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Old 11th January 2020, 00:33   #18201  |  Link
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You should upload sample of original source file...

Ps. I suspect that problem is related with variable FPS in original video.
Awesome ... where can I upload it ?

Thanks for your time ... DVD's are so ancient (compared to Bluray, 4/8k) that it's hardly worth fixing RipBot264 to deal with every issue in the old world.
As it is ... it runs beautifully, is largely bullet-proof and has most of the options anybody would want or need.

If windows ran as well as this app, nobody would have any interest in Linux ... or even Unix for that matter.


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Old 11th January 2020, 03:24   #18203  |  Link
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Awesome ... uploaded two 100mb chunks ... from beginning and middle somewhere.


1) https://www.mediafire.com/file/wpg4s...mb%29.mkv/file
2) https://www.mediafire.com/file/nt1c9...mb%29.mkv/file


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Awesome ... uploaded two 100mb chunks ... from beginning and middle somewhere.


1) https://www.mediafire.com/file/wpg4s...mb%29.mkv/file
2) https://www.mediafire.com/file/nt1c9...mb%29.mkv/file


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File has been badly muxed! FPS in container is 2x higher than FPS in video stream.



Solution. Remux mkv in MKVToolnix and specify correct fps for container.

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Is there a way to have Ripbot not generate chapter markers? I would like no chapter information at all if possible.
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Old 11th January 2020, 17:41   #18206  |  Link
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Is there a way to have Ripbot not generate chapter markers? I would like no chapter information at all if possible.
Not sure if there's a global setting, but in case of individual jobs, you quickly edit out the stuff you don't need in chapters.txt in the job's folder (right click a job -> Open Job Folder).
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File has been badly muxed! FPS in container is 2x higher than FPS in video stream.

Solution. Remux mkv in MKVToolnix and specify correct fps for container.
My bad, I muxed the original VOB segments into a single file.
Remuxed to 29.97 fps (30000/1001), encoded with the restore->23.976 fps but ... unfortunately, it didn't remove the interlace.

So, I did a double encode test on the first 100mb chunk and uploaded the results:
1) Decimate Restore -> 23,976 fps (20.5 mb) . (Badly interlaced)
2) Deinterlace BFF -> 29.97 (18 mb) . (The interlace is very nicely gone)

Quite frankly, the BFF->29 fps conversion is small enough ... but I'm still keen to Restore it downto 24 fps aswell.
Also, I usually encode semi-anomorphically (ie non 1:1 pixel aspect ratio) with slightly elastic width and/or height,
letting MKV signal and display the correct aspect ratio.
I chose Custom [x,xx:1] but the picture seems a little bit out of shape.


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C:\_ TO DO\Pavarotti>"C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\ffmpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -loglevel panic -i "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\job3.avs" -strict -1 -f yuv4mpegpipe - | "C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\tools\x264\x264_x64.exe" --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709 --opencl --opencl-device 0 --opencl-clbin "C:\Users\RolyPoly\AppData\Local\Temp\x264_lookahead.clbin" --crf 22 --fps 30000/1001 --force-cfr --min-keyint 30 --keyint 300 --frames 3138 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --b-pyramid none --stdin y4m --output "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\video.264" -
y4m [info]: 672x512p 1:1 @ 30000/1001 fps (cfr)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2
x264 [info]: OpenCL acceleration enabled with NVIDIA Corporation GeForce GT 710
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0, 4:2:0, 8-bit
...
encoded 3138 frames, 12.87 fps, 1251.79 kb/s

C:\_ TO DO\Pavarotti>"C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\_ TO DO\Pavarotti\Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p-OrigVOBtest crf22 29fps.mkv" --compression 0:none --title "Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p-OrigVOBtest crf22 29fps" --default-duration 0:30000/1001fps "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\video.264" --compression 0:none --language 0:eng --aac-is-sbr 0:1 "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\Encoded_Audio_1.aac"
mkvmerge v41.0.0 ('Smarra') 64-bit

'C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\video.264': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AVC/H.264'.

'C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\Encoded_Audio_1.aac': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AAC'.

'C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\video.264' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AVC/H.264 (unframed)'.
'C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\Encoded_Audio_1.aac' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AAC'.
The file 'C:\_ TO DO\Pavarotti\Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p-OrigVOBtest crf22 29fps.mkv' has been opened for writing.
'C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\video.264' track 0: Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 672/512.

The cue entries (the index) are being written...
Multiplexing took 0 seconds.
-------------------------

Elapsed Time: 00h:04m:09s

Job AVS
Code:
#MT
Import("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\Scripts\MTmodes.avs")
#PREFETCH_LIMIT=4

#VideoSource
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\lsmash\LSMASHSource.dll")
video=LWLibavVideoSource("C:\_ TO DO\Pavarotti\Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p-OrigVOBtest.mkv",cachefile="C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job3\Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p-OrigVOBtest.mkv.lwi",prefer_hw=3)
#Deinterlace
Loadplugin("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\RgTools\RgTools.dll")
Loadplugin("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\nnedi3\nnedi3.dll")
Loadplugin("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\masktools\masktools2.dll")
Loadplugin("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\mvtools\mvtools2.dll")
LoadCplugin("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\Yadif\Yadif.dll")
Import("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\Scripts\QTGMC.avs")
video=AssumeBFF(video).QTGMC(Preset="Medium",FPSDivisor=2)

#Decimate

#Crop
video=Crop(video,10,2,-10,-2)

#Resize
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (Green)\RipBot264v1.25.0\Tools\AviSynth plugins\Plugins_JPSDR\Plugins_JPSDR.dll")
video=Spline36ResizeMT(video,672,512)

MediaInfo (After remux)
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General
Unique ID : 143339289999503252948188653753443398000 (0x6BD624A101012CBB7C8CEDDACA59B170)
Complete name : C:\_ TO DO\Pavarotti\Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p VOB.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 3.94 GiB
Duration : 1 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 8 013 kb/s
Movie name : Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p
Encoded date : UTC 2020-01-11 16:16:05
Writing application : mkvmerge v41.0.0 ('Smarra') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.9 + libmatroska v1.5.2

Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Format settings, picture structure : Frame
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration : 1 h 10 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 6 500 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3

Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.628
Time code of first frame : 10:00:00:00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed : Open
GOP, Open/Closed of first frame : Closed
Stream size : 3.19 GiB (81%)
Title : Pavarotti The Duets (2008) 430p
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No


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Old 12th January 2020, 11:32   #18208  |  Link
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Concert was originally recorded in 29.97 FPS interlaced. Converting to 23.976fps makes zero sense.
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Old 13th January 2020, 02:21   #18209  |  Link
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Concert was originally recorded in 29.97 FPS interlaced. Converting to 23.976fps makes zero sense.
Lol ... too true ... I hate NTSC (Too little resolution, too many fps)
The Pavarotti Duets (2008) compilation was also released on PAL in 25 fps but the original footage was probably shot at 24 fps.

Most pre-digital movies were filmed at 24 fps and sped-up for PAL 25 fps ... ie the movie actually runs 4% faster and
sound/voices are at a higher pitch compared to the original.
I use to rewind those PAL movies back to 24fps [not ChangeFps(24) which maintains duration]. Bluray has pretty much sorted that out.
Rewound movies look and sound more natural (no helium voices).

Many new movies/documentaries are now shot at 30 fps but I still like to take some of them back to
24fps unless they benefit from the higher framerate (eg fast action movies).
8k supports 120 fps (240 for VR) but the higher framerate benefits to end-user seem less obvious than the higher resolution and 12-bit color.

That said, I'm happy with Pavarotti (The Duets) at NTSC 29fps (RipBot makes it happen) ... but it's nice to experiment and push the boundaries.

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But original frame rate is 59.94 not 29.97.
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But original frame rate is 59.94 not 29.97.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're getting confused about this...

I have been "watching" this, and the only instance of it having 59.94 was on the original 100mb sample's, which is wrong.

Wouldn't it depend on how the samples were compiled, for the fps to change.

The "original" VOB's are as so:-

Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 6 500 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy

I've actually got this DVD.
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Old 13th January 2020, 13:57   #18212  |  Link
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How long have you waited?
It always looks like it's frozen but after 10-15 mins you should be able to continue. Has been this way since 1.24.1
Tested with a 33 second dv avi and it never stops Gathering information. Left for 20 minutes.

Theres no cpu (i7 9700K) activity on the RipBot thread, and no disk activity either.

It's not crashed as I can Abort and close it fine.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're getting confused about this...

I have been "watching" this, and the only instance of it having 59.94 was on the original 100mb sample's, which is wrong.

Wouldn't it depend on how the samples were compiled, for the fps to change.

The "original" VOB's are as so:-

Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 6 500 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy

I've actually got this DVD.
No I'm right. Each Field is unique which means that after deinterlacing you obtain 59.94 progressive FPS. Live concerts were often recorded like that.
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Does KNLMeansCL at Mono Noise 0 provide any noise reduction?

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MPC-HC preview error

So "boss",

I have many, many old TV recordings that I thought I might start running thru RB, so I loaded one, and as I need to the get the aspect ratio correct, I clicked on "preview", and it came up with this error:-

https://www.mediafire.com/view/8z3f8...error.jpg/file

If I take out the audio track, then that error also goes away, but then MPC just show's a black screen.

What would you suggest ??
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No I'm right. Each Field is unique which means that after deinterlacing you obtain 59.94 progressive FPS. Live concerts were often recorded like that.
And I know I'm not going to win this argument, but it's 29.97 interlaced (as per original vobs), but then you're saying it's 59.94 deinterlaced.

If it plays OK in it's original format, why would you want/need to deinterlace it ??

It's also not just one long concert, it's a compilation of many occasions where he's sung with other famous singers.
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Does KNLMeansCL at Mono Noise 0 provide any noise reduction?
No...
The question wasn't nearly as stupid as it may have sounded. A filter could provide a set of default compression/reduction techniques even at its lowest setting, and the reason I asked it is because Ripbot's GUI sets the filter's Mono Noise value to 0 by default. You may want to provide some sort of a "disabled" visual hint (gray it out, don't allow values lower than 1, put an exclamation mark icon next to the zero, or just mention it in a tooltip) for those who may think that they'll be running a denoise filter on its lowest setting. I asked to confirm my assumption. A lot of people won't.

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So "boss",

I have many, many old TV recordings that I thought I might start running thru RB, so I loaded one, and as I need to the get the aspect ratio correct, I clicked on "preview", and it came up with this error:-

https://www.mediafire.com/view/8z3f8...error.jpg/file

If I take out the audio track, then that error also goes away, but then MPC just show's a black screen.

What would you suggest ??
In mpc-hc enable that option


I made a mistake and I forgot to leave that one option enabled.
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DVD Voyager and Deep Space 9

So I have these shows on DVD and they've been turned into individual episodes using MakeMKV. These show use variable frame rate during the show and they will switch between 24 to 30 fps. Reading online there are several workarounds to get these shows encoded correctly, mostly using Handbrake and I was planning to use Handbrake for these.

My thinking is the whole thing should be converted to 120 fps and then downed to 24fps.

Atak, what your thoughts regarding these strange encodings. From what I remember, RipBot does not do variable frame rate.

Mediainfo:
Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration : 1 h 30 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 280 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 24.121 FPS
Original frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.633
Time code of first frame : 00:59:58;04
Time code source : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed : Open
GOP, Open/Closed of first frame : Closed
Stream size : 3.35 GiB (89%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601
Original source medium : DVD-Video
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