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5th January 2009, 20:47 | #7702 | Link |
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Suggestions for audio conversion options?
I'm trying to convert my HD-DVDs to something that is good for the PS3. I've been using EAC3TO to demux the VC-1 and demux the audio and convert to AC3 5.1 @ 640kbps. The final step is to convert the VC-1 to AVC and mux these into an M2TS.
I thought all was good until I tried watching a converted copy of Hot Fuzz. The video looks good and the audio is all there and in sync but I'm hearing some weirdness in the balance between the channels... dialog too quiet and fronts/sides too strong. I keep trying to turn up the volume to hear the dialog and then panic looking for the remote when an explosion happens. Below is a listing from the filter test: Code:
eac3to v2.84 command line: "E:\Video_Encoding\eac3to\eac3to.exe" -test ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7) works fine ArcSoft DTS Decoder (1.1.0.0) works fine Sonic Audio Decoder (2.87.0.0) doesn't seem to be installed Haali Matroska Muxer (2008-03-29) is up to date Nero AAC Encoder (1.1.34.2) is installed There's a new version (1.3.3.0) available http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nerodigital-nero-aac-codec.php Surcode DTS Encoder (1.0.23.0) is installed MkvToolnix (2.4.1.0, beta 2008-12-07) is installed Here is an example of what I've been doing... in this case I'm only processing the audio and I experimented with not removing the dialog normalization. It didn't seem to help. I'd really appreciate any input the more experienced users out there might be able to offer! Many thanx to Madshi too... Code:
eac3to v2.84 command line: "E:\eac3to.exe" "E:\FEATURE_1.EVO"+"E:\FEATURE_2.EVO" 4: "E:\movie.ac3" -640 -keepDialnorm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EVO, 1 video track, 6 audio tracks, 7 subtitle tracks, 2:00:52 "Main Movie" 1: Joined EVO file 2: Chapters, 28 chapters with names 3: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags 4: E-AC3 EX, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 133ms 5: E-AC3 EX, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 133ms 6: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 133ms "Feature Commentary w/ Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright" 7: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 133ms "Feature Commentary w/ Sandford Police Service" 8: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 133ms "Feature Commentary w/ Sandford Village People" 9: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, 133ms "Feature Commentary w/ The Real Fuzz" 10: Subtitle, English, "SDH" 11: Subtitle, French 12: Subtitle 13: Subtitle 14: Subtitle 15: Subtitle 16: Subtitle, English, "Fuzz-O-Meter: Trivia Track" [a04] Extracting audio track number 4... [a04] Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)... [a04] DirectShow reports 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz [a04] Applying RAW/PCM delay... [a04] Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften... [a04] Creating file "E:\movie.ac3"... Video track 3 contains 173880 frames. eac3to processing took 15 minutes, 54 seconds. Done. Last edited by kartman_canada; 5th January 2009 at 22:50. |
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Your command line are ok and -keepDialnorm don't help. This is the original sound. By default many players apply a 'Dynamic Range Compression' than reduce the differences between low and high volume values (the quality is also reduced). If you want this effect the receivers have a 'Night Mode' to use. EDIT: @Nullity, the DialNorm value lower the volume of all channels not only center channel.
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command line: "E:\eac3to.exe" "E:\FEATURE_1.EVO"+"E:\FEATURE_2.EVO" 4: "E:\movie.ac3" -640 Is there anything else that might cause the level of the center to be reduced (or the other channels to be boosted)? It seems wrong but I guess that I could look to tweak the AC3 before muxing... Any other comments or suggestions? |
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6th January 2009, 14:19 | #7707 | Link |
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I think that that was already asked but could it be possible to convert h264-dts-movie.mkv to h264-ac3-movie.mkv or just video-with-dts-movie.mkv to audio.ac3. I know that reading mkv is not the same as writing but it could be very interesting.
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Mashi, found a bug in v2.87 with a BD, wrong play duration is displayed.
O:\bd\2>eac3to h: 1) 00021.mpls, 00005.m2ts+00006.m2ts, 1:53:44 - VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) - DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz - DTS, English, multi-channel, 48khz - RAW/PCM, German, multi-channel, 48khz - RAW/PCM, English, multi-channel, 48khz 2) 00006.mpls, 00006.m2ts, 1:53:39 - VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) - DTS Master Audio, German, multi-channel, 48khz - DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz - RAW/PCM, German, multi-channel, 48khz - RAW/PCM, English, multi-channel, 48khz 3) 00014.mpls, 00014.m2ts, 0:21:15 - MPEG2, 480i60 /1.001 (16:9) - DTS, English, stereo, 48khz 4) 00011.mpls, 00011.m2ts, 0:20:40 - MPEG2, 480i60 /1.001 (16:9) - DTS, English, stereo, 48khz O:\bd\2>eac3to h: 1) M2TS, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 0:00:05 1: Chapters, 22 chapters 2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) 3: DTS, German, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz 4: DTS, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz 5: RAW/PCM, German, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz 6: RAW/PCM, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz 7: Subtitle (PGS), German 8: Subtitle (PGS), German Here the duration is now just 5 sec - seems this is the time for 00005.m2ts file which just displays "Senator"? O:\bd\2>eac3to h: 2) M2TS, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:53:39 1: Chapters, 22 chapters 2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) 3: DTS Master Audio, German, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz (core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz) 4: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz (core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz) 5: RAW/PCM, German, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz 6: RAW/PCM, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz 7: Subtitle (PGS), German 8: Subtitle (PGS), German Here the time is correct... |
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Could you please zip the "CLIPINF" and "PLAYLIST" folders and upload them? Should be just a few KBs. Thanks! |
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7th January 2009, 16:02 | #7711 | Link |
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@madshi
Thanks for the answer. I already do that. I use a DLNA media server for the PS3 that can in real time send mkv remuxed to ts or m2ts. The server can transcode DTS to ac3 in real time during muxing as the PS3 does not handle DTS via streaming. This is the only server i know that can do this and do not loose original mkv quality. But i prefer the sound quality of eac3to compared to the one used in this server (ffmpeg). The writer told me that he could use eac3to if eac3to could be able to handle mkv or pipes as input/output. Do you do some check on existing files before running ? Can eac3to work with named pipes ? |
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eac3to seems not to strip zero bytes from truehd->flac anymore:
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eac3to v2.87 command line: eac3to test 1) 3: test.flac ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M2TS, 1 video track, 8 audio tracks, 18 subtitle tracks, 0:09:34 1: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) 2: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB 3: TrueHD/AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB (embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB) -snip- [a03] Extracting audio track number 3... [a03] Extracting TrueHD stream... [a03] Removing TrueHD dialog normalization... [a03] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg... [a03] Encoding FLAC with libFlac... [a03] Creating file "test.flac"... [a03] [libav] End of stream indicated [a03] [libav] Lossless check failed - expected 0, calculated fe [a03] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits. Video track 1 contains 13762 frames. eac3to processing took 1 minute, 55 seconds. Done. command line: eac3to test.flac test.wav ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FLAC, 5.1 channels, 0:09:34, 16/24 bits, 2034kbps, 48khz Decoding FLAC... Stripping zero bytes... Writing WAV... Creating file "test.wav"... The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits. eac3to processing took 13 seconds. Done. command line: eac3to test.wav test.flac ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WAV, 5.1 channels, 0:09:34, 16 bits, 4608kbps, 48khz Reading WAV... Encoding FLAC with libFlac... Creating file "test.flac"... The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits. eac3to processing took 29 seconds. Done. eac3to test.flac FLAC, 5.1 channels, 0:09:34, 16 bits, 2033kbps, 48khz |
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eac3to v2.87 command line: D:\PROGRAMS\AUDIO\EAC3TO\eac3to.EXE 5e.ac3 j:5e.wav ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AC3, 2.0 channels, 0:28:46, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB The Nero decoder doesn't seem to work, will use libav instead. Removing AC3 dialog normalization... Decoding with libav/ffmpeg... Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits... Writing WAV... Creating file "j5e.wav"... eac3to processing took 20 seconds. Done. And second problem - "sound forge 8" can't open stereo wav-files, generated by "eac3to". Headers for 16-bit wav-files: sforge: Code:
0000000000: 52 49 46 46 24 C8 C0 13 │ 57 41 56 45 66 6D 74 20 RIFF$ИА‼WAVEfmt 0000000010: 10 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 │ 80 BB 00 00 00 EE 02 00 ► ☺ ☻ _> о☻ 0000000020: 04 00 10 00 64 61 74 61 │ 00 C8 C0 13 01 00 00 00 ♦ ► data ИА‼☺ Code:
0000000000: 52 49 46 46 3C C8 C0 13 │ 57 41 56 45 66 6D 74 20 RIFF<ИА‼WAVEfmt 0000000010: 28 00 00 00 FE FF 02 00 │ 80 BB 00 00 00 EE 02 00 ( юя☻ _> о☻ 0000000020: 04 00 10 00 16 00 10 00 │ 03 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ♦ ► ■ ► ♥ ☺ 0000000030: 00 00 10 00 80 00 00 AA │ 00 38 9B 71 64 61 74 61 ► _ Є 8>qdata Code:
0000000000: 52 49 46 46 24 64 E0 09 │ 57 41 56 45 66 6D 74 20 RIFF$dа○WAVEfmt 0000000010: 10 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 │ 80 BB 00 00 00 77 01 00 ► ☺ ☺ _> w☺ 0000000020: 02 00 10 00 64 61 74 61 │ 00 64 E0 09 01 00 00 00 ☻ ► data dа○☺ |
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About the wav headers: v2.57 ... * parameter "-extensible" is no longer supported (it's default now) * new parameter "-simple" can be used to disable the "-extensible" wav header I obtain also mono with WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE headers.
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Can this switch be mentioned on the first page, as like as all other yet unmentioned switches? I forgot in time the switch, with which I can get float-wav. Can somebody please remind me? If I ain't wrong about its existing. Why? Another problem - "eac3to" crashes with this "m2ts"-file. VC-1 stream was incorporated from WMV-file. |
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