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Old 28th July 2018, 00:19   #51861  |  Link
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Im using it with anime content only. It gets rid of the poor motion of some 24p content without adding the soap opera effect.
I don't like the loss of motion resolution which is noticeable to me just to improve panning so I keep frame creation on low instead which is a suitable trade off.
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Old 28th July 2018, 06:57   #51862  |  Link
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I thought of overheating, but I don't think: without madVR I get no crash at all with the same room temp for weeks.
Temperature isn't the only symptom of failing hardware. It could be that the silicon is already failing in some ways that only certain workflows use.
Try using very demanding graphics benchmarking software like Furmark, or like Asmodian suggested "Heaven" or even Superposition
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Old 28th July 2018, 07:55   #51863  |  Link
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Those are really low temps for a GPU at 80% load, do you have aftermarket cooling or a model with extreme cooling? I notice you quote CPU max temps, which seem like max values you might expect given those average temps. Are you sure those are your GPU temps?

How about other GPU heavy loads, maybe Heaven?
It's the stock i7 dissipator, I used GPU-Z to read GPU temp and SpeedFan to read CPU Temp. Temporarily I have an open case, maybe this contribute to lower the temp, as the hot air goes directly towards the ceiling.
Anyway I'll try your suggestions on heaven or furmark and I'll tell you.
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silicon is already failing in some ways that only certain workflows use.
But, suppose it's true, when using madVR should be always put to stress, instead I get a BOD only let's say one time in 2 weeks (and also with very poor demanding videos like an old SD), all the other videos play fine.
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Old 28th July 2018, 08:17   #51864  |  Link
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I'm sorry, the previous AVG GPU temp was not precise because it mixed with lower temp of previous 1080 and SD videos...
Now I did one longer test only 4k and these are the results:

2160p GPU 81%: AVG=59,6 MAX=70 CPU: MAX(by eye)=64
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Old 28th July 2018, 08:41   #51865  |  Link
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After 15' furmark test, I have these stable values:
GPU 100% AVG=64,4 MAX=72
Should I continue or is this ok to say there is no HW cooling problems?
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Old 28th July 2018, 11:43   #51866  |  Link
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check the event manager to see what is causing this.

i have no clue why someone is limiting this to the GPU.
you can try the newest windows version together with the newest driver or even a fresh OS.
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Old 28th July 2018, 11:53   #51867  |  Link
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What exactly should I do in the event manager? I have never used it...
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Old 28th July 2018, 15:46   #51868  |  Link
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What exactly should I do in the event manager? I have never used it...
Event Viewer will show the BugCheck (blue screen) but also other events around the same time. Perhaps there is something else going on.
Unlikely though as that particular bugcheck should only be caused by bad hardware or bad drivers.
Have you tried other driver versions?
Unfortunately intermittent issues such as these are the hardest to diagnose when they only show up after a few weeks at a time. If you can find a temporary replacement CPU to use it will at least rule out if the GPU is at fault or not.
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Old 28th July 2018, 17:25   #51869  |  Link
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Agree with huhn, if it's crashing more often when seeking or fast-forwarding then I would look more for a software or driver issue.

Edit: maybe try a test with DXVA Checker benchmark, playback performance mode, selecting your screen definition as display definition, with many loops. That will stress the video decode block (and the GPU a little bit)
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Old 28th July 2018, 19:35   #51870  |  Link
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So, for now I looked at "Reliability Monitor"
and I found this "Windows" Hardware error:

Code:
Nome evento problema:	LiveKernelEvent
Codice:	141
Parametro 1:	ffffac0fd3ead4a0
Parametro 2:	fffff8084e7d57e0
Parametro 3:	0
Parametro 4:	395c
Versione sistema operativo:	10_0_17134
Service Pack:	0_0
Prodotto:	256_1
Versione SO:	10.0.17134.2.0.0.256.48
ID impostazioni locali:	1040
Followed by 9x DesktopWindowManager errors:

Code:
Origine
Desktop Window Manager

Riepilogo
Ha smesso di funzionare
Descrizione
Percorso dell'applicazione che ha generato l'errore:	C:\Windows\System32\dwm.exe

Firma del problema
Nome evento problema:	APPCRASH
Nome applicazione:	dwm.exe
Versione applicazione:	10.0.17134.1
Timestamp applicazione:	f5178e97
Nome modulo con errori:	d2d1.dll
Versione modulo con errori:	10.0.17134.112
Timestamp modulo con errori:	65837bda
Codice eccezione:	c0000005
Offset eccezione:	00000000000eaa44
Versione SO:	10.0.17134.2.0.0.256.48
ID impostazioni locali:	1040
Informazioni aggiuntive 1:	da31
Ulteriori informazioni 2:	da311bbfa44fbd893fa24c18ea3cb53a
Ulteriori informazioni 3:	7b74
Ulteriori informazioni 4:	7b743590ad6b9157ad1f1e27362006d9

Ulteriori informazioni sul problema
ID bucket:	2e851f1fecb62a46778a1fa4eaa778a3 (1696203002830354595)"


Timestamp applicazione:	f5178e97
Nome modulo con errori:	d2d1.dll
Versione modulo con errori:	10.0.17134.112
Timestamp modulo con errori:	65837bda
Codice eccezione:	c0000005
Offset eccezione:	00000000000ea0fc
Versione SO:	10.0.17134.2.0.0.256.48
ID impostazioni locali:	1040
Informazioni aggiuntive 1:	0a51
Ulteriori informazioni 2:	0a51e9079ac7b4ef18dd6a88476bbc68
Ulteriori informazioni 3:	2acd
Ulteriori informazioni 4:	2acd14112c3488803847dde3fd4c4488

Ulteriori informazioni sul problema
ID bucket:	bd03157bd87841582a40fa780bfe0201 (1891787236999823873)
and so on.

Then Explorer Crash, always on d2d1.dll,
then another Hardware Error "Windows":

Code:
Nome evento problema:	LiveKernelEvent
Codice:	141
Parametro 1:	ffffac0fd3ead4a0
Parametro 2:	fffff8084e7d57e0
Parametro 3:	0
Parametro 4:	395c
Versione sistema operativo:	10_0_17134
Service Pack:	0_0
Prodotto:	256_1
Versione SO:	10.0.17134.2.0.0.256.48
ID impostazioni locali:	1040
Then again Explorer.exe stop working:

Code:
Nome evento problema:	APPCRASH
Nome applicazione:	explorer.exe
Versione applicazione:	10.0.17134.165
Timestamp applicazione:	4031a9f8
Nome modulo con errori:	twinui.pcshell.dll
Versione modulo con errori:	10.0.17134.165
Timestamp modulo con errori:	350701a7
Codice eccezione:	80270233
Offset eccezione:	0000000000306063
Versione SO:	10.0.17134.2.0.0.256.48
ID impostazioni locali:	1040
Informazioni aggiuntive 1:	5c88
Ulteriori informazioni 2:	5c880f455e72d48ff2d252df01593dd2
Ulteriori informazioni 3:	7ddc
Ulteriori informazioni 4:	7ddc2dbaaa8270b132e584817378c7fd

Ulteriori informazioni sul problema
ID bucket:	5f78eab1a62fdc63368baa245de5a632 (1624579163768071730)
Last: Wacom tablet stopped working, and overall crash (I don't remember if here I got also BSOD: sometimes I got it, sometimes I got a general freeze with black screen frozen, so I must press power button to force the restart).

I don't know if this can be useful to detect the problem...
Now, I'll look to System Events and I'll tell you what I find.
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Old 28th July 2018, 20:15   #51871  |  Link
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So, in the Events of the last 3 months, I found out 9 critical errors, but only one BSOD with the hex code 119 Video_scheduler as I wrote before.
And I know of this BSOD in this date because I did the pic of it , I'll post the log on the next post.

Anyway, the non-BSOD event, the same I found in Reliability Monitor, starts with:
the igfx driver stops working:
Code:
 - Provider 

   [ Name]  Display 
 
  - EventID 4101 

   [ Qualifiers]  0 
 
   Level 3 
 
   Task 0 
 
   Keywords 0x80000000000000 
 
  - TimeCreated 

   [ SystemTime]  2018-07-15T20:14:39.635676800Z 
 
   EventRecordID 10355 
 
   Channel System



Followed by 17x Warnings Win32k 263 err code, of "pointing device", not having info on connected monitor.
Code:
Provider 

   [ Name]  Win32k 
 
  - EventID 263 

   [ Qualifiers]  32768 
 
   Level 3 
 
   Task 0 
 
   Keywords 0x80000000000000 
 
  - TimeCreated 

   [ SystemTime]  2018-07-15T20:14:51.254358500Z 
 
   EventRecordID 10356 
 
   Channel System
Then a warning not been able to start again the video driver.

Code:
Provider 

   [ Name]  Display 
 
  - EventID 4115 

   [ Qualifiers]  0 
 
   Level 3 
 
   Task 0 
 
   Keywords 0x80000000000000 
 
  - TimeCreated 

   [ SystemTime]  2018-07-15T20:14:55.891991800Z 
 
   EventRecordID 10373 
 
   Channel System

Then 12x Error of Service Control manager, 7031 Err code,
service OneSyncSvc_2f064 blocked abruptely, reboot it in 10000ms.

Code:
Provider 

   [ Name]  Service Control Manager 
   [ Guid]  {555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4} 
   [ EventSourceName]  Service Control Manager 
 
  - EventID 7031 

   [ Qualifiers]  49152 
 
   Version 0 
 
   Level 2 
 
   Task 0 
 
   Opcode 0 
 
   Keywords 0x8080000000000000 
 
  - TimeCreated 

   [ SystemTime]  2018-07-15T20:15:05.786066400Z 
 
   EventRecordID 10375 
 
   Correlation 
 
  - Execution 

   [ ProcessID]  988 
   [ ThreadID]  18112 
 
   Channel System 
   
 
 EventData 

  param1 OneSyncSvc_2f064 
  param2 1 
  param3 10000 
  param4 1 
  param5 Riavvia il servizio 
   4F006E006500530079006E0063005300760063005F00320066003000360034000000
Then:
Quote:
PimIndexMaintenanceSvc_2f064
UnistoreSvc_2f064
UserDataSvc_2f064
CDPUserSvc_2f064
WpnUserService_2f064
followed by timeout of the services blocked that don't reboot.

and finally... the crash-freezing.
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Old 28th July 2018, 20:16   #51872  |  Link
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Instead the BSOD one has these:

3x Warning Kernel-PnP:
Code:
cannot load driver \Driver\VMSP for the device ROOT\VMS_VSMP\0000 
then for ROOT\VMS_VSMP\0001 and ROOT\VMS_VSMP\0002
Code:
Provider 

   [ Name]  Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-PnP 
   [ Guid]  {9C205A39-1250-487D-ABD7-E831C6290539} 
 
   EventID 219 
 
   Version 0 
 
   Level 3 
 
   Task 212 
 
   Opcode 0 
 
   Keywords 0x8000000000000000 
 
  - TimeCreated 

   [ SystemTime]  2018-06-15T11:57:47.536750800Z 
 
   EventRecordID 6018 
 
   Correlation 
 
  - Execution 

   [ ProcessID]  4 
   [ ThreadID]  420 
 
   Channel System 
 
 
  - Security 

   [ UserID]  S-1-5-18 
 

- EventData 

  DriverNameLength 18 
  DriverName ROOT\VMS_VSMP\0000 
  Status 3221226092 
  FailureNameLength 12 
  FailureName \Driver\VMSP 
  Version 0

Then the Warning of pointing device not knows the monitor,

then an error Hyper-V-VmSwitch:
Failed to get Device VlanID Regkey for Physical NIC /DEVICE/{3E39B7FB-8071-4D58-A3CE-E6F29F1786E6}. vSwitch will be created on this Physical NIC without VlanID being inherited by HostVNic. Status = can't find object name.

Then another Warning of pointing device not knows the monitor,

Then again 4x Errors Hyper-V-VmSwitch:
-) The operation 'Get Info' failed on nic 37044452-FBC8-4E5B-B8BD-D5B3060C51F5 (Friendly Name: ). Status = Parametro non valido passato ad un servizio o ad una funzione..
-) The operation 'Get Info' failed on nic 37044452-FBC8-4E5B-B8BD-D5B3060C51F5 (Friendly Name: ). Status = Parametro non valido passato ad un servizio o ad una funzione..
-) Failed to connect NIC 37044452-FBC8-4E5B-B8BD-D5B3060C51F5 (Friendly Name: Opzione predefi) to port (Friendly Name: ) on switch C08CB7B8-9B3C-408E-8E30-5E16A3AEB444 (Friendly Name: Opzione predefinita), status = Impossibile trovare il nome dell'oggetto..
-) Failed to enable miniport NIC 37044452-FBC8-4E5B-B8BD-D5B3060C51F5 (Friendly Name: Opzione predefi), status = Impossibile trovare il nome dell'oggetto..

And finally the BugCheck:
Il computer stato riavviato da un controllo errori. Controllo errori: 0x00000119 (0x0000000000100000, 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000, 0xffffe00a4b512000).
I dettagli sono stati salvati in: C:\WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP. ID segnalazione: 77ea78e5-3300-41b2-887c-6fef0cb21c72.
Sadly I have not looked at the memory.dmp and I don't find it now...

So, that's all, let me know if you have some ideas or request some more details of these events and I'll post them.
Thank you a lot fot the patience and the support, I'm really upset with these crashes that don't let me use madVR!
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Old 28th July 2018, 20:17   #51873  |  Link
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Unlikely though as that particular bugcheck should only be caused by bad hardware or bad drivers.
Have you tried other driver versions?
Unfortunately intermittent issues such as these are the hardest to diagnose when they only show up after a few weeks at a time. If you can find a temporary replacement CPU to use it will at least rule out if the GPU is at fault or not.
No, I haven't tried any other drivers apart W10 automatic updates.
I cannot use another CPU...
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Old 28th July 2018, 20:19   #51874  |  Link
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I'll try an intense DXVA checker, but I see it does not use madVR as a renderer, so I think it will not cause anything wrong...
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Old 28th July 2018, 20:20   #51875  |  Link
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Anyone noticed that Nvidia Control Panel when using custom resolution timming by Madvr you only get 8bits output? Or am I don't something wrong here?

The 10 and 12bpc option is gone.

Even the OSD showing D3D11 Windowed full screen (10bits).

EDIT: Nevermind, you have to enable 12bits before going into custom timming.

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Old 28th July 2018, 21:08   #51876  |  Link
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Did the DXVA checker: nothing wrong.
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Old 28th July 2018, 22:54   #51877  |  Link
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I believe this is not directly the fault of madVR. Please create a new thread, maybe in this sub-forum, to keep this thread on topic.

Also, try installing the newest drivers for your GPU.
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Old 29th July 2018, 00:04   #51878  |  Link
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Well, it worked for 5 minutes and suddenly it's gone.

How do you guys get 12bpc with custom timing?
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No, I haven't tried any other drivers apart W10 automatic updates.
I cannot use another CPU...
The graphics drivers from Intel for your CPU/GPU are what you need (found on intel.com in the Downloads section). The generic Windows drivers are old and far less capable.
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How do you guys get 12bpc with custom timing?
I don't think anyone has gotten it to work through a reboot.
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