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SMD: your problem is caused as yamb 1.1 tries to add the video stream twice to the .mp4!!!
you can see that by ticking "show commandline" in yamb, where you see the used cmdl, which shows that "-add ...avi" is used twice
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I guess a fix will be in the offing soon... Thanks bond Quote:
It may be wishful on my behalf but it would be great, if when importing such .divx files, all their streams (the ones that are supported) appeared in YAMB Cheers
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...And while I was in "cut and paste" mode...
Here's my suggestion for inputting "Audio" streams: - Cheers
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Ok I'll change that but :
@Bond : could you clean this thread please...(i.e move the -new/-out comments in a new thread). Thanks. |
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What a shame .mp1 and .mp2 elementary audio streams are not supported (same as, .m1v and .m2v elementary video streams)... I guess well have to wait a while longer for MP4Box.exe to incorporate it... Unless of course, you want to develop a muxing tool based around MPEG4IP As for "Private Streams", that's a little joke for bond But god only knows how many more people would use the .MP4 container if someone developed a "Private" way of muxing .AC3 audio into .MP4 Cheers
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yamb is "only" a gui for mp4box! if mp4box doesnt support it you can list as many extensions in yamb as you want, it will NOT work... the upcoming .divx format is a modified .avi, it will mean a lot of work for jeanlf to incorporate it fully, and i think he has better things to do than to support this format. especially as people can never get enough... if he officially supports .divx, they will ask for chapter, subs support and whatnot. i think before asking for support for lots of different things (.divx, .m2v, .mp2 aso...), which mean defacto more work for jeanlf (and less work on much more important things), they should use their mind and realise whats possible already in mp4box, and than you will find out what drachir posted, that you can simply mux your .m2v or .mp2 to .mpg and than import this with mp4box. is this really that hard? i get the feeling that people ask for more and more features and tools just for the sake of their own lazyness to learn and think... Quote:
what do i write that much for in this thread and the whole forum, to explain how the whole thing looks like technically??? DONT mix up raw .aac and .mp4/.m4a!!! the one is a raw format and the other one is a container. these are totally different things!!! apart from that .mp4 can also contain lots of other audio formats than aac, so whats the point of listing .mp4 as "aac audio", if you have mp2/mp3 audio maybe stored in it??? can you imagine the confusion of newbies on such files? can you imagine all the questions? whats the point? than whats the point of listing things NOONE uses, like .mp4a?? for the sake of having as much as extensions listed as possible? dont you realise how these things only lead to confusion for newbies? "what is .mp4a?" "is .mp4a something different than .mp4/.m4a"? "how can i create .mp4a?" "why does tool X dont support .mp4a?" hell... and simply because lots of people ask for ac3 support in .mp4, it doesnt mean that it makes any sense at all. the last thing i want to see in .mp4 is ac3... if you target hardware player playback, hell use .avi. no need to mess around with .mp4! sorry, that i am getting angry, but yamb had a nice and clear input format layout and than comes this proposal, i hope Kurtnoise13 will not change this...
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Guys, I need you...could you test this early version, especially the Audio part. It seems it doesn't work properly with two or more audio files. I'm checking this part now. Thanks for your feedbacks. |
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- overwrite an existing file ticking doesnt lead to that "-new" gets added to the cmdl - for the output file, the extensions doesnt get automatically added to the filename
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I get what you mean bond....
My suggestion for YAMB's "import stream" layout was following on from how it's presented in mp4UI's GUI: - I must admit I took it for granted that MP4Box.exe would be able to mux more stream types than it actually does Especially, given that it has only just recently been greatly improved I guess I am getting rather over enthusiastic! Quote:
When it comes to .MP4 container support in stand-alones, the player manufacturers have really managed to confuse the end-user by not offering a decent method of getting 6Ch AAC audio out of their players. As you know, many players only offer 2No analogue outputs (including the new high-def capable devices) and those players that have 6No analogue outputs are unable to pass/map the AAC channels correctly... And when you try and explain to people why AAC audio can't be decoded via (optical or electrical) S/P-DIF connection, this only upset them more... and drives them away from considering/using the .MP4 container Like I say, a lot of people like that idea of the .MP4 container. They like the fact that it can support chapter selection and subtitles etc... And they like using Recode2. But they are getting really confused as to why they are unable to listen to 6Ch (5.1) audio Cheers
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Hi Kurt,
As bond (and your good self) already mentioned, it does not appear to be able to mux 2No AAC streams with Mpeg4 video. It also is completely unable to mux .mp3 streams with Mpeg4 video. And when adding chapters... the application "dissapears" from the desktop! EDIT: Does MP4Box.exe support the "extraction" of Mpeg4 video from out of the .MP4 container? Quote:
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EDIT: With regard to "chapter importing".... If I input the streams in the following order YAMB muxes fine.... * Chapter file (.txt) * Mpeg4 video stream (.avi) * AAC audio stream (.aac) If I input the streams in the following order the YAMB GUI dissapears.... * Mpeg4 video stream (.avi) * AAC audio stream (.aac) * Chapter file (.txt) Cheers
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Kurtnoise13: thx for your work
uhm... about this: Quote:
Other than that it would take away development time from things that truly are important ("converting" people from AVI to MP4 is not important, no one here benefits from that, only Nero. And it certainly isn't a good idea if you are going to do it by destroying the essence of MP4). If standalone manufacturers dont create devices with proper 6 ch AAC support they should fix that and not patch it with good old AC3. |
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i dont get the point then? if the option means that an existing .mp4 should be overwritten (which is what i assume) than you have to use -new, cause if not using it the streams will get simply added to the existing .mp4 Quote:
mp4box supports the demuxing of any stream in .mp4/.3gp to raw and to .mp4/.3gp (eg extract only one track of a multitrack .mp4 to a new .mp4) and it even supports extracting mpeg-4 asp from .mp4 to .avi Quote:
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Yep... All good points Stephan...
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When I asked Keith Jack (of Sigma) in Nov 2004 about player manufacturers adding sufficient RCA/phono outputs to enable 6Ch AAC audio, this was his response: - Quote:
My point to Keith Jack was... Why did Sigma supply development kits to manufacturers (or allow them to build their own boards) without 6No RCA/phono outputs! Cheers
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player manufacturers are bringing lots of bad excuses for why they dont support something
fact is when lots of consumers request it, they will support it. if noone uses it, why waste time (aka money) supporting it
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