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I didn't bring the conversation regarding new manufacturing process to mock Intel being second to Samsung and TSMC.
The inability to go to 10nm and the "nm war" are irrelevant to my discussion. I mentioned the fact that Intel needs a new process to bring a new architecture, because it has stuck to its latest Skylake's architecture since 2015. So, the problem of manufacturing process is huge for Intel not because it could loose the "nm war" but because it needs a new process to bring a new architecture, like all CPU companies actually, but with one little difference. Intel has its own fabs and can't give their CPUs to GloFo, Samsung, TSMC etc. If they can't fix the broken 10nm process they can't deliver a new CPU architecture. It's as simple as that!
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Do you know secret stuff about their next architecture that says they absolutely need a newer process to introduce it?
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The questions you asked me are like:
"Why 1+1 equals 2 ? "
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According to techpowerup.com VEGA supports these:
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We have to wait for Navi or maybe a VEGA refresh for mainstream, like VEGA 11, could probably have VP9 hardware decoding inside.
AMD is a little (?) slow adopting non mainstream formats (actually the last one of the big three)
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I have just joined this forum to thank edwdevel for detailed review of playback capabilities of gt 1030. I bought it instead of 1050 and I am happy with my purchase. 1050/1050ti ti is very expensive here. And I am not into gaming. Plays even 8k smoothly with W10 Media player. But so far I am not able to use Nvenc or Cuda successfully in Mediacoder,Staxrip and any video converter. I do not know if it is due to hardware limitation or driver problem.
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What is your OS and drivers ?
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It looks like the 1030 doesn't have NVENC, either in hardware or they disabled it through the drivers/BIOS. The 1030 is absent from this page too: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus even though they just may have forgotten to update it. If you run GPU-Z, is the CUDA box in the Computing section checked?
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I've tested 4K Netflix streaming on GT1030 and it does not work, as expected. Test setup:
Hardware: MSI GeForce GT 1030-2GH-OC OS: Windows 10 Pro, Creators Update, version 1703, build 15063.540 Drivers: 384.94 WHQL and 385.28 WHQL TV: Sony 850C, directly connected to HDMI, nVidia Control Panel shows that HDCP is enabled App: Latest Netflix app from Microsoft Store Output mode: 3840x2160@60Hz, RGB, 8bpp Can anybody with 1050 and better confirm that it works without Insider Preview version of Windows and "special" driver? |
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This thread by someone who got it to work on a Windows 10 Public Release build and driver 384.76 shows it's still flaky: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comm...lix_4k_without
AFAIK NVIDIA still hasn't updated their Knowledge Base to mark that feature as generally available, so no guarantee yet that it works with public W10 builds and/or public release drivers. Maybe try the specific driver v384.76 and make sure to follow all the guidelines in that thread? Oh, and btw: from those screenshots, Netflix uses ~450 MB buffer at 4K, which is massive (= 220 seconds, YouTube only uses ~20-25 secs), and it wouldn't surprise me if the Microsoft DRM forced all the buffer to be kept in VRAM, which could explain the VRAM requirements.
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If someone buys a VEGA 56/64 card, please put a DXVA Checker screenshot here.
Or even if someone finds one posted anywhere on the Net.
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CPU - Pentium G3220 I saw in some Linux forums that nvenc works in Ubuntu. If it is indeed so, then nvidia disabled it in drivers. Otherwise the hardware is simply not there like previous GT cards. I will regret my decision to not buy a 1050 ti if hardware is absent. At least I have Ubuntu to try, but I don't know how to test nvenc in Linux. |
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In GPU-Z it says CUDA 6.1 supported. Also the card runs at max at PCI -E 3.0 x4 only(written on the box). http://imgur.com/a/sGY5w Last edited by gagmani; 20th August 2017 at 15:23. |
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I can't believe they just removed the NVENC HW from GP108 chip, it is easier for them to disable it, what a pitty. There is a direct question asked in devtalk Nvidia forum, I don't know if it was you. I'm not sure if Nvidia replies officially, but the same question asked before in devtalk Nvidia forum regarding GT 1030, the reply was that NVENC is not supported by that card.
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Is here some mpv user with a GT 1030? I briefly had a chance to play around with a 1030 and noticed that hardware decoding wasn't working for VP9 10 bit, while it was working with LAV Filters.
Could someone please report this for mpv at Github with a logfile like described there? Edit: GTX 1050 would likely show the same behavior. |
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For playback? Or encoding? For playback, with Copy-Back the bus load would be around 80% with 2160p60 10 bit, needs testing. Of course now you have the option to use D3D11VA Native, with which the PCI Express interface is barely loaded at all.
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and one day it died. I see your post, and I decided to buy gt 1030. (my budget is on low, and I read we could use two different nvidia GPU in one system for additional multiple display ) yes thanks for your review. I'm happy gt 1030 could play 4k60fps 5k60fps even hevc smoothly . also I could play popular pc games with decent quality. but later I'm a little bit dissapointed after I Found if gt 1030 not support for NVDIA surround and sadly gt 1030 can't play 8k 60fps video, it capped at 8k @ 24fps. but it doesn't matter because for this time 4k60fps is enough for me overall gt 1030 is not bad choice. |
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