smoothest playback I have ever seen from a PC. And it does seem to me that Vista32 is still the path of least resistance for a HTPC.

Mark

Edit: I should add that I trimmed Vista down after installation. Turned off lots of services, the UAC, indexing, error reporting...lotsa crap.

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Old 4th July 2009, 00:18   #1402  |  Link
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This is good to hear, but IMO judder on start/seek is just not acceptable. Not a criticism of MadVR, I know smoothness is still work in progress. But any solution that has this issue just does not work for any system that is used by non HTPC techheads! or anyone who wants what should be a "normal" click and play solution.
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Old 4th July 2009, 00:55   #1403  |  Link
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I trimmed Vista down after installation. Turned off lots of services, the UAC, indexing, error reporting...lotsa crap.
how many processes? I can reach <20 on XP, but <30 on Vista seems impossible to achieve
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Old 4th July 2009, 04:06   #1404  |  Link
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This is good to hear, but IMO judder on start/seek is just not acceptable. Not a criticism of MadVR, I know smoothness is still work in progress. But any solution that has this issue just does not work for any system that is used by non HTPC techheads! or anyone who wants what should be a "normal" click and play solution.

What startup/seek judder?

It's perfect I tell ya.


The stability issues I mentioned are literally stability issue....madVR crashes out quite a lot. But as madshi mentions buggy about 10 times in the description for v0.10, that is to be expected.
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Old 4th July 2009, 04:10   #1405  |  Link
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how many processes? I can reach <20 on XP, but <30 on Vista seems impossible to achieve
Umm...I have 62 services.

I followed the Black Viper "Safe" settings. Turned off about 10 I guess.

And turned of the UAC, Indexing and events notification.

Less than 30? You're brave.

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Old 4th July 2009, 07:04   #1406  |  Link
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You followed advice from Black Viper? You are braver than I am. In general, it is best not to turn of services. Most of them are idle anyways and turning some of them off can cause problems.
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In general, it is best not to turn of services. Most of them are idle anyways
they can also decide to do funky stuff while you're in the middle of a movie. it's usually good to move them to single cores in low priority, and put your player in high.
and of course they use resources, never a good thing on a HTPC imho.
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Umm...I have 62 services.
well, you can reach 30, so get going
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The stability issues I mentioned are literally stability issue....madVR crashes out quite a lot.
Ah Ok. I misunderstood. Great news.
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does anyone know how madvr (currently) performs with 1080p .mkv files (x264 encodes (multithreaded); h264 & vc-1 remuxes) on nvidia's integrated graphic chips 9400 and 8300, when using ffdshow and also when (down)scaling is involved?
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Old 6th July 2009, 06:53   #1410  |  Link
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Try it and see?
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Old 6th July 2009, 22:08   #1411  |  Link
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lol, I dont have these cards/chips, why else would I be asking -.-
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There are some people out there that are pretty damn lazy
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Old 7th July 2009, 11:58   #1413  |  Link
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does anyone know how madvr (currently) performs with 1080p .mkv files (x264 encodes (multithreaded); h264 & vc-1 remuxes) on nvidia's integrated graphic chips 9400 and 8300, when using ffdshow and also when (down)scaling is involved?
I can play back 1080p bluray content on my 9400 with the CPU doing all the decoding (running at 3.7GHz to ensure smooth playback though) and it's absolutely perfect if I don't use a 3D LUT. With a 3D LUT it's usually ok, but it sometimes stutters.

I can play back PAL DVD at 24fps (reclock) upscaled to 1080p using Mitchell-Netravali without any issues as well.

I really doubt the 9400 could cope with downscaling 1080p content though. At least in the 0.10 release.



Things have been pretty quiet here lately, any word on a new version of madVR? There's still quite a few issues with 0.10
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guess madshi's taking a break atm

whats actually the difference between having a 3D LUT file and not? and does madVR not create it automatically ?
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guess madshi's taking a break atm

whats actually the difference between having a 3D LUT file and not? and does madVR not create it automatically ?
I think it only matters if you're doing custom calibration rather than using the standard HD/SD colour points.
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thunderbolt - search to get the answer from the horse's mouth, but iirc .10 has shader code to do the color space conversion, which is what 3D LUT file does. But 3D LUT is more powerful and can correct for more things, including custom screen calibrations. This is all a work in progress.
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k, thanks!
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Having problems with 0.10 now. Things used to be fine, almost perfect playback but now every couple of minutes the framerate drops badly for about 4-5 seconds.

Can't seem to bring up the OSD anymore either.
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Having problems with 0.10 now. Things used to be fine, almost perfect playback but now every couple of minutes the framerate drops badly for about 4-5 seconds.

Can't seem to bring up the OSD anymore either.

have a same problem. Nothing to do but to wait for Madshi to continue his work on madvr, hopefully soon
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Having problems with 0.10 now. Things used to be fine, almost perfect playback but now every couple of minutes the framerate drops badly for about 4-5 seconds.

Can't seem to bring up the OSD anymore either.
Same on my end. I find it helps to check the box for 'disable anti-tearing fix.'
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